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Post by adrianc on Nov 19, 2021 19:52:47 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked.
(Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?)
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 19, 2021 21:09:47 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked. (Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?) As it happens went to the cinema yesterday to see it. First visit to the cinema since way before lockdown 1. (in fact, utilised Tesco 3:1 voucher trade in to get Cine world vouchers oh about 2 weeks before March 24th 2020 (or whenever it was), so the vouchers were in need of using up). I found it a bit OTT: just too full on, but then I haven't watched any other recent time Bond film to compare it to. Spoiler alert though: if you intend seeing, don't listen to anyone that is going to tell you what the ending is.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 19, 2021 21:17:16 GMT
i know, but they offer pre-release ordering. I tried to pre-order a different DVD and it came back that I couldn't. I have no idea why not, it's coming from the same EU hub I'm getting other orders/ pre-orders from.
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Post by ozboy on Nov 19, 2021 21:54:48 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked. (Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?) I too thought it was mainly rubbish, Bond has now gone Total Hollywood.
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Post by ilmoro on Nov 20, 2021 0:22:26 GMT
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Post by ilmoro on Nov 20, 2021 0:25:17 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked. (Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?) I too thought it was mainly rubbish, Bond has now gone Total Hollywood. How can you go totally Hollywood if no Hollywood is involved? For the record its the second worst of the pentology ... Skyfall, Casino Royal, Spectre, No Time, Quantum
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Post by adrianc on Nov 20, 2021 7:53:53 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked. (Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?) I too thought it was mainly rubbish, Bond has now gone Total Hollywood. Bond went Total Hollywood somewhen around Roger Moore and his amazing eyebrow acrobatics. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. Craig is easily the best Bond after Connery, not that that's a very high bar, given how laughably hammy most of them have been.
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Post by agent69 on Nov 20, 2021 9:59:26 GMT
I too thought it was mainly rubbish, Bond has now gone Total Hollywood. Bond went Total Hollywood somewhen around Roger Moore and his amazing eyebrow acrobatics. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it. Craig is easily the best Bond after Connery, not that that's a very high bar, given how laughably hammy most of them have been. I've always thought that James Bond was a bit like Doctor Who. The older ones were always best.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 11:22:43 GMT
David Niven was the one and only true Bond, well before Brocolli's time. It is a gift and I have an Amazon voucher.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 21, 2021 21:39:51 GMT
It's OK, as Bond goes, if you're happy to TOTALLY suspend belief for damn near three hours. No cliche unticked. (Wouldn't it be easier to just wait until it's actually released? I mean, if you were desperate to watch it, you'd have gone to the flicks, right?) As it happens went to the cinema yesterday to see it. First visit to the cinema since way before lockdown 1. (in fact, utilised Tesco 3:1 voucher trade in to get Cine world vouchers oh about 2 weeks before March 24th 2020 (or whenever it was), so the vouchers were in need of using up). I found it a bit OTT: just too full on, but then I haven't watched any other recent time Bond film to compare it to. Spoiler alert though: if you intend seeing, don't listen to anyone that is going to tell you what the ending is. I have just watched it and luckily had not read this. If I had read it I would have been distracted waiting for a twist at the end. Must admit thought I was a little surprised... really a car starting first time after being stood in a dusty garage for years, that's a bit of a stretch.
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Post by registerme on Dec 4, 2021 10:15:17 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Dec 4, 2021 13:11:16 GMT
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Post by jonno on Dec 4, 2021 13:36:05 GMT
I'm not going to try and enter into a debate about the glaring partiality in Grey's work as I know that works both ways; but look,given where we are, and speaking as a borderline "Remainer", wouldn't the glittering array of experts oft quoted in Grey's musings be far better employed putting their humungus brain power together in working collaboratively to achieve a more progressive, fairer and wealthy society for all, rather than constantly doing their utmost to show how they were right and the "numbskulls" were WRONG. Especially given that the decision has been made, we ain't going back and the country surely has to unite and look forward with at least a modicum of positivity and optimism?
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Post by registerme on Dec 4, 2021 20:19:55 GMT
I'm not going to try and enter into a debate about the glaring partiality in Grey's work as I know that works both ways; but look,given where we are, and speaking as a borderline "Remainer", wouldn't the glittering array of experts oft quoted in Grey's musings be far better employed putting their humungus brain power together in working collaboratively to achieve a more progressive, fairer and wealthy society for all, rather than constantly doing their utmost to show how they were right and the "numbskulls" were WRONG. Especially given that the decision has been made, we ain't going back and the country surely has to unite and look forward with at least a modicum of positivity and optimism? An interesting (and provocative, in a good way) reply, thank you. I agree, Grey is partial. But he's also the most informed, cogent, and coherent commentator I know of. I would welcome the equivalent from the Brexit supporting perspective. If anybody is aware of such a commentator / blog then please let me know. fwiw I really enjoyed the rather anti-EU Charlemagne piece in the Economist this week. I thought it nailed a perfectly valid criticism of the EU that would resonate with some forumites. Yes, the decision has been made. But that's not to say it can't be unmade at some point in the future. I don't want to spend any (more) time on that because we've collectively done it to death before in this thread. If we, as a country, are to "unite and start looking forwards" then we must start from a position of honesty. We must be honest with ourselves, and we must be honest with each other. That honesty is utterly absent from the Leaver side of the public debate. Until I see some evidence of that I am entitled to feel extremely angry about how events played out. Reconciliation is needed. That is dependent on truth. I used those two words deliberately. I'm absolutely for a more progressive, fairer and wealthier society for all. I'm also for a more tolerant society for all. Unfortunately the latter is nastily entangled in the wider debate (culture wars etc). The start of the answer to both issues is to vote the current shower out. As soon as possible.
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Post by ilmoro on Dec 4, 2021 21:48:36 GMT
I'm not going to try and enter into a debate about the glaring partiality in Grey's work as I know that works both ways; but look,given where we are, and speaking as a borderline "Remainer", wouldn't the glittering array of experts oft quoted in Grey's musings be far better employed putting their humungus brain power together in working collaboratively to achieve a more progressive, fairer and wealthy society for all, rather than constantly doing their utmost to show how they were right and the "numbskulls" were WRONG. Especially given that the decision has been made, we ain't going back and the country surely has to unite and look forward with at least a modicum of positivity and optimism? An interesting (and provocative, in a good way) reply, thank you. I agree, Grey is partial. But he's also the most informed, cogent, and coherent commentator I know of. I would welcome the equivalent from the Brexit supporting perspective. If anybody is aware of such a commentator / blog then please let me know. fwiw I really enjoyed the rather anti-EU Charlemagne piece in the Economist this week. I thought it nailed a perfectly valid criticism of the EU that would resonate with some forumites. Yes, the decision has been made. But that's not to say it can't be unmade at some point in the future. I don't want to spend any (more) time on that because we've collectively done it to death before in this thread. If we, as a country, are to "unite and start looking forwards" then we must start from a position of honesty. We must be honest with ourselves, and we must be honest with each other. That honesty is utterly absent from the Leaver side of the public debate. Until I see some evidence of that I am entitled to feel extremely angry about how events played out. Reconciliation is needed. That is dependent on truth. I used those two words deliberately. I'm absolutely for a more progressive, fairer and wealthier society for all. I'm also for a more tolerant society for all. Unfortunately the latter is nastily entangled in the wider debate (culture wars etc). The start of the answer to both issues is to vote the current shower out. As soon as possible. I would say www.eureferendum.com/ but he's kind of moved away from Brexit these days on to other issues where he can bash the govt & legacy media. However, if youre brave there's about 20 years of Brexit stuff, including the original Brexit plan.
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