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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 1, 2022 11:28:55 GMT
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Post by overthehill on Jan 1, 2022 12:03:20 GMT
Yes this is the one I've seen. They need a legitimate address untraceable back to them. Presumably stolen credit card. They will try to intimidate you with  about keeping the parcel is a criminal offence , never hand anything back to a courier whether it has your name on it or not. Lots of unmarked delivery vans and acquired courier uniforms. The courier gets the bad press but there are plenty of parcels go 'missing' as well. I had one a few months back and the seller said 'apologies but the courier has apparently lost your package'.
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Post by mikeb on Jan 2, 2022 15:59:53 GMT
I've had a couple of calls recently about buying a warranty for my washing machine. Can't work out if it's just an overpriced warranty, if they take your money and there is no warranty, or if it's just the lead in line for trying to get your personal information. Normally it is overpriced warranty, should only occur within the first year of a new machine purchase, otherwise it is a trickAs the caller is almost 100% a conman, provide them no information, instead ask them the killer questions: "What washing machine do you have on file? Make? Model? When was it bought? Where was it bought?" I guarantee you, you will receive excuses why they "can't access that information", or, they will guess .. "It's, errr, the Samsung?" Substitute "boiler" or "vacuum cleaner" above and it still works ...
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Post by adrianc on Jan 2, 2022 17:53:42 GMT
Aftermarket warranties are almost always a scam in and of themselves, anyway.
They're an insurance product designed to be profitable once all the operating and marketing costs are paid from the premium income, as well as the claims... By taking one out, you're betting that your appliance is going to be FAR less reliable and more expensive to own than the insurers (who have extensive actuarial data) believe.
And that's before we get near the massive glaring scams... Some years ago, I bought a new iron from a large electrical retail chain. It was £20, and came with a 1yr warranty.
At the till, I was given the hard sell on an upgrade to a second year. The warranty would have been £25.
I declined the kind offer...
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Post by keitha on Jan 2, 2022 18:03:47 GMT
Aftermarket warranties are almost always a scam in and of themselves, anyway. They're an insurance product designed to be profitable once all the operating and marketing costs are paid from the premium income, as well as the claims... By taking one out, you're betting that your appliance is going to be FAR less reliable and more expensive to own than the insurers (who have extensive actuarial data) believe. And that's before we get near the massive glaring scams... Some years ago, I bought a new iron from a large electrical retail chain. It was £20, and came with a 1yr warranty. At the till, I was given the hard sell on an upgrade to a second year. The warranty would have been £25. I declined the kind offer... Had that with a £15 kettle extend the warranty to 3 years PARTS AND LABOUR for £25 If a kettle goes wrong I'm not paying someone to fix it the cost will be more than a kettle
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Post by overthehill on Jan 4, 2022 10:59:16 GMT
White collar financial crime is notoriously difficult to prosecute, at least it is being recognised as a crime in the US, not so sure about UK. A couple of big names were relieved of some cash by this scam , Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch. Funds are safer investments than individual shares, 9B -> 0.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 4, 2022 11:26:51 GMT
White collar financial crime is notoriously difficult to prosecute, at least it is being recognised as a crime in the US, not so sure about UK. A couple of big names were relieved of some cash by this scam , Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch. Funds are safer investments than individual shares, 9B -> 0.
So a teenager sets up a company that claims that by analysing a few drops of blood they can detect an almost infinite number of medical problems. Given the test didn't work, I'm suprised that it was so difficult to find her guilty.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 4, 2022 11:38:03 GMT
White collar financial crime is notoriously difficult to prosecute, at least it is being recognised as a crime in the US, not so sure about UK. A couple of big names were relieved of some cash by this scam , Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch. Funds are safer investments than individual shares, 9B -> 0.
So a teenager sets up a company that claims that by analysing a few drops of blood they can detect an almost infinite number of medical problems. Given the test didn't work, I'm suprised that it was so difficult to find her guilty. Well, there could always the "But it was legit, it just didn't quite happen for tech reasons" excuse. It's not that they had nothing - they had a thing, but it wasn't anywhere near as good a thing as they hyped it. Well, that's hardly unique in the tech world...
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 4, 2022 11:48:36 GMT
White collar financial crime is notoriously difficult to prosecute, at least it is being recognised as a crime in the US, not so sure about UK. A couple of big names were relieved of some cash by this scam , Larry Ellison and Rupert Murdoch. Funds are safer investments than individual shares, 9B -> 0.
She was obviously sunk once her defence team could only stoop to playing the wimmin card... "The defence countered with descriptions of a dedicated and driven businesswoman, making waves in a male-dominated industry."At least she won't be facing a glass ceiling. More like reinforced concrete where she's headed...
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Post by adrianc on Jan 4, 2022 12:00:09 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Jan 4, 2022 13:14:45 GMT
So a teenager sets up a company that claims that by analysing a few drops of blood they can detect an almost infinite number of medical problems. Given the test didn't work, I'm suprised that it was so difficult to find her guilty. Well, there could always the "But it was legit, it just didn't quite happen for tech reasons" excuse. It's not that they had nothing - they had a thing, but it wasn't anywhere near as good a thing as they hyped it. Well, that's hardly unique in the tech world... I was wondering if this might be an analogy:
Case for the prosecution: you sold my wife a potion claiming it was an elixir of life, but she died 2 days later
Case for the defence: the potion hasn't been quite as sucessful as we had hoped, but it did work for the first day.
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Post by Steerpike on Jan 4, 2022 13:50:20 GMT
I read Bad Blood by John Carreyrou in 2018 and it was a fascinating insight into the power of this couple.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 4, 2022 19:45:22 GMT
So a teenager sets up a company that claims that by analysing a few drops of blood they can detect an almost infinite number of medical problems. Given the test didn't work, I'm suprised that it was so difficult to find her guilty. Well, there could always the "But it was legit, it just didn't quite happen for tech reasons" excuse. It's not that they had nothing - they had a thing, but it wasn't anywhere near as good a thing as they hyped it. Well, that's hardly unique in the tech world... To have a thing which turns out to not be such a good thing as you originally told investors is of course common, and to be transparent when this becomes apparent is both expected and required behaviour. But continuing to tell the world that you have a thing that was way way better than the thing you actually have and you know that because your own employees are telling you, and you are thereby stoking the share price: that has one name that can be attached to it: fraud.
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Post by overthehill on Jan 12, 2022 12:59:25 GMT
caller id spoofing.
This has been around for years but it's the first time I've seen it for ages as I don't answer any calls now from numbers I don't recognise or expect. However today I thought it was the High Court (jury service!) so I decided to answer. The caller mumbles "you called me" and I went no. So my number has been used in the Caller ID in an attempt to scam this other person.
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Post by overthehill on Jan 13, 2022 20:29:36 GMT
So much easier when you have a ready to hand follower list of sheep.
Kim Kardashian sued in crypto 'pump and dump' case
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about keeping the parcel is a criminal offence , never hand anything back to a courier whether it has your name on it or not. Lots of unmarked delivery vans and acquired courier uniforms. The courier gets the bad press but there are plenty of parcels go 'missing' as well. I had one a few months back and the seller said 'apologies but the courier has apparently lost your package'.
