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Post by ethel on Jul 4, 2024 17:05:02 GMT
I voted for the only person who actually canvassed door to door, who lives in the constituency, and actually seems to have a good grasp of local issues as well as national. He seems like a decent person, even if he is a Tory. I'm a bit surprised I did, but nobody else came close, literally.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 4, 2024 17:06:16 GMT
I could easily have voted for any one of three of the six candidates here. The incumbent is definitely not to my liking.
One is a total also-ran.
One did very little canvassing, has no posters up anywhere, and is way down in polling.
One has done a huge amount of canvassing, has posters everywhere around the constituency, and stands a serious chance of unseating the incumbent.
No-brainer. My fingers are firmly crossed.
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Post by mostlywrong on Jul 4, 2024 19:00:48 GMT
I have the beer in the 'fridge and popcorn in the bowl.
I am ready for anything... But, I reckon that, as usual, I will be bored by 1010hrs and in bed by half-ten.
Thinking about the last 6 weeks (and earlier), I am puzzled at the behaviour of the Tories after the last election. Mr Farage, apparently, stood down his Brexit Party so that the Tories, led by Mr Johnson, could beat Mr Corbyn. And that gave Mr Johnson an 80 seat majority (that he later squandered).
If that was the case, why did the Tories not acknowledge Mr Farage's support and elevate him to the peerage? It would have lanced the boil long before it threatened the life of the patient.
The Tories could also have made him the Minister for Brexit...
Instead, we have had years of Tory in-fighting and then months of the Tories warning us that a "super majority" for Sir Keir would lead to more fighting in the streets and the French police arresting British people on the beaches of Calais as they tried to immigrate to France. Although I might have imagined that last bit...
Dear Tories: that is something called "democracy". If you didn't like it, why didn't you change things when you had a super majority? A bit too busy arguing about the type of cake that should be served at parties, perhaps? Getting rid of FPTP voting and smoothing the 5 year political cycle would have been a huge step in the right direction.
For the record. Ever since he arrived on the political scene, I have thought that Sir Keir was a caretaker. His job was to get the Party from post-Corbyn to the brave new world that was New Labour Mark 2. I did not think that he was electable. And I was wrong.
But I don't think that he will survive. He seems to be a nice bloke in the mould of Mr Sunak. That nice Mr Sunak has been brought down by the snakes in his party and I think the same will happen to to Sir Keir. Different coloured snakes, perhaps, but venomous snakes all the same.
I wish Sir Keir a safe and successful voyage!
And I wish everyone else all the best as they try to navigate the tortuous rapids of the next 5 years.
But I still don't reckon that P2P lending will make a come-back. 
MW
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 4, 2024 21:03:19 GMT
Here we go then
Only 170 seat majority on exit poll
Only 10 for SNP, 13 for Reform
Sweepstake on how many times word of the moment gets used ... historic ...2 already
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Post by agent69 on Jul 4, 2024 21:04:34 GMT
SNP predicted to lose 33 of their 43 seats. Lib Dems to get 3 more than in 2010
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 4, 2024 21:06:54 GMT
So the exit polls are suggesting 13 seats for Reform. I'm surprised by that. I thought it was more likely to be 5 or less. Exit polls are generally pretty accurate. It would seem to reinforce the view that the size of the Reform vote is likely to have had a big effect on the number of Tory seats (i.e. much greater impact than simply the 13 they may have one).
I'm banking on being in bed by 22:30 as well. There is no knife edge. Just a morbid fascination on which major names have lost their seats.
EDIT: oh god, I'd forgotten that they wheeled out Jeremy Vine for elections. Bang on 22:30 as well.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 4, 2024 21:08:05 GMT
Here we go then Only 170 seat majority on exit poll Only 10 for SNP, 13 for Reform Sweepstake on how many times word of the moment gets used ... historic ...2 already are you watching the BBC ? If so, also keep track of which indefinite article is used to proceed it
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agent69
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Post by agent69 on Jul 4, 2024 21:10:52 GMT
Here we go then
Only 170 seat majority on exit poll7 less than teflon Tony in 1997.
I wonder how many seats the Conservatives would have got if Reform didn't stand.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 4, 2024 21:15:37 GMT
Meanwhile the rewards
Dame May
Lord Failing
Dame Coffey
Lord Brady
Sir Dowden
Sir Three Bets
Sir Wallace
Lord Robo MP
Lady Bekett
Lady Harman
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 4, 2024 21:21:49 GMT
Meanwhile the rewards Dame May Lord Failing Dame Coffey Lord Brady Sir Dowden Sir Three Bets Sir Wallace Lord Robo MP Lady Bekett Lady Harman Kier might knight farage for his help
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 4, 2024 21:34:05 GMT
Bizarely the BBC is predicting the Tories to keep all their Scottish seats ... even most vunerable
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Post by agent69 on Jul 4, 2024 21:36:57 GMT
Don't recall seeing much of David Lammy during the campaign, but he's straight back in front of the Sky cameras now.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 4, 2024 21:40:51 GMT
Looks like labour may have a lower percentage of the vote than 2019.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 4, 2024 21:56:41 GMT
Don't recall seeing much of David Lammy during the campaign, but he's straight back in front of the Sky cameras now. Considered gaffe prone so kept well away
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 4, 2024 22:09:33 GMT
Bizarely the BBC is predicting the Tories to keep all their Scottish seats ... even most vunerable are Reform fielding candidates in Scotland ? Even if they are, I would think that their anti EU/Europe heritage etc. is a far less attractive message in Scotland then in many English seats. So there has probably been far less bleeding of support from Tories to Reform. Not sure quite what the impact of bleeding of support from SNP is though. Perhaps they were second in many of those Tory seats, the votes have shifted to Labour, and the effect has been to rearrange the deckchairs on the also rans. Pure supposition of course.
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