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Post by benaj on Jan 31, 2023 17:54:08 GMT
Not all schools in Eton are expensive, there's a primary school named after French Master, Mark Antony Porny, @ Eton, E*** Porny School.  It could have been called Pyron ... |
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Post by travolta on Jan 31, 2023 18:09:24 GMT
A tired highways operative explained to a massed meeting in my village hall that the potholes were not repaired because 89% of the annual budget was earmarked for the Youth and Elderly . Tant pis! Repairing pot holes is a bit of a fire fighting exercise. In an ideal world they would cut the sides back to solid tarmac and repair them properly. However, it is far quicker and cheaper to just put a bucket of tarmac into the hole and pat it down. End result is that you'll be back in a couple of years to repair it again. Highways held the meeting because the main road between us and civilisation had disappeared in a landslip two years ago . A narrow pass was governed by traffic lights . When a' Happy Birthday I'm 2' balloon appeared on the lights (and on Midland Today)' The Man' came to apologise and promised to do better . The road was repaired and drains were inexpertly laid . It will collapse again ,without doubt. This is the problem ....the workforce are cr@p and unaccountable. Product of insufficient education dating back to years of wooly rhetoric that failed to teach students how to apply themselves to.....well.... anything. Teach your children well (yourselves).
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 31, 2023 18:35:48 GMT
Not all schools in Eton are expensive, there's a primary school named after French Master, Mark Antony Porny, @ Eton, E*** Porny School. It could have been called Pyron ... Yes I cycle past there from time to time. Always brings out a smile and a childish giggle and a WTH did they do that for....
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Post by mogish on Jan 31, 2023 20:00:59 GMT
A tired highways operative explained to a massed meeting in my village hall that the potholes were not repaired because 89% of the annual budget was earmarked for the Youth and Elderly . Tant pis! most pot holes are not repaired because they are not reported and most councils don't employ people to look for them, repairs are dirt cheap and easy to do, but if people don't tell the council then nothing happens People do report them but there are so many by the time action is taken and a yellow mark painted round them, the appointed contractors fix the yellow marked ones and leave the "unreported" ones! And on it goes. I wonder how many motorcyclists or cyclists have been injured or worse hitting these holes in the dark? Cheaper to pay out claims than fix them? Surely not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 22:58:10 GMT
In West Yorkshire, you report it and two nights later a guy comes out with a truck, slings black stuff in the hole and drives a truck over it, done. No yellow paint, no subcontracting process. Just fill the hole. There is also a CUK website called something like "fillthathole" that sends all details to the correct council www.fillthathole.org.uk/ |
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Post by travolta on Jan 31, 2023 23:14:33 GMT
In West Yorkshire, you report it and two nights later a guy comes out with a truck, slings black stuff in the hole and drives a truck over it, done. No yellow paint, no subcontracting process. Just fill the hole. There is also a CUK website called something like "fillthathole" that sends all details to the correct council www.fillthathole.org.uk/The problem is that these repairs are poorly excuted in many cases. They shouldbe sealed off around the edges . Very few are and start disintegrating almost as soon as they are completed. Also the potholes reoccur,regularly,in the same old places ,usually where tractors pull out and turn and scour the same area. We had over 100 yards of new tarmac totally ruined by a muppet who forgot to lift up his attachment as he left his field and this happened the VERY NEXT DAY . I'd hammer farmer's road tax for heavy machinery damage .(They don't actually pay any at all.) Don't fall for the 'poor farmers' sob story . I'm in an area of 'poor hill farmers' yet every one still feels they have to lease a brand new ranger rover to keep up with the Jones (Prices ,Williams ,Morrisses... thats it ...there's not enough surnames around here .)
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 1, 2023 8:14:28 GMT
In West Yorkshire, you report it and two nights later a guy comes out with a truck, slings black stuff in the hole and drives a truck over it, done. No yellow paint, no subcontracting process. Just fill the hole. There is also a CUK website called something like "fillthathole" that sends all details to the correct council www.fillthathole.org.uk/I believe they are required to have a "policy" (well no surprise there then) detailing how frequently/regularly roads are proacticely checked for damage. As a car owner, I understand your grounds for claim on the council in the result of Actual Bodily Harm by Pothole is if a) it has been reported to the council and not fixed (presumably within a specified time frame or b) the checks on that road have been out of their policy [which in turn I'm sure must follow some form of minimum national guideline]. The only reason I purport to know* anything on this subject is that I lost 3 tryes in the space of 10 days across 2 different incidents on roads within completely different council boundaries. One of which required me to get a recovery vehicle. Despite my rather substantial costs, after crying into a beer I decided I couldn't be a***d to make a claim. I probably should have tried my hand: my tyres are not cheap. */=definitely know what I'm talking about
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 9:29:19 GMT
In West Yorkshire, you report it and two nights later a guy comes out with a truck, slings black stuff in the hole and drives a truck over it, done. No yellow paint, no subcontracting process. Just fill the hole. There is also a CUK website called something like "fillthathole" that sends all details to the correct council www.fillthathole.org.uk/I believe they are required to have a "policy" (well no surprise there then) detailing how frequently/regularly roads are proacticely checked for damage. As a car owner, I understand your grounds for claim on the council in the result of Actual Bodily Harm by Pothole is if a) it has been reported to the council and not fixed (presumably within a specified time frame or b) the checks on that road have been out of their policy [which in turn I'm sure must follow some form of minimum national guideline]. The only reason I purport to know* anything on this subject is that I lost 3 tryes in the space of 10 days across 2 different incidents on roads within completely different council boundaries. One of which required me to get a recovery vehicle. Despite my rather substantial costs, after crying into a beer I decided I couldn't be a***d to make a claim. I probably should have tried my hand: my tyres are not cheap. */=definitely know what I'm talking about As a parish councillor... The timeframes are dependent on the category of the road. Both for frequency of inspection, and for speed of repair once inspected. Our locality steward - the guy who goes round doing regular inspections and logging issues - is superb. He covers about a quarter of the county, and knows every lane and every pothole backwards. He is as frustrated as we are. And he's employed by the council's roads contractor... It's got to the point round here where I'm actively encouraging residents to claim for everything, because it's the only way the county council will repair some really quite bad stuff that they've known about for years. There are, of course, inherent problems that mean it's rarely that simple... Where the problem is just the very top surface, there's not enough depth for a repair to properly bond, so it won't last long. Where a pothole appears in winter (which they do - water ingress and freeze/thaw cycles), you can't properly repair them. Where there's a bad stretch, it probably makes more sense to resurface a whole stretch, but that's a different repair method/equipment/team. Then there's the structural issues - where just tickling the surface is pointless, because the problem's beneath it. Basically, there are HUGE backlogs of maintenance, and - of course - you leave things, they get worse. It's all because they're so damn cash-starved, after a decade and a half of central government "austerity". Our county council's central maintenance grant from Westminster dropped by LITERALLY 99% through the 2010s, from about two-thirds of a Band D household's council tax, to less than a tenner. And let's not forget that councils haven't been allowed to increase council tax by more than a roughly inflationary amount over that same time. Where's that shortfall come from?
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Post by benaj on Feb 1, 2023 9:40:42 GMT
Agreed, but sometimes being a minority living in a parish which only looks after the majority, not everything is done properly. It’s frustrating.
It’s like the fines do not applied to everyone, not the majority who live in the parish (which actually a minority in the entire county)
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 10:01:59 GMT
Agreed, but sometimes being a minority living in a parish which only looks after the majority, not everything is done properly. It’s frustrating. It’s like the fines do not applied to everyone, not the majority who live in the parish (which actually a minority in the entire county) Parish councils have VERY little actual power... About the only thing we can really decide ourselves is on spend and maintenance of parish assets (things like playgrounds, usually). Everything else - planning, roads - that people THINK is our problem is just us shouting at the local authority and not really being listened to. There really shouldn't be a "them and us" - but there definitely often is. We're lucky here, we don't have one. But... Ultimately, the only answer is to stick your hand up to be a parish councillor. It's usually a case of "finding somebody willing" rather than actually having a surfeit so an election.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 10:18:56 GMT
if you want more money in the county bucket, you have to earn more money
To earn more money you have to have better education and to praise people who make more money
So perhaps all this "bloody bankers" should stop (NB not a banker, but sick and tired of people being pulled down if they dare to stand out)
So perhaps no more proundly saying "I'm no good with numbers" (latest Apprentice show again has an expectation that amongst 15 so-called super business men/women it is acceptable that not all of them cannot do basic maths) see recent inability to order enough fish for bao buns!
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Post by Greenwood2 on Feb 1, 2023 10:19:12 GMT
most pot holes are not repaired because they are not reported and most councils don't employ people to look for them, repairs are dirt cheap and easy to do, but if people don't tell the council then nothing happens People do report them but there are so many by the time action is taken and a yellow mark painted round them, the appointed contractors fix the yellow marked ones and leave the "unreported" ones! And on it goes. I wonder how many motorcyclists or cyclists have been injured or worse hitting these holes in the dark? Cheaper to pay out claims than fix them? Surely not. We hit a huge pot hole in the dark and damaged a wheel, went back the next day to take a picture to complain to the council and it had miraculously been fixed!
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Post by keitha on Feb 1, 2023 10:40:48 GMT
The problem is that these repairs are poorly excuted in many cases. They shouldbe sealed off around the edges . Very few are and start disintegrating almost as soon as they are completed. Also the potholes reoccur,regularly,in the same old places ,usually where tractors pull out and turn and scour the same area. We had over 100 yards of new tarmac totally ruined by a muppet who forgot to lift up his attachment as he left his field and this happened the VERY NEXT DAY . I'd hammer farmer's road tax for heavy machinery damage .(They don't actually pay any at all.) Don't fall for the 'poor farmers' sob story . I'm in an area of 'poor hill farmers' yet every one still feels they have to lease a brand new ranger rover to keep up with the Jones (Prices ,Williams ,Morrisses... thats it ...there's not enough surnames around here .) lol I read one on an American Farmer who didn't lift a plough and ploughed several miles of road look up Sennedd / council members round here Andrew RT Davies, Andrew TC Davies etc, not only do we have a shortage of surnames it's first names too. in our village we have 3 William Williams, known as "double Bill" "double Bill junior" and "Williams the Shop"
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 10:48:49 GMT
...(latest Apprentice show again has an expectation that...
Yeh, I'm not sure you can base any extrapolations on reality TV...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 10:52:52 GMT
not extrapolations, but general acceptance and normalisation,
even Sugar said "she had told you she was not so hot with numbers" rather than "she is a stupid idiot who who shouldn't be on my programme at all" which would have been a more honest answer
normalisation of ignorance is one of the things that makes this country poor
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