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Post by chris1200 on Jul 13, 2020 17:03:10 GMT
Definitely agreed on the manual nature of the RYI processing thing; it's the update of our queue position in our accounts that I suspect is automated to happen once daily based on the underlying data  - and yes aju , I guess we'll find out about the weekend thing. All I know so far is that it went down between Friday and Saturday and between Sunday and Monday, and one of those overnights should not count as a 'working day'. But we shall see! I still think it maybe a server trigger thingy, unix scripts etc, the proper name for them escapes me at the moment - It's an age thing is my excuse - but they are usually timed to run by date/hour/min etc and would always have dependency checks in them that might have required waiting for preceding processes to finish. They could start anytime the systems required it but as you say many critical ones might be held back to when onsite staff would be available. In my day we used to have hundreds of these thinks running daily, weekly, monthly and even some running hourly or worse every few minutes. I'm not a banking person but I'm sure you guys also know this stuff or similar. We had people on call when staff were not on site and depending on the severity of the failures and there were many they might even have to go onto site immediately - mostly though it just required them to figure out the issue and the relevance and whether it needed to just be poked a little to get it over a hump or parked until the day staff arrived. Are you talking here about the RYI request processing or the queue position updates?
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 17:06:14 GMT
No i'm just guessing how they might be running things. Who knows unless they say. I would be surprised though it was a manual thing except that RS has to obviously know how much it wants to put into the RYI as they are drip feeding that. In reality that decision maybe manual (the amount to offer the system) but when it runs could be automated. It could close down immediately it knows there are no more funds.
The thing is they could run their dailies and see whats left after the lending/relending has finished, they would know then what spare cash there maybe available for RYI's.
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Post by jonathan24 on Jul 13, 2020 17:18:59 GMT
Why the personal attack? I shouldn't have to do this, maybe it will satisfy your curiosity - my gender and RS position is clearly visible here ibb.co/RB3fRMVIf we're using Ratesetter to give away our gender and position, I better do the same:  That's definitely a bigly investment you have there...Covfefe.
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Post by r00lish67 on Jul 13, 2020 17:38:10 GMT
Definitely agreed on the manual nature of the RYI processing thing; it's the update of our queue position in our accounts that I suspect is automated to happen once daily based on the underlying data - and yes aju , I guess we'll find out about the weekend thing. All I know so far is that it went down between Friday and Saturday and between Sunday and Monday, and one of those overnights should not count as a 'working day'. But we shall see! I still think it maybe a server trigger thingy, unix scripts etc, the proper name for them escapes me at the moment - It's an age thing is my excuse - but they are usually timed to run by date/hour/min etc and would always have dependency checks in them that might have required waiting for preceding processes to finish. They could start anytime the systems required it but as you say many critical ones might be held back to when onsite staff would be available. In my day we used to have hundreds of these thinks running daily, weekly, monthly and even some running hourly or worse every few minutes. <snip> Cron jobs?
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Post by aju on Jul 13, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
I still think it maybe a server trigger thingy, unix scripts etc, the proper name for them escapes me at the moment - It's an age thing is my excuse - but they are usually timed to run by date/hour/min etc and would always have dependency checks in them that might have required waiting for preceding processes to finish. They could start anytime the systems required it but as you say many critical ones might be held back to when onsite staff would be available. In my day we used to have hundreds of these thinks running daily, weekly, monthly and even some running hourly or worse every few minutes. <snip> Cron jobs? Nice One, thx r00lish67, its been a while sadly... that's the one for the UNIX Machines. They had different names again on Vax machines and definitely on the mainframes we had ... but Cron was the one I was fumbling so badly for. 
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Post by jono75 on Jul 13, 2020 19:20:52 GMT
Nice One, thx r00lish67, its been a while sadly... that's the one for the UNIX Machines. They had different names again on Vax machines and definitely on the mainframes we had ... but Cron was the one I was fumbling so badly for. Vax, that takes me back to my first job, I miss DEC. Cron jobs take me to my current job, all Linux now. No, I don't work for Ratesetter IT.
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Post by jane on Jul 13, 2020 20:01:02 GMT
Nice One, thx r00lish67 , its been a while sadly... that's the one for the UNIX Machines. They had different names again on Vax machines and definitely on the mainframes we had ... but Cron was the one I was fumbling so badly for. Vax, that takes me back to my first job, I miss DEC. Cron jobs take me to my current job, all Linux now. No, I don't work for Ratesetter IT. Vax, that takes me back to my first vacuum cleaner.
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 14, 2020 7:30:14 GMT
Can confirm that my queue position number went down some time between 1am and 2am. So this does indeed seem to be a once per day automatic update overnight (likely reflecting the more manual RYI processing as well as any cancellations that have happened during the day).
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Post by bt on Jul 14, 2020 8:20:40 GMT
Can confirm that my queue position number went down some time between 1am and 2am. So this does indeed seem to be a once per day automatic update overnight (likely reflecting the more manual RYI processing as well as any cancellations that have happened during the day). How much by? Both mine went down by 6119-6098=21 6114-6093=21 (edit: both in Access)
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Post by chris1200 on Jul 14, 2020 8:25:43 GMT
Can confirm that my queue position number went down some time between 1am and 2am. So this does indeed seem to be a once per day automatic update overnight (likely reflecting the more manual RYI processing as well as any cancellations that have happened during the day). How much by? Both mine went down by 6119-6098=21 6114-6093=21 Went down by 20 (291 -> 271). So I guess there was only one cancellation between us. (This is Access)
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Post by aju on Jul 14, 2020 8:40:42 GMT
Okay, so my ISA numbers since sat afternoon went down as follows Sat 14:42pm Mon 09:36 Amnt
Access 13689 13657 -32
1year 985 984 -1
5year 1074 1002 -72
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Post by abrown on Jul 14, 2020 8:52:43 GMT
Went down by 20 (291 -> 271). So I guess there was only one cancellation between us. (This is Access) My RYI in Plus went from 99 to 79 overnight.
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Post by rl on Jul 14, 2020 8:54:02 GMT
My ISA 5-year queue position went down from 938 on Saturday, to 937 on Sunday, to 865 today (a total drop of 73). All well and good. However, Upperdeane kindly volunteered that he had 195 requests in front of him in 5 year on Friday; he reached the front of the queue yesterday (congrats Upperdeane!), so I would have expected that everyone behind him in the queue would have moved forward by at least 195. Any ideas anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 8:59:25 GMT
My ISA 5-year queue position went down from 938 on Saturday, to 937 on Sunday, to 865 today (a total drop of 73). All well and good. However, Upperdeane kindly volunteered that he had 195 requests in front of him in 5 year on Friday; he reached the front of the queue yesterday (congrats Upperdeane!), so I would have expected that everyone behind him in the queue would have moved forward by at least 195. Any ideas anyone? Not sure, but I think it has to do with the issue of RYIs being processed but not fully completed - see p2pindependentforum.com/post/395170/threadYou can reach the front of the queue but still have requests in front of you - and I know that's an oxymoron, but that's RS not me.
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Post by ceejay on Jul 14, 2020 9:19:16 GMT
My ISA 5-year queue position went down from 938 on Saturday, to 937 on Sunday, to 865 today (a total drop of 73). All well and good. However, Upperdeane kindly volunteered that he had 195 requests in front of him in 5 year on Friday; he reached the front of the queue yesterday (congrats Upperdeane!), so I would have expected that everyone behind him in the queue would have moved forward by at least 195. Any ideas anyone? Not sure, but I think it has to do with the issue of RYIs being processed but not fully completed - see p2pindependentforum.com/post/395170/threadYou can reach the front of the queue but still have requests in front of you - and I know that's an oxymoron, but that's RS not me. More speculation ... but I wonder how RS deal with the fact that the loans being RYI'ed are all at different rates? If they were doing their best to match rates between the two parties to the swap, then it would make sense for the front of the queue not to be one lender but possibly a small pool of lenders. I presume that in the end RS will take the hit or benefit from any mismatch but you could imagine them wanting to minimise that...
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- and yes aju , I guess we'll find out about the weekend thing. All I know so far is that it went down between Friday and Saturday and between Sunday and Monday, and one of those overnights should not count as a 'working day'. But we shall see!
