keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 5, 2021 11:00:25 GMT
LOL I have mine on, I get a secret smug satisfaction looking at it just as I go to be and seeing the charge for the day being 20p ie the standing charge. Of course the things would be much better if you could change the Standing charge and the charge rate as it seems to be some weird default. The energy supplier is supposed to remotely update your smart meter with your current tariff information so the display is accurate. unfortunately I'm on octopus agile so it can change every 1/2 hour
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 5, 2021 16:01:17 GMT
I struggle somewhat with the idea that plugging millions of these in all over the country will save electricity. Me too. The theory is that if people see the electricity they are using then they will use less. I don’t believe that. My partner was shocked by hers but soon realised that they only significant savings she could make were to use the Kettle, Iron, Cooker dishwasher etc less. Ways people can save vary, but I have a friend who has her heating set to 21 degrees so even in a summer it quite often kicks in overnight, she also dries clothes indoors, but then runs a dehumidifier cos its damp. keep saying if she dried stuff outside (she has a decent sized garden) then she wouldn't need the dehumidifier half as much.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 12, 2021 10:07:04 GMT
Getting our in August, all info welcome By way of an update, in case anyone is in the slightest interested. After a certain amount of toing and froing, they have finally come back and said: "The device manufacturer is aware of the issue regarding KWH not displaying in the correct value. They believe it may be due to a mismatch between the firmware of the meter and that of the IHD, which is something we are currently investigating." So it has taken 10 days to get to a point where they have decided it was a problem that the manufacturer already knew about. Furthermore, the root cause is incompatible firmware revs in the two things that they fitted at the same time. WTH ? So it can display the correct instantaneous KwH usage, and calculate/display the correct monetary value (supposedly) but can't display the correct hourly/daily/weekly KwH usage. I guess the customer is the beta tester for the IHD unit..... [I should say that the guy at my energy supplier I am dealing with seems smart enough (pun intended))
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 21, 2021 16:11:34 GMT
By way of another update. I can categorically confirm that (not very) smart meters help you save money off your energy bill. The nice gentleman who was dealing with this raised a complaint on my behalf. For the inconvenience it has caused they have credited my account with £30. I recall that people were suggesting that Smart Meters were likely going to save no more than £24 off the average household bill, hence I am ahead of the curve (for the first 12 months anyway).
Still no date on when the firmware update to actually fix the problem is going to happen though.
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littleoldlady
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Post by littleoldlady on Jul 21, 2021 22:13:05 GMT
By way of another update. I can categorically confirm that (not very) smart meters help you save money off your energy bill. The nice gentleman who was dealing with this raised a complaint on my behalf. For the inconvenience it has caused they have credited my account with £30. I recall that people were suggesting that Smart Meters were likely going to save no more than £24 off the average household bill, hence I am ahead of the curve (for the first 12 months anyway). Still no date on when the firmware update to actually fix the problem is going to happen though. Nice one. However if you pay yourself a nominal amount hourly rate how far would the £30 go?
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Jul 22, 2021 8:29:21 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed.
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Post by Ace on Jul 22, 2021 8:38:41 GMT
Yes, I've got a 3.7kW system and a smart meter. I've not had any related issues.
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dave4
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Post by dave4 on Jul 22, 2021 8:41:57 GMT
Friend is au has, reads in/out, and balance owed/used. Works ok, she hasn't paid for electricity for years, heating and AC dose take it close some times. But she works lots of hours so never there.
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Mike
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Post by Mike on Jul 22, 2021 9:22:23 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed. If youre on an old FIT then smart meters mean you get paid for generation + what you actually feed back to the grid - rather than generation + 50% where it's not measured. So if you're good at hammering the kettle/immersion/EV/washer/dryer/etc. and maintaining as close to 0W a negative net usage as you can while the sun is out then it might mean ou'd be worse off - I've never done a proper calculation to see how likely that is though
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Post by alibaba on Jul 22, 2021 9:35:48 GMT
Yes, I've got a 3.7kW system and a smart meter. I've not had any related issues. I have a smart meter and 3KW system installed eighteen months ago, no problems. Just one point to consider, I don't yet have batteries and my excess goes to the grid with no credit my neighbour has the old type meter and when he has more than he can use the meter runs backwards hence reducing his bill.
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Post by Ace on Jul 22, 2021 10:35:55 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed. If youre on an old FIT then smart meters mean you get paid for generation + what you actually feed back to the grid - rather than generation + 50% where it's not measured. So if you're good at hammering the kettle/immersion/EV/washer/dryer/etc. and maintaining as close to 0W a negative net usage as you can while the sun is out then it might mean ou'd be worse off - I've never done a proper calculation to see how likely that is though I have FIT (10 years now) and a smart meter. I still get paid the assumed 50% export rather than what is measured. I think it depends on which tariff you choose. I'm with Octopus for energy supply and SSE for FIT payments. I believe you are required to move to measured payments if you have batteries fitted.
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Post by Ace on Jul 22, 2021 10:41:22 GMT
Yes, I've got a 3.7kW system and a smart meter. I've not had any related issues. I have a smart meter and 3KW system installed eighteen months ago, no problems. Just one point to consider, I don't yet have batteries and my excess goes to the grid with no credit my neighbour has the old type meter and when he has more than he can use the meter runs backwards hence reducing his bill. I believe that having the meter run backwards is not ligit. You are supposed to inform the electricity supplier, who should then change the meter. I had the same thing for the first year till they got around to replacing it. A neighbour had the same also and didn't inform them. When they found out they charged him for the unbilled usage using some complicated formula based on usage before the panels were fitted. I think he was with NPower.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 22, 2021 10:53:53 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed. If youre on an old FIT then smart meters mean you get paid for generation + what you actually feed back to the grid - rather than generation + 50% where it's not measured. So if you're good at hammering the kettle/immersion/EV/washer/dryer/etc. and maintaining as close to 0W a negative net usage as you can while the sun is out then it might mean ou'd be worse off - I've never done a proper calculation to see how likely that is though Yes a friend of mine is in this position. They are on old FIT tariff and that makes assumption of how much you use versus generated. he has an IT business and its based from home.....know way he is going to opt in for a smart meter when he is currently getting a free ride....
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Mike
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Post by Mike on Jul 22, 2021 10:58:06 GMT
I have FIT (10 years now) and a smart meter. I still get paid the assumed 50% export rather than what is measured. I think it depends on which tariff you choose. I'm with Octopus for energy supply and SSE for FIT payments. I believe you are required to move to measured payments if you have batteries fitted. Is that the same for FIT payments too? I am thinking of getting octopus go/agile with some batteries for winter but there seems to be little comprehensive (and reliable) information sources that I have found that relate to the FIT scheme, battery storage, and modern energy tariffs which all seem to be only concerned with the current SEG scheme. Some sources suggest the payment for generation through FIT can be retained while export can be replaced with a more modern pricing structure. Others suggest having batteries makes a difference. Some say octopus agile doesn't impact the FIT at all since it's not an export tariff. . . A bit off topic.
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Post by Steerpike on Jul 22, 2021 11:19:25 GMT
We have solar, battery, smart meter, FiT with deemed export, and Octopus GO for charging the battery using the off peak rate in the winter.
We are not on an export tariff and on sunny days we send enough electicity to the grid for free to power up to three other houses.
For those with solar and Tesla Powerwall, the Tesla Energy Plan is worth a look, I have been considering this option for some time.
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