keitha
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Post by keitha on Nov 8, 2021 11:33:37 GMT
The difference in the actions of the UK Police in the Ben Needham and Madeleine McCann show this to be true
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Post by agent69 on Nov 11, 2021 10:28:57 GMT
Three opposition MP's (2 x SNP and 1 x Lab) got legless on a flight to Gibraltar to commemorate remembrance Sunday. Labour MP Charlotte Nichols was in such a state she needed a wheelchair to get her out of the airport.
PS: Ms Nichols is chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Pubs
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Post by overthehill on Nov 11, 2021 10:32:27 GMT
Three opposition MP's (2 x SNP and 1 x Lab) got legless on a flight to Gibraltar to commemorate remembrance Sunday. Labour MP Charlotte Nichols was in such a state she needed a wheelchair to get her out of the airport. PS: Ms Nichols is chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Pubs This is too good to ignore, link please !
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Post by agent69 on Nov 11, 2021 11:09:12 GMT
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Post by registerme on Nov 11, 2021 11:18:58 GMT
What's interesting about this is that they're (with the exception of the Labour MP?) vehemently denying it. So somebody is clearly in the wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 12:13:18 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 11, 2021 13:00:43 GMT
I wonder whether it is actually correct: the SNP are vehemently denying it (well they would wouldn't they....) and might well be Tory smokescreen to mask the contrails of Sir Geoffrey of the Cox. Being 'drunk on a plane' is of course quite a serious criminal offence under UK law, with maximum penalties of up to £5k fine and 2 years custodial. One of the few trials I juried on was for that offence, alongside a second charge of common assault. The 'being drunk on a plane' offence was considered the more serious, and the reason why it went to a jury trial. What made it particularly interesting is that the offender was a 'person of good standing' retired from a job that would be respected by pretty much anyone. And they made a point of wheeling in character references such as their local vicar. But there was also a slight air of 'disdain' from the offender/their lawyer towards the air crew witnesses, implying a 'conspiracy' by them [almost a bit like 'this person and his career are more respected than mere air stewardesses so why believe them ?]. Quite why the airline would want to have multiple members of its workforce forgo a days work by their having to turn up at court as a result of them pressing charges if it was fake was always beyond me. I was surprised how the 'respected person/person of good character' bit played out with a couple of jury members: I think it influenced them quite a lot to lean in the defendant's favour. I would say the 'respected member of society' was visibly shocked to find that a sufficient majority of us had not been so swayed.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2021 13:37:38 GMT
I wonder whether it is actually correct: the SNP are vehemently denying it (well they would wouldn't they....) and might well be Tory smokescreen to mask the contrails of Sir Geoffrey of the Cox. It certainly appears that all other media outlets are quoting the Times and the Sun, who are quoting the Armed Forces Minister and "un-named witness"/"parliamentary staffer". The Labour MP has been named, and left early after a "mental health episode" seemingly related to PTSD medication - she's previously talked about a serious sexual assault that she did not feel she could report to Police... Here's the Scottish angle on it... www.thenational.scot/news/19709487.tories-accused-disgusting-smear-snp-mps-trip-gibraltar/My gut feel would be that there may be the makings of something, but it's all got a bit blown out of proportion with a whiff of diversion, and quite probably some deliberate omissions...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 14:01:29 GMT
The famous story of the MP at Auckland airport, drunkingly saying "do you know who I am"...."no mate, but I just sent your luggage on a round the world tour" always comes to mind at this time
The SNP loves to sell the "they are out to get us, even when we are guilty" and "12 women must be wrong compared to a Male SNP member" suggests that they blew it big time.
Any one who says, "I only had 5 drinks and I didn't know how they would combine with my new meds" doesn't deserve to go on junkets
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Post by ozboy on Nov 11, 2021 14:06:09 GMT
"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10188871/Three-MPs-drank-heavily-official-trip-meet-troops-Gibraltar.html"On my local Forum website I gave up years ago from quoting anything from the DM, I'd be immediately & relentlessly attacked for reading such a foul rag. Of course, with such people, The Grauniad is beyond reproach and is 100% factually correct in all its articles. 
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 11, 2021 14:18:48 GMT
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2021 14:36:45 GMT
"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10188871/Three-MPs-drank-heavily-official-trip-meet-troops-Gibraltar.html"On my local Forum website I gave up years ago from quoting anything from the DM, I'd be immediately & relentlessly attacked for reading such a foul rag. Of course, with such people, The Grauniad is beyond reproach and is 100% factually correct in all its articles. Whenever the official stats on complaints upheld are released, the Wail has long been top of the list, and the Guardian nowhere to be seen... For a change, in the latest stats, it's the Times and Express that have overtaken it. www.pressgazette.co.uk/times-express-top-ipso-breaches-2019/Of course, I'm sure it's pure coincidence that Paul Dacre stood down as Wail editor in late 2018... and that his replacement, Geordie Grieg, made it a stated priority to change the paper's stance...
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Post by agent69 on Nov 11, 2021 16:03:53 GMT
Rotherham has been a political nightmare for years, NB the Star is hardly a competent paper, but note the police comment in the article
Yorkshire Cricket rightly deserves a serious kicking for not bringing itself to order.
Interesting that in todays world T20 semi-final between Pakistan and the convicts, none of the Pakistan players took a knee. A white South African player was banned from a match for refusing to take the knee, I wonder if any of the Pakistan players will receive a simailar sanction?
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Post by daveb on Nov 11, 2021 16:38:41 GMT
This thread is considerably less amusing than the title suggests it might be...
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 11, 2021 17:09:16 GMT
Rotherham has been a political nightmare for years, NB the Star is hardly a competent paper, but note the police comment in the article
Yorkshire Cricket rightly deserves a serious kicking for not bringing itself to order.
Interesting that in todays world T20 semi-final between Pakistan and the convicts, none of the Pakistan players took a knee. A white South African player was banned from a match for refusing to take the knee, I wonder if any of the Pakistan players will receive a simailar sanction?well that would seem rather unlikely wouldn't it ? It is an individual team / governing body decision as to whether their players want to make any specific gesture towards an anti-racism/inclusivity agenda. It seems a touch unlikely that the Pakistan team decided they would have a policy of kneeling and then promptly all decided to a man to break their own policy. Nor for their governing body to then 'ban' them all as a consequence. Your statement that Quinton de Kock was 'banned' for a match is also false. Cricket South Africa took the decision that their team would 'take the knee' (a phrase I must say I dislike) at their second game, and de Kock then withdrew himself from consideration for the team. No ban involved. Given South Africa's back history, and their striving to get reasonable representative ethnic diversity in their national sports teams, a senior white player of Boer descent ("de Kock" is a bit of a giveaway) choosing to not kneel when the rest of his team did, has considerably more potential symbolism/meaning attached to it. And consequently considerable scope for negative impact on intra team dynamics. I thought his captain Temba Bavuma's handling of the situation was skilled and thoughtful.
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