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Post by keitha on Mar 19, 2023 18:48:37 GMT
That Guardian earnings graph shows that the public sector are consistently paid better than the private sector by approx £70-£80 per week. They also of course get enrolled in a far superior pension scheme. Doesn't exactly sound disastrous to me. And don't forget far better job security. When was the last time a public sector employee lost their job because their employer went bust? Quite a lot made redundant as things change, how many data entry clerks now, and many councils have outsourced functions and that has then lead to redundancies
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Post by daveb on Mar 19, 2023 20:46:30 GMT
"That's against RPI for propaganda purposes, normal ONS calculations are against CPI."
Bear in mind those junior doctors with massive student loads are seeing them rise at RPI not CPI If unions are seen as trying it on to quote comparisons against RPI then it's the goverment's fault for using CPI when it comes to the governemnt paying out and RPI when it's people paying HMG.
I hope the junior docs get a big rise even if not the RPI correction they've asked for.
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 19, 2023 21:13:01 GMT
"That's against RPI for propaganda purposes, normal ONS calculations are against CPI."
Bear in mind those junior doctors with massive student loads are seeing them rise at RPI not CPI If unions are seen as trying it on to quote comparisons against RPI then it's the goverment's fault for using CPI when it comes to the governemnt paying out and RPI when it's people paying HMG.
I hope the junior docs get a big rise even if not the RPI correction they've asked for.
True, except the govt capped the rise at 6.9% ... below RPI & CPI
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Post by IFISAcava on Mar 19, 2023 21:42:14 GMT
"That's against RPI for propaganda purposes, normal ONS calculations are against CPI."
Bear in mind those junior doctors with massive student loads are seeing them rise at RPI not CPI If unions are seen as trying it on to quote comparisons against RPI then it's the goverment's fault for using CPI when it comes to the governemnt paying out and RPI when it's people paying HMG.
I hope the junior docs get a big rise even if not the RPI correction they've asked for.
True, except the govt capped the rise at 6.9% ... below RPI & CPI for one year, then it goes back to 3% above RPI
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Post by overthehill on Apr 25, 2024 13:44:56 GMT
If you're thinking of voting for Labour expect a milder version of this, that's what they always do. If charismatic Keir has a stroke or gets depressed or has an affair and has to resign then we get a Putin sympathizer running the country.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 25, 2024 21:38:27 GMT
If charismatic Keir has a stroke or gets depressed or has an affair and has to resign then we get a Putin sympathizer running the country. Sorry, Farridge would be Labour deputy PM?
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Post by michaelc on Apr 25, 2024 22:13:14 GMT
If you're thinking of voting for Labour expect a milder version of this, that's what they always do. If charismatic Keir has a stroke or gets depressed or has an affair and has to resign then we get a Putin sympathizer running the country.
What we'll get is having to pay for hundreds of thousands of box houses built in place of the green belt. Labour voting city dwellers won't notice the difference so its perfect (for Labour)
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Post by overthehill on Apr 26, 2024 11:27:56 GMT
If charismatic Keir has a stroke or gets depressed or has an affair and has to resign then we get a Putin sympathizer running the country. Sorry, Farridge would be Labour deputy PM? Is that a mis-spelling of Farage or someone in the Labour party, serious question. I thought it would be the woman who kept crossing her legs in front of Boris triggering his downfall.
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Post by ilmoro on Apr 26, 2024 11:29:46 GMT
Sorry, Farridge would be Labour deputy PM? Is that a mis-spelling of Farage or someone in the Labour party, serious question. I thought it would be the woman who kept crossing her legs in front of Boris triggering his downfall. Angela 'two homes' Rayner ... not sure she will be in role by GE.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 26, 2024 11:47:18 GMT
Is that a mis-spelling of Farage or someone in the Labour party, serious question. I thought it would be the woman who kept crossing her legs in front of Boris triggering his downfall. Angela 'two homes' Rayner ... not sure she will be in role by GE. It's astonishing how much traction something so trivial has gained - along with the sheer hypocrisy of the Tories on this. Rayner *might* owe ~£1,500 of CGT from selling her former home after she got married. Meanwhile, it's only just over a year since Nadim Zahawi (formerly both party chair and Chancellor of the Exchequer) paid a 30% penalty on top of back tax, a total estimated to be nearly five million quid, to settle a dispute with HMRC over deliberate CGT evasion from funnelling YouGov share sales through an offshore trust. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-settlement-penalty-hmrc-b2266163.htmlIt's the exact same playbook as the "beergate" non-event being hyped to deflect from the Downing Street piss-ups.
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Post by ilmoro on Apr 26, 2024 12:12:43 GMT
Angela 'two homes' Rayner ... not sure she will be in role by GE. It's astonishing how much traction something so trivial has gained - along with the sheer hypocrisy of the Tories on this. Rayner *might* owe ~£1,500 of CGT from selling her former home after she got married. Meanwhile, it's only just over a year since Nadim Zahawi (formerly both party chair and Chancellor of the Exchequer) paid a 30% penalty on top of back tax, a total estimated to be nearly five million quid, to settle a dispute with HMRC over deliberate CGT evasion from funnelling YouGov share sales through an offshore trust. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-settlement-penalty-hmrc-b2266163.htmlIt's the exact same playbook as the "beergate" non-event being hyped to deflect from the Downing Street piss-ups. Indeed ... allegations of fraud by politicians should be ignored same as they seem to be in the P2P world. It is indeed consistent with the standard political playbook ... just waiting for 'good day to bury bad news'
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 26, 2024 12:36:12 GMT
Angela 'two homes' Rayner ... not sure she will be in role by GE. It's astonishing how much traction something so trivial has gained - along with the sheer hypocrisy of the Tories on this. Rayner *might* owe ~£1,500 of CGT from selling her former home after she got married. Meanwhile, it's only just over a year since Nadim Zahawi (formerly both party chair and Chancellor of the Exchequer) paid a 30% penalty on top of back tax, a total estimated to be nearly five million quid, to settle a dispute with HMRC over deliberate CGT evasion from funnelling YouGov share sales through an offshore trust. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-settlement-penalty-hmrc-b2266163.htmlIt's the exact same playbook as the "beergate" non-event being hyped to deflect from the Downing Street piss-ups. well lets see. IF she had simply neglected to pay capital gains tax (which may or may not be due) on the sale of what had been her primary residence prior to some time before she sold it, then I think most people - certainly this one - would look past it. One can have a reasonable interpretation on it that she simply wasn't aware of the rules re. primary and non-primary residence, or misunderstood them, or thought that she had no net gain on which tax would be due. If on the other hand she has broken electoral rules by registering to vote where she should not have been, and that helped to back up a story of it remaining her primary residence, and she has been lying about whether she was in fact using it as her primary residence in order to sustain her story, then that is a different ex-council house of fish entirely. 'Cos that is about personal standards of integrity/honesty/decency, living by the rules that are set. Which I'd like to think are important, especially in politicians. And which I thought you thought were important in relation to the mob we currently have in power. Why is the fact that someone else has fallen foul of tax rules - albeit it was never stated that he was deliberately avoiding tax - got to do with excusing her. the quantum is almost - but not entirely - irrelevant. In fact, one could postulate that as Nadhim's was - IIRC - not considered to be fraudulent, whereas it is increasingly looking like Rayner's might be, that the latter is in fact worse than the first. Just different in scale.
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Post by rscal on Apr 26, 2024 14:51:45 GMT
Corruption in politics seems to be one of those things which is gradually increasing (going on unchecked etc) until it can't anymore (a 'cliff' .. a 'revolution' .. a system collapse .. our old friend the Black Swan™)
T'was ever thus. They are just waiting to be put out of their misery.
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Post by michaelc on Apr 26, 2024 14:56:46 GMT
To me it shows what a mess the tax system is in. Needs vastly simplifying.
I suspect Angela's problem is not so much she broke some rules some years ago when as a lawmaker she ought to conduct her own affairs to the highest standard. No I don't think that's it. Its that she is representing some of the poorest people in the country - they probably don't like to see her talking about which house she was living in. Of course the Tories are often far, far wealthier but they represent different interests.
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Post by adrianc on Apr 26, 2024 15:19:35 GMT
If on the other hand she has broken electoral rules by registering to vote where she should not have been Strange how that didn't pop up at all until the "but tax!" story had started to die down. Lord Ashcroft (former Tory vice-chair) broke the story at the start of March in a serialisation of his biog of her. A local (wall seat) Tory MP introduced the registration as a way to get the police to re-open the closed investigation, in mid April. Only HMRC and Zahawi know for sure, but the penalty is understood to be 30% - which would be RIGHT AT THE VERY top of "inadvertent error", but low-to-mid-range for "deliberate evasion". Not that you can "inadvertently" channel a share sale through a Gibraltarian trust... The investigation into his tax affairs included the Serious Fraud Office and the National Crime Agency's International Crime Unit, came to the attention of the government when the Cabinet Office raised questions on his appointment as chancellor, then only became public later when a journo submitted an FoI to ask if any ministers were under tax investigation.
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