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Post by adrianc on Jan 12, 2021 17:43:48 GMT
So "fa" in "antifa" is short for "fascist", right? And if you're anti-anti-something, you're in favour of it? So, basically, he's wearing a sweatshirt saying "I'm a fascist".
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Post by registerme on Jan 12, 2021 20:18:47 GMT
I would absolutely love to see Eugene Goodman on the front of Time magazine, as their "man of the year".
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Post by df on Jan 12, 2021 21:50:10 GMT
So "fa" in "antifa" is short for "fascist", right? And if you're anti-anti-something, you're in favour of it? So, basically, he's wearing a sweatshirt saying "I'm a fascist". A 'sophisticated' way to express one's political belief The logo underneath the text suggests that anti-fascism comes from the USSR Is this the image of the "Trump's militia"? Trump has repeatedly stated that Obama, Clinton and Biden are communists... I don't think he will ever admit that he himself is a fascist, but he definitely gave a moral boost to Neo-nazi movement in the US. His recent predecessors were concentrating on supporting Neo-nazi movements in other parts of the world whenever they could serve the US geopolitical interests, but this one seems to have brought it back home.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 10:18:52 GMT
They are not confused they are trying to cover a lot of bases, they are against...
Left wingers Communists Perverts (various) Certain racial groups (but not all or indeed all but one) People who don't like the police
Soul eating zombies Foreigners
This allows them to gather in all the loons into something that feels a bit bigger.
"hi, I'm a flat earther, how do you feel about us?"
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Post by agent69 on Jan 13, 2021 21:12:33 GMT
I see the vote for impeachment is in progress in the House, with several Republicans voting in favour. It looks like DT has become a liability for the Republican party and I wonder if some in the Senate might be tempted to impeach so that he can never run for Presidnt again.
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Post by registerme on Jan 13, 2021 21:29:57 GMT
I wonder if some in the Senate might be tempted to impeach so that he can never run for Presidnt again. There was some talk earlier today (Reuters? BBC? Can't remember...) that "up to 20 Republican Senators could vote to convict". I think they need 17 to get the two thirds majority? Also I think I'm right in saying that if the Senate vote occurs after the Inauguration then Chuck Schumer would manage things, rather than McConnell. It's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. I just hope there's no violence .
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Post by mrk on Jan 13, 2021 22:42:07 GMT
I wonder if some in the Senate might be tempted to impeach so that he can never run for Presidnt again. There was some talk earlier today (Reuters? BBC? Can't remember...) that "up to 20 Republican Senators could vote to convict". I think they need 17 to get the two thirds majority? Also I think I'm right in saying that if the Senate vote occurs after the Inauguration then Chuck Schumer would manage things, rather than McConnell. Even McConnell is said to be "privately" in favour of impeachment as a way to expel Trump from the Republican party.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 14, 2021 9:01:34 GMT
They are not confused they are trying to cover a lot of bases, they are against...
Left wingers Communists Perverts (various) Certain racial groups (but not all or indeed all but one) People who don't like the police
Soul eating zombies Foreigners
This allows them to gather in all the loons into something that feels a bit bigger.
"hi, I'm a flat earther, how do you feel about us?"
In a weak moment I read a bit of their stuff, as far as I can see: They believe there is an international conspiracy involving most of the above, Satan, paedophiles, the Chinese and Jews (and sometimes Catholics) get special mention, trying to bring down the USA embodied in their hero Trump. All Democrats and any dissenting Republicans are obviously part of the plot. They see themselves as the only ones knowing the truth about the conspiracy, proper Christians, well armed patriots (peacefully?) fighting to save their nation from Communism and worse. But are happy to accept any sort of well armed nut into their ranks. A scary lot!
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Post by agent69 on Jan 14, 2021 9:07:39 GMT
They are not confused they are trying to cover a lot of bases, they are against...
Left wingers Communists Perverts (various) Certain racial groups (but not all or indeed all but one) People who don't like the police
Soul eating zombies Foreigners
This allows them to gather in all the loons into something that feels a bit bigger.
"hi, I'm a flat earther, how do you feel about us?"
In a weak moment I read a bit of their stuff, as far as I can see: They believe there is an international conspiracy involving most of the above, Satan, paedophiles, the Chinese and Jews (and sometimes Catholics) get special mention, trying to bring down the USA embodied in their hero Trump. All Democrats and any dissenting Republicans are obviously part of the plot. They see themselves as the only ones knowing the truth about the conspiracy, proper Christians, well armed patriots (peacefully?) fighting to save their nation from Communism and worse. But are happy to accept any sort of well armed nut into their ranks. A scary lot! So basically anyone who disagrees with them is part of the plot?
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Post by mrk on Jan 14, 2021 9:28:08 GMT
In a weak moment I read a bit of their stuff, as far as I can see: They believe there is an international conspiracy involving most of the above, Satan, paedophiles, the Chinese and Jews (and sometimes Catholics) get special mention, trying to bring down the USA embodied in their hero Trump. All Democrats and any dissenting Republicans are obviously part of the plot. They see themselves as the only ones knowing the truth about the conspiracy, proper Christians, well armed patriots (peacefully?) fighting to save their nation from Communism and worse. But are happy to accept any sort of well armed nut into their ranks. A scary lot! So basically anyone who disagrees with them is part of the plot? That's typical. From The Conspiracy Theory Handbook
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 11:13:04 GMT
To add to their delusion they have to dress alike. See the Proud Boys' (Pout Boys as I call them) black and yellow kilts. I'll not post the photos they are too reminicent of PG Wodehouse's "Brown Shorts"
Hail Spode.
The PD are racists but they include whites and hispanics. Again remember when the Nazi party included gays until the night of the long knives?
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jan 14, 2021 11:27:16 GMT
In a weak moment I read a bit of their stuff, as far as I can see: They believe there is an international conspiracy involving most of the above, Satan, paedophiles, the Chinese and Jews (and sometimes Catholics) get special mention, trying to bring down the USA embodied in their hero Trump. All Democrats and any dissenting Republicans are obviously part of the plot. They see themselves as the only ones knowing the truth about the conspiracy, proper Christians, well armed patriots (peacefully?) fighting to save their nation from Communism and worse. But are happy to accept any sort of well armed nut into their ranks. A scary lot! So basically anyone who disagrees with them is part of the plot? Maybe a little strong, they may allow that some (if they don't fit any of the beyond the pale categories above) are stupid, ignorant or mislead rather than actually in the plot and worth showing the error of their ways, but it seems that anyone in any sort of position of power who disagrees is deeply suspect. I didn't say any of it made sense!
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Post by keitha on Jan 14, 2021 11:37:31 GMT
But to argue the opposite point ( and no i'm not one of that mob )
The whole ANTIFA movement is becoming the thing it opposes, shutting down freedom of expression, the right to free speech etc,
Like the 2 faced attitude of Facebook and Twitter over the Ugandan elections, they have both condemned the Ugandan Government for trying to block free speech, the very thing they have done by blocking Trump and his supporters.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 14, 2021 11:42:02 GMT
That's basically how a lot of religions operate too. If you're not with us, you've obviously been corrupted by Satan the devil, the infidels/non-believers or <insert your own particular hate figure here> to work against us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 12:08:57 GMT
And, the other techniques include
1) Taking control of children's education and language 2) Accusing their accusers of the self same crimes.
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