boundah
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Post by boundah on Sept 14, 2021 12:02:52 GMT
Wouldn't it be nice if Companies House did identity checks, like those we all suffer Come on, that would scare off all the money-launderers Johnson's so keen to attract post-Brexit.
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Post by rooster on Sept 14, 2021 17:14:46 GMT
AS seems very much active in the UK.
He has got numerous appointments listed by Companies House (some active, some not). Gives his country of residence as France. (Potentially Clara, midway between Perpignan and Andorra?) but his business interests are primarily in the UK.........
I note that the defence statement filed 25/11/20 states that AS is/was a Swiss national (second page, para 4). My interpretation would be that this refers to the time period when he was LB's manager i.e. approx September 2010 - September 2011. His nationality as per Companies House documentation is not consistent with this and is given as English or British every time. Certificate of Incorporation for one of the companies, for instance, dated midway through this period on 23/03/11 gives his Nationality as British. Another publicly-available company administration document dated 21/04/09 gives his usual residence as an address in London.
Wouldn't it be nice if Companies House did identity checks, like those we all suffer There wouldn't be any point. They'd screw them up like everything else they touch.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Sept 15, 2021 7:19:18 GMT
I note that the defence statement filed 25/11/20 states that AS is/was a Swiss national (second page, para 4). My interpretation would be that this refers to the time period when he was LB's manager i.e. approx September 2010 - September 2011. His nationality as per Companies House documentation is not consistent with this and is given as English or British every time. Certificate of Incorporation for one of the companies, for instance, dated midway through this period on 23/03/11 gives his Nationality as British. Another publicly-available company administration document dated 21/04/09 gives his usual residence as an address in London.
It is, of course, perfectly possible that he gained Swiss nationality between 2011 and 2020. But gaining Swiss nationality is far from straightforward, and requires primary residence in Switzerland of at least a decade before application. www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home/integration-einbuergerung/schweizer-werden/ordentlich.htmlHe could be a dual national. Switzerland does allow for this. www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home/integration-einbuergerung/schweizer-werden/doppelbuerger.html
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Post by Mousey on Sept 15, 2021 8:16:03 GMT
I note a previous venture of AS has the sic for "Mining of uranium and thorium ores"!
I will also say that at no point has any accusation of wrong doing been made against AS.
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Post by wotnot on Sept 15, 2021 8:44:46 GMT
It is, of course, perfectly possible that he gained Swiss nationality between 2011 and 2020. It is, yes.*
But there were numerous company registrations, before, during and since 2011. The most recent one I am aware of was 06/09/19. And none of them give a nationality other than English or British.
Also agreed that he could have dual nationality. But that is not what was stated in the defence statement.
* Edit: No, actually, it's not. I now see that there are more company registrations up to and beyond the date of the court filings. The most recent one was six weeks ago. I also note that the country of residence for the more recent ones is England rather than France.
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Post by rocky1 on Sept 16, 2021 13:51:51 GMT
does LB and TG have any other source of income whilst assets have been frozen. i am sure they are not struggling to maintain their millionaire lifestyles so where would these funds be coming from now. i would hope their ar*ses are twitching a bit with the chance of criminal charges being brought after this farce is sorted.enjoy it while you can you pair of arragant barstards.
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Post by ilmoro on Sept 16, 2021 14:14:19 GMT
does LB and TG have any other source of income whilst assets have been frozen. i am sure they are not struggling to maintain their millionaire lifestyles so where would these funds be coming from now. i would hope their ar*ses are twitching a bit with the chance of criminal charges being brought after this farce is sorted.enjoy it while you can you pair of arragant barstards. Freezing orders allow their subjects a reasonable sum for living expenses so they wont be destitute ... plus they will have the income from their other halves who are not subject ot the case or order
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Post by 11025 on Sept 16, 2021 15:54:37 GMT
does LB and TG have any other source of income whilst assets have been frozen. i am sure they are not struggling to maintain their millionaire lifestyles so where would these funds be coming from now. i would hope their ar*ses are twitching a bit with the chance of criminal charges being brought after this farce is sorted.enjoy it while you can you pair of arragant barstards. Freezing orders allow their subjects a reasonable sum for living expenses so they wont be destitute ... plus they will have the income from their other halves who are not subject ot the case or order the income from their other halves - isn't that something that ought to be looked at closely ?
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Post by rooster on Sept 16, 2021 17:39:26 GMT
does LB and TG have any other source of income whilst assets have been frozen. i am sure they are not struggling to maintain their millionaire lifestyles so where would these funds be coming from now. i would hope their ar*ses are twitching a bit with the chance of criminal charges being brought after this farce is sorted.enjoy it while you can you pair of arragant barstards. Once the courts have determined guilt, I'd have thought that criminal charges would be the least of their worries considering the amount of people they have shafted, and shafted for thousands.
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Post by rooster on Sept 16, 2021 17:43:21 GMT
does LB and TG have any other source of income whilst assets have been frozen. i am sure they are not struggling to maintain their millionaire lifestyles so where would these funds be coming from now. i would hope their ar*ses are twitching a bit with the chance of criminal charges being brought after this farce is sorted.enjoy it while you can you pair of arragant barstards. Freezing orders allow their subjects a reasonable sum for living expenses so they wont be destitute ... plus they will have the income from their other halves who are not subject ot the case or order They still have other halves?! I can't see those sticking around much longer now most of the playboy money has dried up
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Post by p2psws on Sept 17, 2021 17:56:24 GMT
TG's other half has a suspiciously luxurious holiday let that theyre making good money with. Ill dig out the link to it.
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Post by jane on Sept 17, 2021 21:19:16 GMT
It is, of course, perfectly possible that he gained Swiss nationality between 2011 and 2020. It is, yes.*
But there were numerous company registrations, before, during and since 2011. The most recent one I am aware of was 06/09/19. And none of them give a nationality other than English or British.
Also agreed that he could have dual nationality. But that is not what was stated in the defence statement.
* Edit: No, actually, it's not. I now see that there are more company registrations up to and beyond the date of the court filings. The most recent one was six weeks ago. I also note that the country of residence for the more recent ones is England rather than France.
So the Swiss nationality maybe makes sense.
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Post by wotnot on Sept 18, 2021 5:58:02 GMT
So the Swiss nationality maybe makes sense. The company was registered in Switzerland. A company is essentially a piece of paper in a solicitor's filing cabinet. (Or perhaps more accurately these days: an entry in a database.)
Marshall Islands nationality would make equal sense on that basis. As would US nationality, Cypriot nationality, New Zealand nationality and, I think, others.
p2psws, if you are referring to the property near Chichester, that featured prominently in the court filings. Its purchase was funded via the offshore companies.
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Post by shimself on Sept 18, 2021 11:51:32 GMT
Didn't they start off with boats (being based in Portsmouth makes sense). Was it always the plan to switch into property?
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Post by merlin99 on Sept 18, 2021 15:58:23 GMT
Yes almost certainly with boats under the Saving Stream banner. At the start they were working from poky offices in Cowes on the Isle of Wight. As well as the boats they were also lending on upmarket expensive cars. Both the boats and the cars were supposed to be held in a secure a storage facility but the truth of this was very seriously in doubt. The first record that I have is for June 2015 but IIRC it was going some time before that.
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