brummiefred
Member of DD Central
Posts: 313
Likes: 427
Member is Online
|
Post by brummiefred on Jan 3, 2023 16:49:21 GMT
90 Day QAA interest added at 16.13
|
|
dh1
Member of DD Central
Posts: 409
Likes: 462
|
Post by dh1 on Jan 3, 2023 19:19:58 GMT
My interest has turned up - 18:00 seems to have been a good guess...
|
|
jlend
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,840
Likes: 1,465
|
Post by jlend on Jan 4, 2023 9:14:25 GMT
All sums remaining in the 30DAA will be moved on 1 Feb ... odd in itself given thats 6 weeks after AC gave notice The interesting question is whether AC actually has the right to move funds to the QAA, given that the terms of the account state that should the account be closed then it will be wound down and funds transferred to the cash account or an account of the lenders choosing. I havent actually found anything that states AC can give notice on the notice accounts. Largely a moot point as they can drop the rates to 4% anyway Unsurprisingly, given the general level of competence previously exhibited by staff, AC are already making a horlicks of the wind down. AC certainly have the right to wind down all the access accounts pari passu, and (among other things) to equalise the interest rates to achieve this. Although they could continue to maintain 3 separate accounts it is administratively easier (and makes no difference to lenders) to combine them all in one pot. They may continue to call it the QAA but it isn't really. It's just the wind-down account. As to the right to give notice on the notice accounts, I doubt that any notice at all is necessary once wind-down is announced. I think AC could have moved all the AAs into one pot immediately, The deemed notice given on the 30DAA and 90DAA is arguably generous to them. QAA lenders might consider it to be unfair, since they are now equally locked in. Be interesting to see if AC will combine the 3 separate access account PFs as there was materially less pro rata PF cash in the 30DAA and 90DAA PFs for obvious reasons. Is it fair to combine these PFs when QAA lenders will loose out? For those still in the Access Accounts it might be worthwhile asking for an update on this. The wind turbine compensation was mostly funded by taking deemed excess from the access account PFs. At the time AC said they were confident they could return some of this money to the PFs on completion of their recovery efforts.The approach was simply to speed up the process. For those still in the Access Accounts it might be worthwhile asking for an update on this. That is a lot of money... Especially from the QAA PF which had more money available to take simply by virtue of the lower interest rate lenders were paid. The QAA holders seem particularly hard done by financially IMHO in collapsing the access accounts into a single account, especially if AC doesn't recovery all the wind turbine cash and put all the PF money back from the recovery which was their ultimate objective. Of course with the caveat the PFs are discretionary.
|
|
iann
Posts: 105
Likes: 86
|
Post by iann on Jan 4, 2023 23:19:34 GMT
I see that the target interest rates for all the Access Accounts show as 4%. For some reason I thought that changes to rates would only happen at either 30 or 90 days from the announcement. Has anyone asked if the interest is still being paid at the original rates until 30 / 90 days from 15th December?
|
|
morris
Member of DD Central
Posts: 272
Likes: 155
|
Post by morris on Jan 5, 2023 8:42:08 GMT
I assumed that the higher rates would be paid for the AA accounts notice period, otherwise what is the whole point of a notice account? They are still shown separately but all 3 AAs are marked 4%. They really don't care now.
|
|
|
Post by overthehill on Jan 10, 2023 9:51:07 GMT
Despite the few persistent predictable AC defenders in this forum who have been very quiet, there were plenty of warnings. It is now too late so get over it as quickly as possible and move on.
5 stages of grief = Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.
|
|
iann
Posts: 105
Likes: 86
|
Post by iann on Jan 12, 2023 17:12:04 GMT
I see that the target interest rates for all the Access Accounts show as 4%. For some reason I thought that changes to rates would only happen at either 30 or 90 days from the announcement. Has anyone asked if the interest is still being paid at the original rates until 30 / 90 days from 15th December? I spoke to customer support on chat, they have said: they should be showing as the previous rates 30DAA 4.1% and 90DAA 4.5%- until the funds have been moved to the QAA and it will then be 4% (there will then only be 1 access acct) It has already been raised with our tech team as a display issue and is being dealt with
|
|
|
Post by bob2010 on Mar 19, 2024 15:58:56 GMT
The view from Proplend: Hear, hear. AC are just digging their own reputational grave as a would be institutional lending channel. It looks chepe and tawdry and it is. ---------------- UPDATE from me [12 May 2023] ---------------------- ARCHIVED version of the ORIGINAL [3744 word] announcement [15 Dec 22] archive.is/41VSU ARCHIVE of CURRENT [4827 word] version [at 12 May 23] archive.is/BQSHd (now hosted on different route directory and with the previous page 404'd) Please note the 'Ed-ditions' This grabbed my attention: Do not adjust your seats, in copy pasting wholesale the verbiage received in identical 'final response' letters, Assetz' 'brain' has inadvertently duplicated two old paragraphs (now securely archived.) Would someone like to point out the nonsense to them or leave them to stumble over next edit? Also, it now requires updating to reflect the 'interim' announcement to follow their rolling the 2.9% fee another six months: People must also have been asking around, because they have included quite a lengthy rationale in the update to say they didn't just 'make up' some numbers... Do you have working link to the original terms and conditions?
|
|
rscal
Posts: 985
Likes: 537
|
Post by rscal on Mar 19, 2024 17:55:26 GMT
|
|
duck
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,864
Likes: 6,892
|
Post by duck on Jul 23, 2024 7:05:28 GMT
|
|
scooter
Member of DD Central
Posts: 403
Likes: 379
|
Post by scooter on Jul 23, 2024 8:50:36 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised, but good on you for trying. As a cost saving measure for the Govt to consider... Why not disband all regulators and let firms do whatever they want?
|
|
dave4
Member of DD Central
Cynical is a hobby not a lifestyle
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 616
|
Post by dave4 on Jul 23, 2024 8:57:18 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised, but good on you for trying. As a cost saving measure for the Govt to consider... Why not disband all regulators and let firms do whatever they want? Took the words out my mouth.
|
|
duck
Member of DD Central
Posts: 2,864
Likes: 6,892
|
Post by duck on Jul 23, 2024 9:17:18 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised, but good on you for trying. As a cost saving measure for the Govt to consider... Why not disband all regulators and let firms do whatever they want? Not my complaint, I monitor all the FRCCs rulings to find anything relevant to Col or other P2P platforms.
|
|
rscal
Posts: 985
Likes: 537
|
Post by rscal on Jul 23, 2024 13:02:05 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised, but good on you for trying. As a cost saving measure for the Govt to consider... Why not disband all regulators and let firms do whatever they want? Not my complaint, I monitor all the FRCCs rulings to find anything relevant to Col or other P2P platforms. Yeah, it didn't read like something you would have asked about - or would have expressed it. But what struck me is the reply is worded suspiciously like an FOS construction: This includes a non-sequitur: BECAUSE it was the 'best option' [explaining, BECAUSE the firm said it was] BECAUSE (ns) it 'enabled MORE recovery'. This is EXACTLY what the FOS has concluded - like both public bodies were almost quoting from the same company handouts
|
|