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Post by ruralres66 on Jul 11, 2020 11:44:42 GMT
"Despite RS saying that if you edit your RYI, the original place will be retained in the queue, their new display does not seem to have been informed......it shows the NEW queue number post edit, NOT the original queue number ( and position).... ??"
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Hi ruralres66, thank you for your message. When you edit an release request it is automatically given a new reference number but it should also automatically retain the original request's position in the queue for that market. If you would like us to confirm whether the amended request has remained in its original position in the queue, please contact us at invest@ratesetter.com
or 020 3142 6226 - open weekdays 8am to 6pm, and we can take you through our security checks and look into your account. Thank you."
Still suggest the edit has placed RYI further out from original queue position according to the number of RYI now before mine.
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Post by ceejay on Jul 11, 2020 12:28:58 GMT
Dashboard on ratesetter includes position in queue I however do not understand the green "progress bar" Lots of chat in this thread: p2pindependentforum.com/thread/17357/discussion-on-ryi-requests-tracking?page=14 It seems to be showing the percentage of RYIs (probably by count, not value) satisfied since you joined the queue. Who knows, when it reaches 100% perhaps the lights will flash, bells will sound and a pile of coins will appear under your computer monitor?
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Post by aju on Jul 11, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
I guess the way to prove it is make a slight change and see if the green marker gets bigger... I think that's right.
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Post by abrown on Jul 11, 2020 15:20:06 GMT
How did you get the 92.2% figure? From the html. Right click on the bar and select 'inspect', you'll see the % figure in the style for the div: style="--progress-width: 92.29%;"
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Post by james91 on Jul 11, 2020 17:11:19 GMT
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Post by aju on Jul 11, 2020 22:22:58 GMT
How did you get the 92.2% figure? From the html. Right click on the bar and select 'inspect', you'll see the % figure in the style for the div: style="--progress-width: 92.29%;" Thanks, it's a shame that RS could not have provided that as part of the text rather than the progress pointer size.
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Post by aju on Jul 12, 2020 10:37:01 GMT
Dashboard on ratesetter includes position in queue I however do not understand the green "progress bar" Lots of chat in this thread: p2pindependentforum.com/thread/17357/discussion-on-ryi-requests-tracking?page=14 It seems to be showing the percentage of RYIs (probably by count, not value) satisfied since you joined the queue. Who knows, when it reaches 100% perhaps the lights will flash, bells will sound and a pile of coins will appear under your computer monitor? Not sure I need a ton of coins under my desk Mrs Aju would be wondering why I haven't banked it or worse she would have scooped them all up and put them in her Mary Poppins handbag whilst I was partaking of my afternoon snooze.
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Post by jane on Jul 12, 2020 12:07:06 GMT
"Despite RS saying that if you edit your RYI, the original place will be retained in the queue, their new display does not seem to have been informed......it shows the NEW queue number post edit, NOT the original queue number ( and position)....??"
"RateSetter
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Hi ruralres66, thank you for your message. When you edit an release request it is automatically given a new reference number but it should also automatically retain the original request's position in the queue for that market. If you would like us to confirm whether the amended request has remained in its original position in the queue, please contact us at invest@ratesetter.com
or 020 3142 6226 - open weekdays 8am to 6pm, and we can take you through our security checks and look into your account. Thank you."
Still suggest the edit has placed RYI further out from original queue position according to the number of RYI now before mine.
When Ratesetter are using phrases should as 'it should [work]', and then saying they will have to double check to make sure, you can be sure they have not got a clue whether it works or not. I think the Ratesetter platform has become so complicated that not even the dev team really understand it anymore.
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Post by aju on Jul 12, 2020 13:29:18 GMT
"Despite RS saying that if you edit your RYI, the original place will be retained in the queue, their new display does not seem to have been informed......it shows the NEW queue number post edit, NOT the original queue number ( and position)....??"
"RateSetter
Representative of RateSetter
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18 hours ago
Hi ruralres66, thank you for your message. When you edit an release request it is automatically given a new reference number but it should also automatically retain the original request's position in the queue for that market. If you would like us to confirm whether the amended request has remained in its original position in the queue, please contact us at invest@ratesetter.com
or 020 3142 6226 - open weekdays 8am to 6pm, and we can take you through our security checks and look into your account. Thank you."
Still suggest the edit has placed RYI further out from original queue position according to the number of RYI now before mine.
When Ratesetter are using phrases should as 'it should [work]', and then saying they will have to double check to make sure, you can be sure they have not got a clue whether it works or not. I think the Ratesetter platform has become so complicated that not even the dev team really understand it anymore. Sadly its not actually that complicated but as you say they make it hard for themselves by not managing change control correctly. Clearly the daily standups are taking precedence over well thought out testing procedures that should be finding this stuff very quickly. In an ideal world most of this stuff should be predictable when the change designs are walked through but I'm guessing these are falling by the wayside and designs are not even anywhere near the final deliveries let alone any notion of testing it works correctly.
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Post by aju on Jul 12, 2020 13:56:16 GMT
So I've just noticed that my RYI request values are now way above my actual amounts left in the queues (I'm not lending so I am removing returned funds accordingly)
So I tried to adjust my value again and it seems I cannot change the values to lower them anymore is that correct - i've not seen anywhere that I can only edit them once so if anyone knows if I should be able to change the values more than once to reduce the RYI. I don't want to clean out the 1Y and 5Y accounts if possible and I don't want to cancel them and start again.
edit: So I just changed another account (non ISA) that I clearly had not changed earlier and it seemed to accept it ok so not a browser issue. Yet going back to the previously changed items I now seem to get an error message stating "Cancellation request has failed, please try again". So I'm guessing the only thing that can be changed once its changed already is to cancel the RYI altogether.
Oh well I guess I'll lose the 1Y and the 5Y unless I cancel and restart my RYI again - that's not going to happen so at some point I will be out of RS altogether and if I wanted to come back I will only have access to the 3 new ones. Probably will prevent me bothering again unless the rates are more favourable down the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 14:33:48 GMT
So I've just noticed that my RYI request values are now way above my actual amounts left in the queues (I'm not lending so I am removing returned funds accordingly) So I tried to adjust my value again and it seems I cannot change the values to lower them anymore is that correct - i've not seen anywhere that I can only edit them once so if anyone knows if I should be able to change the values more than once to reduce the RYI. I don't want to clean out the 1Y and 5Y accounts if possible and I don't want to cancel them and start again. edit: So I just changed another account (non ISA) that I clearly had not changed earlier and it seemed to accept it ok so not a browser issue. Yet going back to the previously changed items I now seem to get an error message stating "Cancellation request has failed, please try again". So I'm guessing the only thing that can be changed once its changed already is to cancel the RYI altogether.
Oh well I guess I'll lose the 1Y and the 5Y unless I cancel and restart my RYI again - that's not going to happen so at some point I will be out of RS altogether and if I wanted to come back I will only have access to the 3 new ones. Probably will prevent me bothering again unless the rates are more favourable down the line.You could try adding a £10 offer at a high rate in the market you want to retain. I think an offer or a loan retains the market. My only caveat would be whether this could upset your current RYI, which obviously you wouldn't want to do. Others may have experiences of that?
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Post by aju on Jul 12, 2020 15:39:22 GMT
So I've just noticed that my RYI request values are now way above my actual amounts left in the queues (I'm not lending so I am removing returned funds accordingly) So I tried to adjust my value again and it seems I cannot change the values to lower them anymore is that correct - i've not seen anywhere that I can only edit them once so if anyone knows if I should be able to change the values more than once to reduce the RYI. I don't want to clean out the 1Y and 5Y accounts if possible and I don't want to cancel them and start again. edit: So I just changed another account (non ISA) that I clearly had not changed earlier and it seemed to accept it ok so not a browser issue. Yet going back to the previously changed items I now seem to get an error message stating "Cancellation request has failed, please try again". So I'm guessing the only thing that can be changed once its changed already is to cancel the RYI altogether.
Oh well I guess I'll lose the 1Y and the 5Y unless I cancel and restart my RYI again - that's not going to happen so at some point I will be out of RS altogether and if I wanted to come back I will only have access to the 3 new ones. Probably will prevent me bothering again unless the rates are more favourable down the line.You could try adding a £10 offer at a high rate in the market you want to retain. I think an offer or a loan retains the market. My only caveat would be whether this could upset your current RYI, which obviously you wouldn't want to do. Others may have experiences of that? That's an interesting thought, I see what you mean though about screwing my current RYI's. I am happy to leave it for the moment and see what returns i get from normal churn. I'm not that bothered. I might try an access reduction to see what happens. Which reminds me I must go and document the changes I did make so I don;t lose track of what I am doing.
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Post by robski on Jul 12, 2020 16:42:02 GMT
Do a few for £10 now and by the time your release comes round they shouldnt be released as they will be below £10
BY doing afew I mean just do them at whar rate you can get, its hardly going to make much difference on a tenner either way
Thats assuming you dont have any below £10 right now
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Post by aju on Jul 12, 2020 16:47:16 GMT
Now why didn't I think of that Mrs Aju already has one for 4.93 @ 6% in 5 year that has some 40+ payments left ... Mind you it being @ 6% means its a bit vulnerable to being closed all of a sudden. I'll wait till I get some more funds in over next few days and post them out at £10 should be interesting. Thanks robski, great idea |
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Post by aju on Jul 21, 2020 10:27:10 GMT
Copied answer to here as other thread is not meant for commentsTrouble with the daily amount is that it doesn't detail which market the money is being released from. They could release £10 million but if only £10 of that is being released into the Access market then it's not much help for those of us waiting in the Access queue. It looks like to me there is no Chronological order for Access - you can see from the table that users with 5 year and 1 Year accounts are being completed after the dates that users have requested for Access. Perhaps I missed the memo where it said the order would be 1) 5 year & 1 year (any date of request for withdraw) 2) Access In nearly a week my queue number has dropped down by just 6 despite an email from RS Friday saying they had delivered 2.4 million. Dates for access withdraws are still around 13th March.. As you say and according to RS reported yesterday, Close of play, they are still working on 13th March. Have you reported your position and queue number into this table. Whilst you are in Access there is not much correlation between the new products and the 1Y&5Y. As others have noticed the weekly numbers have dropped quite a bit over the last couple of weeks or so. The other thing is that whilst your QIF number maybe favourable, hey you are way ahead of ours, the thing that is missing is the sheer amount of money in the new products will potentially much higher. Just because the numbers seem to indicate that the 1Y and 5Y loans get more what you must realise that they are different products. The 1Y potentially has much more large loans as its inherently different type of loans. If a large loan clears all of a sudden it could have quite a large number of people who are affected and it will be able to pay off a larger set perhaps. This aspect is not really a factor in the sales issue but it can move the number of lenders in the queue positions. It has long been muted that a lot of the changes week on week are about closed loans and people stopping their sales rather than the movement days wise. Finally whilst you are in a much better position that many of us that missed the withdrawal WALL (We are somewhere near the back for our sins) I assume you have lending set to off in old products or in the new products at least have the relend set to the highest possible level and are withdrawing money that way. If not I'd recommend you start. It may take a while to even get your position and it might be tomorrow even with all the charts we have on here no one knows and to be honest I'm not convinced RS does but either way this may take time.
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