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Post by adrianc on Jul 6, 2024 6:35:42 GMT
on Basildon, who did they declare for first time or we don't know ? According to that article a ballot paper from a neighbouring constituency got into the count. You'd think they'd be different colours at least. They didn't. They only give numbers (and name a winner) when it's official. Yeh, total bollock-drop, given that no papers should leave the polling centres. The most likely way it makes sense is an in-person drop of a postal vote. The other is cross-contamination between the two constituency counts in the same venue (Thurrock Civic Centre), which SHOULD be impossible. Both sides of my county are counted in the same place, the city leisure centre - that bit's not unusual. But they should be utterly separate... So it went Reform in the end - by 98 votes. I've seen some seats with majorities of 15 and 18 votes, and there seems to be a LOT of three-digit out there... "Reform leader Nigel Farage has congratulated James McMurdock further, sharing how he was a paper candidate "drafted in at the last minute"."Meanwhile, last week... Wasn't St Nige busy distancing himself from "paper candidates" that they couldn't possibly have been expected to vet, and it's no wonder there were some bad apples in with them...?
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Post by registerme on Jul 6, 2024 9:17:20 GMT
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Post by jonno on Jul 6, 2024 9:59:08 GMT
Too soon...?  I didn't realise Rayner had so many kids!
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Post by keitha on Jul 6, 2024 10:38:34 GMT
Fascinating result in Wales. FPTP can be a cruel mistress! - Labour's diminished poll of 37% still wins 27 Westminster seats of the 32 here.
- Cons 18% and Reform 17%, between them polling almost the same as Labour, win 0 seats.
- Plaid Cymru's 15% tally, lower than either Cons or Reform, still garners them 4 seats.
- LD's tiny 6.5% share, barely a third of the Cons vote or Reform vote, still manages to win them a seat.
Geographically, the Plaid win looks like they've taken a massive chunk of the map of Wales - at first glance it appears something approaching 50%. They're now bragging of a huge mandate (which is mostly imaginary of course). Look for lots of noise from Rhun ap Iorwerth, going forward. Like the Police forces in Wales just look at the area covered by Dyfed Powys right from the west tip through to the English border
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Post by keitha on Jul 6, 2024 10:50:33 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9x7dz79qyolist of areas with majorities < 100 Rumour has it that the Skye and west Ross-shire issue is that several hundred papers that were verified disappeared before being counted, and despite a search of the room couldn't be found
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Post by adrianc on Jul 6, 2024 11:05:33 GMT
Rumour has it that the Skye and west Ross-shire issue is that several hundred papers that were verified disappeared before being counted, and despite a search of the room couldn't be found SNP have conceded defeat, though, so it's one more for the LDs. The Welsh LD is right next door to me - Brecon, Radnor and Cwm Tawe. 2010-2015, LD. 2015-2019, Tory... who was then convicted of fraud, and recalled. 2019, briefly LD (with the convicted and recalled Tory having the chutzpah to stand again...!) 2019-2024, Tory - but she was not held in high regard. So no surprises *at all* which way that one went.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jul 6, 2024 11:19:34 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz9x7dz79qyolist of areas with majorities < 100 Rumour has it that the Skye and west Ross-shire issue is that several hundred papers that were verified disappeared before being counted, and despite a search of the room couldn't be found The Scots do seem prone to losing things. Political funds, motorhomes, football matches, and now voting papers....
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Post by michaelc on Jul 6, 2024 12:07:27 GMT
Michaelc wrote: "I'm just looking at that and thinking how the heck can any one person look after 6 kids."
At the risk of stepping in when I really should keep my nose well out...
Do you know that was a spoof based on a television character?
MW
haha - yes. It just got me thinking.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 6, 2024 12:16:13 GMT
Michaelc wrote: "I'm just looking at that and thinking how the heck can any one person look after 6 kids."
At the risk of stepping in when I really should keep my nose well out...
Do you know that was a spoof based on a television character?
MW
haha - yes. It just got me thinking. A friend (in his early 60s) was youngest of 11 kids, all brought up in basically a two-up-two-down on top of a hill. Not unusual roun' by 'yer.
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Post by agent69 on Jul 6, 2024 12:19:15 GMT
So only 20% of all those eligible to vote actually voted Labour.
Strange old world
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Post by keitha on Jul 6, 2024 13:25:57 GMT
haha - yes. It just got me thinking. A friend (in his early 60s) was youngest of 11 kids, all brought up in basically a two-up-two-down on top of a hill. Not unusual roun' by 'yer. dad was one of 8 raised in a 2 up 2 down, and I actually went in it before it was demolished and wondered just how 10 people fitted
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Post by michaelc on Jul 6, 2024 14:00:47 GMT
haha - yes. It just got me thinking. A friend (in his early 60s) was youngest of 11 kids, all brought up in basically a two-up-two-down on top of a hill. Not unusual roun' by 'yer. Can't understand how that's even possible (13 people) unless some of them are sleeping in the kitchen. They must have had a lot of help from grandmas's, aunties etc. And no, I won't wokerise that paragraph. 
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Post by keitha on Jul 7, 2024 9:42:23 GMT
In dads case the 2 eldest girls had gone out to work ( into service as they put it then) before the youngest was born .
but in those days top and tail in the same bed wasn't uncommon
In the 1921 census my house which I think is small had 4 Adults living in it, I assume Mum Dad and married daughter, but round here taking in lodgers was a thing even in 2 bed properties.
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Post by overthehill on Jul 17, 2024 18:04:35 GMT
Is this Kia Starmer's first U-turn ?
Bringing in digital ID cards
Zoe Kleinman
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Just 10 days ago, Labour firmly ruled out the possibility of a digital ID card scheme. And yet here it is in all but name.
The concept of a digital ID card was championed by former Labour PM Sir Tony Blair, and in 2010 his government got as far as actually issuing 15,000 cards – but the following year the scheme was scrapped under the coalition.
Supporters make many claims, ranging from it making the process of buying a house more straightforward to offering an easier way to manage immigration. But privacy campaigners say it amounts to an unnecessary collection of personal data by the state.
There are many details to be figured out. Where will this huge database be stored and how will it be protected? Will it be internationally recognised, and might it replace any traditional forms of ID? And will people be required to pay for it?
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Post by adrianc on Jul 17, 2024 19:35:48 GMT
Is this Kia Starmer's first U-turn ?
Bringing in digital ID cards
Zoe Kleinman
Technology editor
@zsk
Just 10 days ago, Labour firmly ruled out the possibility of a digital ID card scheme. And yet here it is in all but name.
The concept of a digital ID card was championed by former Labour PM Sir Tony Blair, and in 2010 his government got as far as actually issuing 15,000 cards – but the following year the scheme was scrapped under the coalition.
Supporters make many claims, ranging from it making the process of buying a house more straightforward to offering an easier way to manage immigration. But privacy campaigners say it amounts to an unnecessary collection of personal data by the state.
There are many details to be figured out. Where will this huge database be stored and how will it be protected? Will it be internationally recognised, and might it replace any traditional forms of ID? And will people be required to pay for it?
Well, hold on... All we know so far is that the Digital Information and Smart Data Bill is mentioned in the briefing notes, with a very short section about digital verification. "The Bill will harness the power of data for economic growth. We are giving a statutory footing to three innovative uses of data that people can choose to participate in and which will accelerate innovation, investment and productivity across the UK. This includes:
* establishing Digital Verification Services, which make people’s everyday lives easier through innovative and secure technology. These measures support the creation and adoption of secure and trusted digital identity products and services from certified providers to help with things like moving house, pre-employment checks, and buying age restricted goods and services."assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6697f5c10808eaf43b50d18e/The_King_s_Speech_2024_background_briefing_notes.pdfSounds to me something more like Authy or Google Auth. It doesn't even appear to have been mentioned in the speech itself. www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-kings-speech-2024The Beeb have updated the text of that article since you saw it, it seems... www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgklke3gpyo"Just 10 days ago, Labour firmly ruled out the possibility of a digital ID card scheme. So a mention in the speech of digital ID raised some eyebrows. The idea has been long championed by former Labour PM Sir Tony Blair.
We now know that what the King was referring to was existing digital ID services, provided by commercial companies, and potentially future new ones. The government has no plans to introduce one of its own, but it will be giving some sort of “trustmark” badge for those services that comply with data regulation.
It is unclear how these services will be funded, and how many there might end up being – but they will not be compulsory.
Digital ID is a controversial issue. Its supporters make many claims for the potential benefits, ranging from it making the process of buying a house more straightforward to offering an easier way to manage immigration. And its available in some other countries already. But privacy campaigners say it amounts to an unnecessary collection of personal data by the state."
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