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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 1, 2023 12:48:34 GMT
if you want more money in the county bucket, you have to earn more money
To earn more money you have to have better education and to praise people who make more money
So perhaps all this "bloody bankers" should stop (NB not a banker, but sick and tired of people being pulled down if they dare to stand out)
So perhaps no more proundly saying "I'm no good with numbers" (latest Apprentice show again has an expectation that amongst 15 so-called super business men/women it is acceptable that not all of them cannot can do basic maths) see recent inability to order enough fish for bao buns!
There fixed it for you. Illiteracy is also a common problem (I jest of course).
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Post by michaelc on Feb 1, 2023 13:55:23 GMT
Agreed, but sometimes being a minority living in a parish which only looks after the majority, not everything is done properly. It’s frustrating. It’s like the fines do not applied to everyone, not the majority who live in the parish (which actually a minority in the entire county) Parish councils have VERY little actual power... About the only thing we can really decide ourselves is on spend and maintenance of parish assets (things like playgrounds, usually). Everything else - planning, roads - that people THINK is our problem is just us shouting at the local authority and not really being listened to. There really shouldn't be a "them and us" - but there definitely often is. We're lucky here, we don't have one. But... Ultimately, the only answer is to stick your hand up to be a parish councillor. It's usually a case of "finding somebody willing" rather than actually having a surfeit so an election. But unless you're in a marginal seat (and even then still likely to have plenty of "colleagues") your council is likely controlled by your party so your shouting probably counts 5000 fold more than anyone else shouting. And if your setup is like ours, becoming a parish councillor is little more than paying £2 a month to the party and then suggesting standing..... You're going to tell me your an Indy now.  Actually, I wish all local politicians were independents.
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Post by keitha on Feb 1, 2023 14:04:14 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 14:21:58 GMT
Parish councils have VERY little actual power... About the only thing we can really decide ourselves is on spend and maintenance of parish assets (things like playgrounds, usually). Everything else - planning, roads - that people THINK is our problem is just us shouting at the local authority and not really being listened to. There really shouldn't be a "them and us" - but there definitely often is. We're lucky here, we don't have one. But... Ultimately, the only answer is to stick your hand up to be a parish councillor. It's usually a case of "finding somebody willing" rather than actually having a surfeit so an election. But unless you're in a marginal seat (and even then still likely to have plenty of "colleagues") your council is likely controlled by your party so your shouting probably counts 5000 fold more than anyone else shouting. And if your setup is like ours, becoming a parish councillor is little more than paying £2 a month to the party and then suggesting standing..... You're going to tell me your an Indy now. Actually, I wish all local politicians were independents. None of our parish councillors are party-linked in any way. I'm not a member of any party, and I have no idea if any of the others are - but I'd doubt it. It's certainly not ever an issue. As I say, "finding somebody willing" is the challenge. I don't even know when there was last a contested election. The county council is no-overall-control, independent majority since 2019 - after 16 years of Tory control, with the previous 3 as NOC but Tory majority... MP is solidly blue, 63% of the vote last time.
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Post by keitha on Feb 1, 2023 14:53:07 GMT
Some years ago we had an election for Parish and County Council at the same time.
the day after the election all the losing county council candidates who lived in my area were co-opted onto the council, and as a member of the public I do object to the Council having a Chaplain ( paid ) who leads prayers at the start of every meeting, hardly inclusive is it.
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 1, 2023 15:10:33 GMT
Some years ago we had an election for Parish and County Council at the same time. the day after the election all the losing county council candidates who lived in my area were co-opted onto the council, and as a member of the public I do object to the Council having a Chaplain ( paid ) who leads prayers at the start of every meeting, hardly inclusive is it. Bloody hell. If any of the members want to have prayers before a meeting, that's fine: but do it separately from the meeting and pay for the Chaplain themselves. I'd make a proper objection about that. Well probably not 'cos I probably couldn't be bothered, but there is a point of principle in play.
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Post by travolta on Feb 1, 2023 15:22:55 GMT
But unless you're in a marginal seat (and even then still likely to have plenty of "colleagues") your council is likely controlled by your party so your shouting probably counts 5000 fold more than anyone else shouting. And if your setup is like ours, becoming a parish councillor is little more than paying £2 a month to the party and then suggesting standing..... You're going to tell me your an Indy now. Actually, I wish all local politicians were independents. None of our parish councillors are party-linked in any way. I'm not a member of any party, and I have no idea if any of the others are - but I'd doubt it. It's certainly not ever an issue. As I say, "finding somebody willing" is the challenge. I don't even know when there was last a contested election. The county council is no-overall-control, independent majority since 2019 - after 16 years of Tory control, with the previous 3 as NOC but Tory majority... MP is solidly blue, 63% of the vote last time. I believethat your are in Herefordshire , The only thing that keeps us Shropshire peasants happy in driving south into Hereford over your DREADFUL roads . The Man from Keir mentioned this too . Words to the effect of saying ' You may think that you are bad but thank your God that you are not in Herefordshire')
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 16:39:18 GMT
Some years ago we had an election for Parish and County Council at the same time. If there's a contested election (more candidates than seats), then it would be the same day as local elections. But, unless there's more candidates, there won't be an election. A contested election costs the parish council several thousand quid... That makes no sense... If there was a contested PC (actually, in Wales, there aren't "parish councils" - they've been "community councils" since 1972) election, then there were no vacancies to co-opt anybody onto - unless some of the freshly-elected councillors then chose to stand down... in which case, why the chuffywossit did they stand and cause that expense? "Long-standing tradition" to have prayers was made explicitly legal by the government in 2015. www.gov.uk/government/news/eric-pickles-welcomes-council-prayers-lawwww.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/27/contents/enactedBut I agree - definitely not on imho either!
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Post by keitha on Feb 1, 2023 17:06:10 GMT
This was when I lived in England,
Parish council was uncontested, County contested, it was unsuccessful County candidates. who lived in the parish, who were co-opted onto the parish, always struck me as odd the public rejected them but they still get on the council
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Post by adrianc on Feb 1, 2023 17:18:02 GMT
This was when I lived in England, Parish council was uncontested, County contested, it was unsuccessful County candidates. who lived in the parish, who were co-opted onto the parish, always struck me as odd the public rejected them but they still get on the council Ah, gotcha. Of course, they could have been co-opted to the PC vacancies even before the county election, or after they'd won that... Nothing to stop 'em being both. Or MP.
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Post by keitha on Feb 1, 2023 17:23:52 GMT
I did always wonder why people couldn't do both.
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Post by martin44 on Mar 13, 2023 22:22:33 GMT
Labours lead down from 22% to 17%... the fightback is happening, and plenty of time to do it.
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Post by keitha on Mar 13, 2023 22:39:24 GMT
I still give the tories at least 10-1 to have most seats
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Post by markyg61 on Mar 14, 2023 8:53:17 GMT
I still give the tories at least 10-1 to have most seats I'll take that bet - £10 @ 10-1
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Post by adrianc on Mar 14, 2023 9:09:26 GMT
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Actually, I wish all local politicians were independents.
