mogish
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Post by mogish on Jun 14, 2024 16:36:46 GMT
Snp 36k? Sounds like mother in law sold the campervan
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Post by mostlywrong on Jun 14, 2024 17:23:24 GMT
I seem to remember that around the year 2000 someone did a comparison between the movements of the FTSE and the political party in power. Do not ask me who it was or when, it is just something that stuck in my mind. The conclusion was that there were bigger rises when Labour was in power. Maybe something to do with infation also rising. I do not think, or I cannot remember if inflation was compared with the FTSE rise during the Labour rule, but the conclusion was that as far as the Stock Exchange was concerned there was nothing to fear about a Labour Government.
It was 20 or 30 years ago, I can now barely remember what I had for Breakfast!
As it happens, AJ Bell has answered the question:
I think that shows that the Prime Minister of the day needs a lot of luck on their side!
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Post by benaj on Jun 14, 2024 17:37:44 GMT
interesting.
(9.0%) capital return when labour wins during the term. I suppose BJ/LZ/RS has already done better than May.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jun 14, 2024 18:22:39 GMT
Personally I hope Tories come in third*. They are basically a liability to the country for various reasons and I will vote for either Labour or Reform (depending on the polling) to help make this happen.
*- They should change their Name from "the Conservative Party" to "the Con Party" so people know what they are voting for
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Post by mostlywrong on Jun 14, 2024 18:30:50 GMT
interesting. (9.0%) capital return when labour wins during the term. I suppose BJ/LZ/RS has already done better than May. Reading through the details, it has occurred to me that the absence of any adjustment for inflation and income probably invalidates the article.
Mrs Thatcher served for 11 years. High inflation at the start and then lower later. An impressive return but...?
Mr Wilson served for 10 years with an interregnum. Is it fair to Mr Wilson that the damage caused by Mr Heath has knocked him down the league table?
Or John Major, for example, who presided, courtesy of Mrs Thatcher, over a Goldilocks' period.
And back to Mr Heath who is 5th in that league table. I was not old enough (or wise enough) to invest during that period but I remember the shock and horror of the day as the FT-30 halved and then halved again. 4 pay rises per annum in 1974, wasn't it? I will try and find my payslips.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 15, 2024 7:59:24 GMT
Personally I hope Tories come in third*. They are basically a liability to the country for various reasons and I will vote for either Labour or Reform (depending on the polling) to help make this happen. I presume you mean the polling within your seat to remove a safe Tory.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jun 15, 2024 8:54:21 GMT
Personally I hope Tories come in third*. They are basically a liability to the country for various reasons and I will vote for either Labour or Reform (depending on the polling) to help make this happen. I presume you mean the polling within your seat to remove a safe Tory. That is correct I will vote for the party that is most likely to remove the local Tory MP. I have also told my wife and my gardener to do the same.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 15, 2024 9:14:59 GMT
I presume you mean the polling within your seat to remove a safe Tory. That is correct I will vote for the party that is most likely to remove the local Tory MP. I have also told my wife and my gardener to do the same. I'd be happy with tactically splitting the right-wing vote between RefUK and Tory. I'd hate to have a Farrigista as my MP.
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Post by angrysaveruk on Jun 15, 2024 9:45:21 GMT
That is correct I will vote for the party that is most likely to remove the local Tory MP. I have also told my wife and my gardener to do the same. I'd be happy with tactically splitting the right-wing vote between RefUK and Tory. I'd hate to have a Farrigista as my MP. There is very little difference between the Starmer and Sunak government. My main objection to the Tories is they are more corrupt and blackmailable than Labour - hence more likely to get us into a direct conflict with Russia.
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Post by registerme on Jun 15, 2024 10:41:22 GMT
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Post by keitha on Jun 15, 2024 10:56:11 GMT
adrianc thats the FA investigating players not the gambling commission, and the punishments have been by the FA not the GC.
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Post by keitha on Jun 15, 2024 11:01:34 GMT
No, they have lots of local people who are willing to stand. They just don't have enough support to actually be elected... But why are they willing to stand if there’s a great chance losing £500? Some years ago a pub landlord ( no not Al Murray ) stood, for the simple reason that his £500 deposit got him a free mailing to every house in the consituency, it was cheaper that having leaflets for his pub delivered by hand. So yes standing for election can be cheap advertising
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 15, 2024 12:53:49 GMT
But why are they willing to stand if there’s a great chance losing £500? Some years ago a pub landlord ( no not Al Murray ) stood, for the simple reason that his £500 deposit got him a free mailing to every house in the consituency, it was cheaper that having leaflets for his pub delivered by hand. So yes standing for election can be cheap advertising Now that is what I call smart. Talking of which, I went to see Al Murray a few weeks back. Probably my 3rd time in total over a very long period. He is still very good.
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 15, 2024 16:44:50 GMT
I'd be happy with tactically splitting the right-wing vote between RefUK and Tory. I'd hate to have a Farrigista as my MP. There is very little difference between the Starmer and Sunak government. My main objection to the Tories is they are more corrupt and blackmailable than Labour - hence more likely to get us into a direct conflict with Russia. If we had a modern voting system, we could all select the candidate we thought best and have our vote count for something rather than voting for or against the party that won our constituency last time. Even simple preference voting would enable this. But as David Cameron argued, everyone understands a cross in a box. Putting 1,2and 3 in the boxes might confuse older people.
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 15, 2024 17:04:42 GMT
Some years ago a pub landlord ( no not Al Murray ) stood, for the simple reason that his £500 deposit got him a free mailing to every house in the consituency, it was cheaper that having leaflets for his pub delivered by hand. So yes standing for election can be cheap advertising Now that is what I call smart. Talking of which, I went to see Al Murray a few weeks back. Probably my 3rd time in total over a very long period. He is still very good. I ve been friends for donkeys years with the owner of the Ramsgate Brewery, and I remember, Farage came to stand in Thanet, and it was only a matter of time, there was the old dog whistler in his campaign photos drinking from a pint clearly labelled 'Ramsgate Brewery'. Righteously indignant and as a fund raiser for Al Murray, the brewery hit back with Pub Landlord beer. In fact, here it is.. gaddsbeershop.blogspot.com/2015/05/beautiful-british-bitter.html
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