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Post by captainconfident on Jun 12, 2024 18:19:01 GMT
I really wish there would be a hung parliament and not an outright Labour win. I had a look at the main points of the Lib Dem manifesto and it would be a good underpinning of a more representative and fairer country. I would prefer them in coalition, giving Labour a steer. Labour will of course win a landslide with 40%+ of the vote but not a majority of those voting.
The constituency I vote in there is a good sitting Labour MP who will win with a comfortable majority. I would vote for another party but there is no point. Because of FPTP, votes for anyone but the winning MP are not counted. For the first time, I will not voting in this election. You can call my not voting a vote against the electoral system.
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Post by travolta on Jun 12, 2024 19:18:54 GMT
Never had TV, still don't.
Read secondhand newspapers.
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Laptop stuck together with masking tape.
No mob signal.
November,
No, hang on , its June.....
I'm a floating voter, any suggestions.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 12, 2024 19:36:05 GMT
I really wish there would be a hung parliament and not an outright Labour win. I had a look at the main points of the Lib Dem manifesto and it would be a good underpinning of a more representative and fairer country. I would prefer them in coalition, giving Labour a steer. Labour will of course win a landslide with 40%+ of the vote but not a majority of those voting. But you're used to a democracy where opposing parties (mostly) work together, instead of just shouting like toddlers at each other. They ARE counted... There just aren't as many of them as there are for the more popular candidate. Now, whether that candidate has an outright majority of the entire electorate, rather than just those who bothered to turn up and express a preference, is a different question. And, you have to admit, one relevant to your decision.
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Post by keitha on Jun 12, 2024 19:39:46 GMT
The constituency I vote in there is a good sitting Labour MP who will win with a comfortable majority. I would vote for another party but there is no point. Because of FPTP, votes for anyone but the winning MP are not counted. For the first time, I will not voting in this election. You can call my not voting a vote against the electoral system. I have a terrible Labour MP who will win comfortably, one problem being that many here vote on family lines, my grandparents voted Labour, my parents vote Labour, so I must vote Labour. It feels as if some have no ability to think for themselves. All votes are counted, what you don't have without system is any form of PR, technically Labour could win 600 seats with a total majority of 600. it is also possible for a candidate to win with say 33% of the votes cast, and 33% of the electorate voting.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 12, 2024 19:46:13 GMT
I really wish there would be a hung parliament and not an outright Labour win. I had a look at the main points of the Lib Dem manifesto and it would be a good underpinning of a more representative and fairer country. I would prefer them in coalition, giving Labour a steer. Labour will of course win a landslide with 40%+ of the vote but not a majority of those voting. The constituency I vote in there is a good sitting Labour MP who will win with a comfortable majority. I would vote for another party but there is no point. Because of FPTP, votes for anyone but the winning MP are not counted. For the first time, I will not voting in this election. You can call my not voting a vote against the electoral system. To be honest, I'd probably be ok with either LibDems or even Greens if it wasn't for all the pandering to one tiny, weeny miniscule sector of society that seems to have an enormous non-binary voice.
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Post by mogish on Jun 12, 2024 21:09:09 GMT
We also have a large percentage of younger voters who will either vote snp or more likely Labour " cos my dad and grandad did".
The last time I was working at a polling station the younger voters asked where is x party,no idea of candidate , or which box do I tick, or the best one... I'm not using the supplied pencil as you will change it when I leave!!
God help us.
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Post by keitha on Jun 13, 2024 9:08:16 GMT
We also have a large percentage of younger voters who will either vote snp or more likely Labour " cos my dad and grandad did". The last time I was working at a polling station the younger voters asked where is x party,no idea of candidate , or which box do I tick, or the best one... I'm not using the supplied pencil as you will change it when I leave!! God help us. The idea of votes being changed seems to go back ages, my grandfather always took his own pen, I'm expecting a lot of spoilt ballots from younger people, as there is a belief that like the American primaries you can write in the name of your chosen candidate, or write "none of the above" which they claim forces a new ballot if it reaches a majority, Apparently one guy in America has changed his name to "Absolutely Anyone Else" and will be on the presidential ballot in several states
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Post by agent69 on Jun 13, 2024 13:56:22 GMT
MP and formed aide to the PM Craig Williams is being investigated by the Gambling Commission for allegedly placing a £100 bet on the next general election being in July. He placed the bet 3 days before the date was formally announced.
Despite claiming that he would be transparent in his dealings with the investigations, he has declined to comment on whether he had inside information about the date.
Thick or what?
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Post by benaj on Jun 13, 2024 14:14:16 GMT
😅 I wonder why the Gambling commission was involved? Has the bookmaker broken any rule accepting a bet? I thought GC doesn’t deal with gamblers.
The bookmaker could easily void his bet for sure.
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Post by keitha on Jun 13, 2024 14:34:49 GMT
😅 I wonder why the Gambling commission was involved? Has the bookmaker broken any rule accepting a bet? I thought GC doesn’t deal with gamblers. The bookmaker could easily void his bet for sure. So why have they not investigated football players advising family and friends to place a bet on them being booked in particular matches, or one I remember bet on the first throw in inside the first minute and the player concerned took the kick off and kicked the ball straight out of play
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Post by benaj on Jun 13, 2024 14:44:16 GMT
I am no expert in the law, the last time section 42 was tested in supreme court was a casino refusing to payout £7mil
Has the bookmaker being dishonest accepting his bet knowing it won’t be paid if he won? 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by adrianc on Jun 13, 2024 16:29:32 GMT
😅 I wonder why the Gambling commission was involved? Has the bookmaker broken any rule accepting a bet? I thought GC doesn’t deal with gamblers. The bookmaker could easily void his bet for sure. So why have they not investigated football players advising family and friends to place a bet on them being booked in particular matches, or one I remember bet on the first throw in inside the first minute and the player concerned took the kick off and kicked the ball straight out of play They... have. www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/24/betting-in-football-fa-rules-players-owners
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Post by toffeeboy on Jun 13, 2024 16:47:10 GMT
😅 I wonder why the Gambling commission was involved? Has the bookmaker broken any rule accepting a bet? I thought GC doesn’t deal with gamblers. The bookmaker could easily void his bet for sure. So why have they not investigated football players advising family and friends to place a bet on them being booked in particular matches, or one I remember bet on the first throw in inside the first minute and the player concerned took the kick off and kicked the ball straight out of play You're talking about Matt Le Tissier, he admitted it in his autobiography years later. It was investigated but I think because of the timeline and the fact that he failed to make them win the bet then nothing was done about it. Ivan Toney has just returned from a ban for betting on football, he is the highest profile person to be charged but that is him gambling himself on games that his team wasn't involved in. Lucas Paqueta is being investigated for 5 yellow cards he picked over the past few years but it is very hard to prove that something was done deliberately. Unless like David Beckham you come out and say you got booked deliberately but that wasn't to do with gambling There used to be lots of reports of fixings in other smaller leagues, India in particular if I remember correctly. The risks are too great anyone with the ability to be on the pitch in the top leagues in the world.
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Post by benaj on Jun 13, 2024 16:52:28 GMT
but was the gambling commission involved in those footballer cases?
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Post by toffeeboy on Jun 13, 2024 17:05:02 GMT
but was the gambling commission involved in those footballer cases? Ivan Toney I doubt it as he just bet on football which breaks professional rules not gambling ones. He wasn't cheating to make a profit jsut betting on football like a lot of people do. I believe the crack down in smaller leagues comes from the gambling commission who recognise irregular gambling patterns. The Lucas Paqueta incident I am sure will be investigated by them as it is claimed that he got booked so others could win
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