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Post by Ace on Jul 22, 2021 11:24:13 GMT
I have FIT (10 years now) and a smart meter. I still get paid the assumed 50% export rather than what is measured. I think it depends on which tariff you choose. I'm with Octopus for energy supply and SSE for FIT payments. I believe you are required to move to measured payments if you have batteries fitted. Is that the same for FIT payments too? I am thinking of getting octopus go/agile with some batteries for winter but there seems to be little comprehensive (and reliable) information sources that I have found that relate to the FIT scheme, battery storage, and modern energy tariffs which all seem to be only concerned with the current SEG scheme. Some sources suggest the payment for generation through FIT can be retained while export can be replaced with a more modern pricing structure. Others suggest having batteries makes a difference. Some say octopus agile doesn't impact the FIT at all since it's not an export tariff. . . A bit off topic. I'm not sure I completely understand the question, and I'm no expert, but... I have another friend who has solar (fitted 11 years ago) and has recently had batteries fitted. He gets FIT payments and was told he has to move from deemed 50% export to measured export. He's with octopus, but not sure which tariff. EDIT: forgot to say; he's having a smart meter fitted next week.
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Post by moonraker on Jul 22, 2021 11:56:46 GMT
Today's Daily Telegraph has a (small) front-page story about Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng admitting that smart meters won't work when/if gas boilers are switched to hydrogen. But that would appear to be a very minor nuisance if one has to replace boilers,ovens, fires and pipes. And hydrogen would be three times more expensive than gas for domestic consumers. I wonder how many house-owners will want to pay thousands of pounds for radical alteration such as large radiators, large external installations such as heat pumps, and new piping. Already there are stories of systems that have replaced gas not working efficiently because the building has microbore pipework. To replace that means a great deal of mess.
Replacement gas systems will be a fertile ground for cowboy companies.
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Post by Mike on Jul 22, 2021 11:56:51 GMT
We have solar, battery, smart meter, FiT with deemed export, and Octopus GO for charging the battery using the off peak rate in the winter. We are not on an export tariff and on sunny days we send enough electicity to the grid for free to power up to three other houses. For those with solar and Tesla Powerwall, the Tesla Energy Plan is worth a look, I have been considering this option for some time.
This is exactly what i'd like. What I am not sure about is, for FIT scheme holders would we lose the generation-element of the FIT payment if we switched to something like the tesla export tarrif? Or only the export part of the FIT (which will continue to look less and less like a fair price @ 5.5p/kWh or whatever it is)? Also - interested in how fast your batteries charge overnight? Most battery storage specs seem more focussed on the continuous discharge rate rather than the "real life" charge speed; which with octopus go would need to be several kW average over the charge cycle; my electric car (e208) battery charge speed drops off quite quickly as it's incresingly fully charged (from about 60%)
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Post by Steerpike on Jul 22, 2021 12:08:24 GMT
We have solar, battery, smart meter, FiT with deemed export, and Octopus GO for charging the battery using the off peak rate in the winter. We are not on an export tariff and on sunny days we send enough electicity to the grid for free to power up to three other houses. For those with solar and Tesla Powerwall, the Tesla Energy Plan is worth a look, I have been considering this option for some time.
This is exactly what i'd like. What I am not sure about is, for FIT scheme holders would we lose the generation-element of the FIT payment if we switched to something like the tesla export tarrif? Or only the export part of the FIT (which will continue to look less and less like a fair price @ 5.5p/kWh or whatever it is)? Also - interested in how fast your batteries charge overnight? Most battery storage specs seem more focussed on the continuous discharge rate rather than the "real life" charge speed; which with octopus go would need to be several kW average over the charge cycle; my electric car (e208) battery charge speed drops off quite quickly as it's incresingly fully charged (from about 60%) Switching to The Tesla Energy Plan means that the deemed FiT export payments stop, as will happen for any tariff that pays for export, the main FiT payment is unaffected.
During the cold dark months my battery is fully charged in 4 hours overnight.
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Post by keitha on Jul 22, 2021 15:36:06 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed. 4.2 KWH system here, with battery storage, I'm intrigued because without a smart meter I had no way of being paid for the export. I'm being paid an average of just over £2 per day at the moment, by that U mean after taking off any consumption and the standing charge currently on octopus Agile and Agile export, my export from 18:30 to 19:00 tonight is at 19.29p a unit,unfortunately we are not getting the price plunges that we used to see overnight on a regular basis where it went down to about 2P a unit for import, or the glorious ones that went -ve. I'm being pragmatic I will probably switch to Octopus Go or Go Faster in mid october when my panels no longer supply my needs, and then switch back in March to get the benefit of the higher export rates
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 15:40:41 GMT
Today's Daily Telegraph has a (small) front-page story about Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng admitting that smart meters won't work when/if gas boilers are switched to hydrogen. But that would appear to be a very minor nuisance if one has to replace boilers,ovens, fires and pipes. And hydrogen would be three times more expensive than gas for domestic consumers. I wonder how many house-owners will want to pay thousands of pounds for radical alteration such as large radiators, large external installations such as heat pumps, and new piping. Already there are stories of systems that have replaced gas not working efficiently because the building has microbore pipework. To replace that means a great deal of mess.
Replacement gas systems will be a fertile ground for cowboy companies.
I suspect you are confusing heat pumps and H2. Heat pumps will require larger bores/radiators to compensate for lower temp differentials. H2 will require different burners. Calorific value changes can be compensated by changing pressure and burn rates. Prices are not yet set for any of these things at true economic volumes. So there is no way of knowing what the price change will be. What does not change is the DT's view that climate change is false and why can't we all live like we did in 1920. Don't worry this confusion is spreading around the country as the fear of change is enough to make many people struggle to understand. I spent yesterday evening with a bright lad who is installing a propane cooker as he thought he could get more energy out for an amount of CO2.
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Post by Steerpike on Jul 22, 2021 16:15:04 GMT
Has anyone out there got a smart meter along with solar panels? I've got a 4kw system and have avoided getting a smart meter due to a number of stories doing the rounds that compatibility is not good. I don't know whether these reports are well grounded but I haven't wanted to take the chance as it's too late once installed. I'm being pragmatic I will probably switch to Octopus Go or Go Faster in mid october when my panels no longer supply my needs, and then switch back in March to get the benefit of the higher export rates Didn't Octopus make this more difficult recently? I think that there is now an enforced 30 days on the standard tariff when switching to/from Agile/GO.
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Post by keitha on Jul 25, 2021 20:30:52 GMT
I'm being pragmatic I will probably switch to Octopus Go or Go Faster in mid october when my panels no longer supply my needs, and then switch back in March to get the benefit of the higher export rates Didn't Octopus make this more difficult recently? I think that there is now an enforced 30 days on the standard tariff when switching to/from Agile/GO. no what they've done is stop you switching within 30 days of being on a tariff, so I can't do go in the week and agile at weekends
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Post by scooter on Nov 24, 2022 17:43:28 GMT
My octegenarian parents have just found out that their smart meter stoped sending a reading in September 21. The meter is dead. Worse still the 3 letter supplier stopped estimating for gas at the same time. The online account recognises they can't get a reading, but they did nothing about it.
We notified them of the error and guess what the response was.... No you won't guess..... They want my parents to prove that the meter isn't working before they come out to look at it! Could they "send in a video of it not working".
When did common sense stop being a thing?
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Post by keitha on Nov 25, 2022 15:57:15 GMT
depending on the meter it may be possible with a simple video showing only some lights flashing.. data.n3rgy.com/consumer/home will enable you to see if data is getting to the DCC ( whatever that is ) if the data is reaching the DCC then the problem is supplier end otherwise it's your parents end |
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Post by pikestaff on Nov 25, 2022 17:07:24 GMT
My octegenarian parents have just found out that their smart meter stoped sending a reading in September 21. The meter is dead. Worse still the 3 letter supplier stopped estimating for gas at the same time. The online account recognises they can't get a reading, but they did nothing about it. We notified them of the error and guess what the response was.... No you won't guess..... They want my parents to prove that the meter isn't working before they come out to look at it! Could they "send in a video of it not working". When did common sense stop being a thing? Is it dead or is the problem at their end? If it's the latter they should be able to fix it remotely. I have a smart meter but noticed in July that my previous 2 bills had been estimates. After investigation, following the guidance on my supplier's website (So Energy), I established that the meter was working fine so the problem must be at their end. I emailed them with full info. 6 weeks later I got a standard reply about faulty meters, asking for a video showing what the lights are doing. I replied to the effect that I'd already looked at the lights and established the meter was not faulty. Please could they read what I'd sent them before and deal with it. I've had no reply to that email but, lo and behold, my last 2 bills show meter readings. So they must have got round to fixing it eventually. Why this rigmarole should be necessary is beyond me. Their systems should (1) automatically pick up that they are not receiving readings, (2) try to fix the meter remotely, and (3) only if that does not work, communicate with the customer that there appears to be a problem. At that point it might be reasonable to ask for a video, which should be no sweat for a tech savvy customer with a mobile phone, but the request should come with an alternative for those who can't supply one.
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Post by benaj on Nov 25, 2022 17:54:58 GMT
My octegenarian parents have just found out that their smart meter stoped sending a reading in September 21. The meter is dead. Worse still the 3 letter supplier stopped estimating for gas at the same time. The online account recognises they can't get a reading, but they did nothing about it. We notified them of the error and guess what the response was.... No you won't guess..... They want my parents to prove that the meter isn't working before they come out to look at it! Could they "send in a video of it not working". When did common sense stop being a thing? How awful! This happens at the time where customers can’t simply switch providers. E.on sent me estimated reading when stop receiving my smart meter reading after taking over from administration. I kept sending meter readings regularly until they fixed it on their end. It took them 3 months to realise they stopped receiving data from my smart meters, claiming technical error on their end. Anyway, I have never been asked to send them a video.
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Post by jonno on Nov 26, 2022 13:12:53 GMT
I had a smart meter installed ten days ago and I'm beginning to regret it already.Firstly, the installer told me that he'd had five unsuccessful attempts at getting the gas meter to start communicating (but not to worry as EDF will sort it out). Needless to say I've heard nowt. Secondly, my monitoring unit appears to be unable to communicate with the meter for much of the time; the meter is in the garage, and unless I stand on a chair up against the wall nearest to it, it won't work. Reminds me of moving the aerial to get a sixties tv to work. All in all pretty hopeless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2022 13:28:17 GMT
My installation required the installer to sort out the aerial. In fact I would not let them leave until they confirmed it was working. It works fine. I would recommend don't let the b@@@ rs leave until they have done the job correctly. |
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Post by benaj on Nov 26, 2022 14:04:43 GMT
I had a smart meter installed ten days ago and I'm beginning to regret it already.Firstly, the installer told me that he'd had five unsuccessful attempts at getting the gas meter to start communicating (but not to worry as EDF will sort it out). Needless to say I've heard nowt. Secondly, my monitoring unit appears to be unable to communicate with the meter for much of the time; the meter is in the garage, and unless I stand on a chair up against the wall nearest to it, it won't work. Reminds me of moving the aerial to get a sixties tv to work. All in all pretty hopeless. I thought it was the job of the installer to ensure communication is flawless before they leave. Mine spent 60 mins on site.
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