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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Jul 24, 2020 9:26:57 GMT
I got a match in the 1 year market (for a full 12 months) on 16th July. Yeah me too around the 13th too. I was being stupid in thinking I could lend £10 and it will reduce down in a month and stay for a while, forgetting of course that's not the way the 1Y works. I have since set up £10 loans in "on the market" at the highest rate with fingers crossed it won't lend at least until my sales go through then I can leave it there for some time down the road when things have improved if they have at all of course. Why not simply set your reinvestment to the same market (same logic with 5 year), at the highest rate then there is no need to leave un-invested funds.
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Post by aju on Jul 24, 2020 9:42:56 GMT
Yeah me too around the 13th too. I was being stupid in thinking I could lend £10 and it will reduce down in a month and stay for a while, forgetting of course that's not the way the 1Y works. I have since set up £10 loans in "on the market" at the highest rate with fingers crossed it won't lend at least until my sales go through then I can leave it there for some time down the road when things have improved if they have at all of course. Why not simply set your reinvestment to the same market (same logic with 5 year), at the highest rate then there is no need to leave un-invested funds. Derrr!, I am the village idiot not you, that's a great idea I'll stop the ones I set yesterday and change my relend options on the 1Y/5Y. I'll need to be careful not to make changes that switch it off though perhaps to recover funds - I can;t remember at the moment what the options are and considering that area of the code was always a bit iffy whether it changed or not. I don't want to leave too much in there. Great idea thx... I'm not sure what I will do when I am all pulled out, P2P is such fun and profitable to boot, lets hope its still around when the crisis both pandemic and financial has gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 9:56:31 GMT
Isn't the problem with that approach that when your RYI completes, it just gets put in the holding account and you're left with no offers and no loans so will lose that market? I may have misunderstood though.
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Post by aju on Jul 24, 2020 10:10:26 GMT
Isn't the problem with that approach that when your RYI completes, it just gets put in the holding account and you're left with no offers and no loans so will lose that market? I may have misunderstood though. Yes for the sales items but what I am doing is leaving the £10's in the relevant markets until there is some money in the relend slot. I'll check to see if I can reduce/change the relent offer - it will be a different item I think - once I know I can do that then i'll just remove the £10 offers (assuming they have not lent @10%!. Then if I just change the relend returns to leave £10 behind it should stay there. I think I haven't as yet tried it - perhaps I need to change the £10 offer to 9.9% so they are not the same offer. Its a great idea and if it works then its even better. I think I have enough headroom to see what happens. I'lll report back when I've proved it one way or another.
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Post by slippery on Jul 24, 2020 16:57:09 GMT
" more likely don't really want users having the old products longer than necessary" - sadly, it seems so. Thanks for clarifying the situation aju. I was locked out of 1 year due to an early repayment last year, and although certainly not missing it at the moment I was quite annoyed at the time. Agree with herringbone's comments further back " My thought is that RS wanted to encourage the hands-off investor, and adopted a policy of trying to discourage ratesetting. After Covid, when people know there's a genuine possibility of liquidity problems, it's hard to see people investing in the Access/Plus/Max model, with no alternative available."If we were still with the old RS system then of course there might have been a jam of "Rolling" repayment requests but presumably not the current chaos of Access investors locked in for who knows how long @1.5%. I have RYId some of my 5 year as I have concerns about RS survival so wanted to reduce my exposure given the lower rates. Certainly not complaining but it is weird that I have been able to cash in some of my 5 year investments which had over 30 months left to run, while earlier Access requests are still not settled. It makes a change to have a few posts wishing we could have the fun of the original RS products & rate fluctuations again, instead of just seeing how long folk are having to wait until they can escape from P2P lending Think we have rather hijacked this thread .....
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Post by aju on Jul 27, 2020 17:00:58 GMT
Isn't the problem with that approach that when your RYI completes, it just gets put in the holding account and you're left with no offers and no loans so will lose that market? I may have misunderstood though. Yes for the sales items but what I am doing is leaving the £10's in the relevant markets until there is some money in the relend slot. I'll check to see if I can reduce/change the relent offer - it will be a different item I think - once I know I can do that then i'll just remove the £10 offers (assuming they have not lent @10%!. Then if I just change the relend returns to leave £10 behind it should stay there. I think I haven't as yet tried it - perhaps I need to change the £10 offer to 9.9% so they are not the same offer. Its a great idea and if it works then its even better. I think I have enough headroom to see what happens. I'll report back when I've proved it one way or another. Okay so leaving 5Y and 1Y with existing "on the market" items works for new releases into relend ok and at 10% as a different item to the one there also at 10% so I could actually leave it there or remove each one individually but the main problem is I cannot edit the item and push some back to holding and leave it alone. RS only allows one to cancel or change the rate not to change the amount. So i'll remove the most recent £56 and leave my £10 loan on offer at 10% and hope it does not get lent out. In the future if the £10 gets lent before the sale goes through then i'll just add another £10 at 10%. Mind you if the £10 on the 5Y gets lent there is a good chance it will have reduced below £10 and then perhaps RS will not sell it anyway (Usually RS does not allow sales of loans <£10).
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Post by one21 on Jul 27, 2020 18:35:04 GMT
Surely RS Access T&Cs could be challenged as unfair if they do not provide a facility to remove repaid funds to the holding account, apart from increasing the lender rate to the now max 8% ? Technically if they decided to significantly reduce this 8% the whole of Lenders funds could be tied up until their RYI are are repaid!
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Post by aju on Jul 27, 2020 23:06:07 GMT
Surely RS Access T&Cs could be challenged as unfair if they do not provide a facility to remove repaid funds to the holding account, apart from increasing the lender rate to the now max 8% ? Technically if they decided to significantly reduce this 8% the whole of Lenders funds could be tied up until their RYI are are repaid! I think that was the point back last year when it was changed. Even @ 8% access would probably find it difficult to lend out. Sadly most of the Access offering has loans that last for 5 years so to be fair most will not be ending unless the borrowers pays off the loan. So far I have had funds released in the Access though the loan closing and have managed to remove from the on market to holding before it gets lent out. Other than that I haven;t read the terms lately but I'm pretty sure RS terms were pretty clear when I read them a while back and to be honest there is enough through flow of people on here who perhaps should have known better before completing the relevant forms to show they understood the investments etc. Once RYI is all cleared out then it will be very easy to withdraw funds from access its just that there are not enough toilet rolls to go round at the moment. Edit: If the rates change to be even lower then they may see fit to do such a thing as reduce the Max rates further. I think that at one time it was suggested that the max rates were 5% above the normal rates but I may be thinking of another service ... The other interesting thing is that RS changes the way things work quite a bit since as far as I know there is no real manual for how it all works. That said and quite apart from there failings over the years RS and Zopa are the more reputable P"P sites on the market, of course many will disagree with that notion.
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Post by aju on Aug 12, 2020 13:19:37 GMT
So now that some of our accounts sales (Sadly not Access!) are getting closer to the front of the queue has there been any discussion on what happens. I'm guessing that online screens show a change from queing but does ne get any notification of
A. Pending sale starting
B when it starts lending
C.When it finishes.
D all three.
I'm guessing when it hits the front unless it's a lot of money it might take a couple hours/days perhaps. Depending on how much is selling at anyone time and also the matching of loans I have to buyers (relending lenders) at the time etc.
Just curious my 5Y ISA queue says I have 8 in front as of this morning but there could be 1M in one of those items or 1k in all 8 its not possible with our charts to see this.
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Post by aju on Aug 12, 2020 13:37:31 GMT
So now that some of our accounts sales (Sadly not Access!) are getting closer to the front of the queue has there been any discussion on what happens. I'm guessing that online screens show a change from queing but does ne get any notification of A. Pending sale starting B when it starts lending C.When it finishes. D all three. I'm guessing when it hits the front unless it's a lot of money it might take a couple hours/days perhaps. Depending on how much is selling at anyone time and also the matching of loans I have to buyers (relending lenders) at the time etc. Just curious my 5Y ISA queue says I have 8 in front as of this morning but there could be 1M in one of those items or 1k in all 8 its not possible with our charts to see this. Okay so stet that request, just checked email after writing that and it's already sold. I got one email to say so, only when it finished but I suspect it was so small it just was instant. What is interesting though it wasn't able to sell a loan less than £10 but I'm loathed to remove my £10 10% punter that helps maintain the access to the 5 old tools that a lot of new lenders can't see. what happens to the <£10 does it just stay there until they repay the loan, I guess so. Still 3 more 5Y accounts to go though should be soon for them as they were only a day behind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 14:06:22 GMT
So now that some of our accounts sales (Sadly not Access!) are getting closer to the front of the queue has there been any discussion on what happens. I'm guessing that online screens show a change from queing but does ne get any notification of A. Pending sale starting B when it starts lending C.When it finishes. D all three. I'm guessing when it hits the front unless it's a lot of money it might take a couple hours/days perhaps. Depending on how much is selling at anyone time and also the matching of loans I have to buyers (relending lenders) at the time etc. Just curious my 5Y ISA queue says I have 8 in front as of this morning but there could be 1M in one of those items or 1k in all 8 its not possible with our charts to see this. The "Queueing" will change to "Processing" when you've reached the front of the queue and your loans are, err, processing. I think it changes colour too! You'll get an email when processing is complete, or partially complete if it doesn't complete that day.
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Post by aju on Aug 12, 2020 14:11:03 GMT
Thanks I missed the email and it was all done by the time I got to it.
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Post by aju on Aug 12, 2020 15:16:42 GMT
Thanks I missed the email and it was all done by the time I got to it. I've only just got my act together with the last sale and I've had another for my Everyday 5Y and Mrs Aju has had her two returned as well, it seems I can't keep up with RS let alone the forum threads. star dust perhaps will be busy soon with others too.
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Post by moongrazer on Aug 20, 2020 6:12:27 GMT
Is it typical for loans in the 1 Year market to repay a month early? I've noticed that 3 different loans that were due to finish on separate dates in September have all been repaid exactly a month early (give or take a day). Seems strange, almost suspicion raising - like RateSetter are closing out loans a little early to get more funds released?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 7:44:40 GMT
Is it typical for loans in the 1 Year market to repay a month early? I've noticed that 3 different loans that were due to finish on separate dates in September have all been repaid exactly a month early (give or take a day). Seems strange, almost suspicion raising - like RateSetter are closing out loans a little early to get more funds released? My 1 year loans have always repaid early - usually a few weeks or so. They are generally property development loans so the borrower repays on sale or needs to refinance and they will do that before the due date.
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