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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 13:57:16 GMT
Dare I suggest that walking away from this might be the best approach perhaps! Why would I walk away when people have been abusing me all day? I'll walk away when chris1200 apologises. I'm not sure they will or to be honest should to be fair but hey i'll leave you all to it. I would though perhaps suggest you all start a new thread to carry on as it's becoming boring from my perspective and somewhat irrelevant to the subject of this thread. Over to you Ton ⓉⓞⓃ.
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 14:02:10 GMT
Dare I suggest that walking away from this might be the best approach perhaps! Why would I walk away when people have been abusing me all day? I'll walk away when chris1200 apologises. I don't want to go through this nonsense again, or clog up this thread, so will say this finally and then genuinely not converse with you again: In May you stated in a post that you had no financial position with RS to try to support the fact that you had no emotion driving the accusations you were making against RS. Two days later, you stated that you did have a financial position and it was so big that you would have to take out a loan as you couldn't access the money. So you lied in at least one of these posts. When I gently called you out on this inconsistency, you added a 'female' sign to your profile and accused me of sexism. It is you who owes me and this whole forum and apology, otherwise I don't see why anyone would believe a word you say on here. Sorry to everyone that is having to read all this rubbish.
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 14:13:43 GMT
I'm not sure they will or to be honest should to be fair but hey i'll leave you all to it. I would though perhaps suggest you all start a new thread to carry on as it's becoming boring from my perspective and somewhat irrelevant to the subject of this thread. Over to you Ton ⓉⓞⓃ . So boring for you that you still feel the need to reply and comment heh... anyway I'm out of here Are you like real, you are now really showing me just what chris1200 is trying to show and you are becoming somewhat of a vindictive and exacerbating individual. Please Ton ⓉⓞⓃ , and others in control of these forums put a stop to this. for the first time ever since I joined this platform and others some years back now I am taking the opportunity to block @freddie123 as I don't think this individual is anything other than accusing others of being abusive when it is them that are acting in this unnecessary way.
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 14:28:42 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh  |
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 14:36:30 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh Mine are so high I hadn't thought of checking that, I'm on RS most days at least once so I'll try and track a change but I may not be able to establish whether it was over night. Its a shame that unlike Zopa, RS does not indicate the time of day for any of its actions that are in the statements (transaction History) mind you they may have changed this since I last looked but my monthly load into my spreadsheets to track things like interest etc does not seem to have started including times as far as I remember. As you say it would be helpful to be able to see that to know when it tracks through. All that said I'm not sure I'm your best best in seeing any of our numbers change anytime soon.
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Post by bt on Jul 13, 2020 14:38:50 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh I got a generic email from Ratesetter on Friday which stated "The queue position is shown for your request in the relevant market (i.e. Access, Plus and Max; the 1 Year market; and the 5 Year market) and will be updated automatically every working day", which I took to mean once a day. Mine's not changed all day.
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 14:39:39 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh Mine are so high I hadn't thought of checking that, I'm on RS most days at least once so I'll try and track a change but I may not be able to establish whether it was over night. Its a shame that unlike Zopa, RS does not indicate the time of day for any of its actions that are in the statements (transaction History) mind you they may have changed this since I last looked but my monthly load into my spreadsheets to track things like interest etc does not seem to have started including times as far as I remember. As you say it would be helpful to be able to see that to know when it tracks through. All that said I'm not sure I'm your best best in seeing any of our numbers change anytime soon. Worry not! All it will take will be one of us noticing a drop during the day. If none of us do, I think we can assume it's an overnight update kinda thing. Edit: Crossed with bt's post above
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 14:40:51 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh I got a generic email from Ratesetter on Friday which stated "The queue position is shown for your request in the relevant market (i.e. Access, Plus and Max; the 1 Year market; and the 5 Year market) and will be updated automatically every working day", which I took to mean once a day. Mine's not changed all day. Good spot! I missed that in the email - thanks! I'd interpret it in the same way. Looks like a once daily update at some point overnight.
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 14:42:54 GMT
Mine are so high I hadn't thought of checking that, I'm on RS most days at least once so I'll try and track a change but I may not be able to establish whether it was over night. Its a shame that unlike Zopa, RS does not indicate the time of day for any of its actions that are in the statements (transaction History) mind you they may have changed this since I last looked but my monthly load into my spreadsheets to track things like interest etc does not seem to have started including times as far as I remember. As you say it would be helpful to be able to see that to know when it tracks through. All that said I'm not sure I'm your best best in seeing any of our numbers change anytime soon. Worry not! All it will take will be one of us noticing a drop during the day. If none of us do, I think we can assume it's an overnight update kinda thing. Be interesting to know though as you say. Just out of interest was the other thread you were referring the "RateSetter RYI Requests Tracked - Updated Regularly" by chance.
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Post by iRobot on Jul 13, 2020 14:44:03 GMT
Getting back on topic... I and others had been posting about this in another thread, but now that this one is here, it's probably the best location: If anyone sees their queue position number go down during the day, could you let us know? So far I've only noticed it go down at some point overnight (perhaps at midnight?), but it would be great to confirm this with others' experiences. Then my brain can stop telling me to keep going on the RS website to refresh I got a generic email from Ratesetter on Friday which stated "The queue position is shown for your request in the relevant market (i.e. Access, Plus and Max; the 1 Year market; and the 5 Year market) and will be updated automatically every working day", which I took to mean once a day. Mine's not changed all day. Not at all familiar with the inner-workings of RS, but the inclusion of " every working day" surprises me and seems at odds with " automatically" ..... are some requests (like cancellations, perhaps) handled manually by RS staffers?
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 14:46:05 GMT
I got a generic email from Ratesetter on Friday which stated "The queue position is shown for your request in the relevant market (i.e. Access, Plus and Max; the 1 Year market; and the 5 Year market) and will be updated automatically every working day", which I took to mean once a day. Mine's not changed all day. Not at all familiar with the inner-workings of RS, but the inclusion of " every working day" surprises me and seems at odds with " automatically" ..... are some requests (like cancellations, perhaps) handled manually by RS staffers? My guess is: the RYI processing is manual and only happens on working days (I think we already knew this part); but the queue position update happens automatically once per day. So, in theory, you shouldn't see any updates at the weekend because no RYI releases will have been processed (even though an automatic update still happens the number should be the same). But mine did go down by 1 overnight last night, so I guess where cancellations happen, we might still see queue position 'updates' at the weekend? But just my guesses...
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 14:57:24 GMT
Not at all familiar with the inner-workings of RS, but the inclusion of " every working day" surprises me and seems at odds with " automatically" ..... are some requests (like cancellations, perhaps) handled manually by RS staffers? My guess is: the RYI processing is manual and only happens on working days (I think we already knew this part); but the queue position update happens automatically once per day. So, in theory, you shouldn't see any updates at the weekend because no RYI releases will have been processed (even though an automatic update still happens the number should be the same). But mine did go down by 1 overnight last night, so I guess where cancellations happen, we might still see queue position 'updates' at the weekend? But just my guesses... It could be that they are set to work on working days and they ran early this morning - assuming you meant overnight last night of course. On Zopa it's much easier to see the day/time drifts on all their financial changes runs as their statements data has time stamps with the date stamps. Shame that RS don't do this too. On Zopa too they tend to be only on working days but again they do drift quite a bit on some occasions and they fail quite a bit too.(Tracking failures can be quite a financially lucrative area but don't tell anyone I said so  ). If things go wrong at all they need to recover/stop processes and get things fixed as soon as possible hence the working day stuff, usually. Mind you with all this home stuff and the fact that they will have on call staff to nip into the processes and help them along - I would have thought.
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Post by robski on Jul 13, 2020 15:25:55 GMT
Not at all familiar with the inner-workings of RS, but the inclusion of " every working day" surprises me and seems at odds with " automatically" ..... are some requests (like cancellations, perhaps) handled manually by RS staffers? My guess is: the RYI processing is manual and only happens on working days (I think we already knew this part); but the queue position update happens automatically once per day. So, in theory, you shouldn't see any updates at the weekend because no RYI releases will have been processed (even though an automatic update still happens the number should be the same). But mine did go down by 1 overnight last night, so I guess where cancellations happen, we might still see queue position 'updates' at the weekend? But just my guesses... RYIs being manual was always my understanding, I am sure RS have told us this before Which is why I believe we see the odd wierd thing, human error kicking in Plus its another reason why I think the multiple OMGZ!!!111! RS you should release more moniez type posts annoy me, there is only so many staff available to do this each day Its possible they automated it more, actually now i thik its the logic behind the <£10 not being released, too insignificant, but someone must still be mashing some keys to make it happen
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 16:19:49 GMT
My guess is: the RYI processing is manual and only happens on working days (I think we already knew this part); but the queue position update happens automatically once per day. So, in theory, you shouldn't see any updates at the weekend because no RYI releases will have been processed (even though an automatic update still happens the number should be the same). But mine did go down by 1 overnight last night, so I guess where cancellations happen, we might still see queue position 'updates' at the weekend? But just my guesses... RYIs being manual was always my understanding, I am sure RS have told us this before Which is why I believe we see the odd wierd thing, human error kicking in Plus its another reason why I think the multiple OMGZ!!!111! RS you should release more moniez type posts annoy me, there is only so many staff available to do this each day Its possible they automated it more, actually now i thik its the logic behind the <£10 not being released, too insignificant, but someone must still be mashing some keys to make it happen Definitely agreed on the manual nature of the RYI processing thing; it's the update of our queue position in our accounts that I suspect is automated to happen once daily based on the underlying data  - and yes aju , I guess we'll find out about the weekend thing. All I know so far is that it went down between Friday and Saturday and between Sunday and Monday, and one of those overnights should not count as a 'working day'. But we shall see!
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 16:57:18 GMT
RYIs being manual was always my understanding, I am sure RS have told us this before Which is why I believe we see the odd wierd thing, human error kicking in Plus its another reason why I think the multiple OMGZ!!!111! RS you should release more moniez type posts annoy me, there is only so many staff available to do this each day Its possible they automated it more, actually now i thik its the logic behind the <£10 not being released, too insignificant, but someone must still be mashing some keys to make it happen Definitely agreed on the manual nature of the RYI processing thing; it's the update of our queue position in our accounts that I suspect is automated to happen once daily based on the underlying data - and yes aju , I guess we'll find out about the weekend thing. All I know so far is that it went down between Friday and Saturday and between Sunday and Monday, and one of those overnights should not count as a 'working day'. But we shall see! I still think it maybe a server trigger thingy, unix scripts etc, the proper name for them escapes me at the moment - It's an age thing is my excuse - but they are usually timed to run by date/hour/min etc and would always have dependency checks in them that might have required waiting for preceding processes to finish. They could start anytime the systems required it but as you say many critical ones might be held back to when onsite staff would be available. In my day we used to have hundreds of these thinks running daily, weekly, monthly and even some running hourly or worse every few minutes. I'm not a banking person but I'm sure you guys also know this stuff or similar. We had people on call when staff were not on site and depending on the severity of the failures and there were many they might even have to go onto site immediately - mostly though it just required them to figure out the issue and the relevance and whether it needed to just be poked a little to get it over a hump or parked until the day staff arrived. Zopa can get out of sync quite a bit but as I said its easier to track, some weeks I know exactly when funds might arrive in my account/s other when they have issues can slip by quite a few hours but most of the time I am asleep and not keeping track hourly. I do know when something has gone wrong though just by the missed runs when they are expected. At moment the Zopa runs for both our accounts are in the wee small hours of the morning and not always in the week when they are delayed. End of the month is always interesting too especially when payments are due in the short months relative to the long months.
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