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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 25, 2023 11:02:26 GMT
I simply fail to understand why you don't unplug the smart meter, send it back telling them it does not work and log on to your account and give them a meter reading. "Unplug the smart meter" I mean, what does that even mean ? WT* ? Tampering, let alone attempting to remove, your gas meter would a) be considerably dangerous b) I suspect would be at the very least an offence in civil law c) would be a really really stupid thing to do.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 25, 2023 11:03:48 GMT
removing the meter is dangerous,  Martin is talking BS! if you remove the gas meter you will get gas billowing into the house, if you remove an electricity meter you will be charged with stealing electricity. as you would effectively need to connect the incoming supply to the distribution board you do understand that a smart meter is NOT your actual meter? edit  its a device that monitors your energy usage... and probably your love life. how to say "I have no idea what I'm talking about" without saying "I have no idea what I'm talking about". 
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Post by keitha on Mar 25, 2023 11:50:01 GMT
he thinks the smart meter is the "actual" gas meter... I'm afraid the jokes on you martin44 . The smart meter IS the actual meter that's connected to your gas/electric supply. The gadget in your house is just a window into the smart meter's soul, known as the IHD (in house display). Thankyou ! someone who understands the reality, not what the foil hatted mob would have you believe
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Post by martin44 on Apr 2, 2023 21:51:36 GMT
you do understand that a smart meter is NOT your actual meter? edit its a device that monitors your energy usage... and probably your love life. how to say "I have no idea what I'm talking about" without saying "I have no idea what I'm talking about". Their are two distinct types of smart meter... a fixed meter, in which you can do nothing... the OP said he had pressed buttons but to no effect.. which suggests he may have this. www.edfenergy.com/smart-meters
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Post by keitha on Apr 3, 2023 10:08:22 GMT
that is not a smart meter, that in an in house display, it reads the smart meter and gives a display of usage.
for many people the big issue is that the tariff rate , standing charge etc is a PITA for the supplier to update, and despite being standard they aren't, so update tariff to "34397" will update meter 1 to £343.97 per kWh, meter to to 34.97P and meter 3 to 34.9p. which is where these horror stories in the papers of my Electricity bill is £5,000 a day come from.
I don't bother with the price I just look at the consumption figure, and whatever people say they don't save money, they just remind you how much electric you are using, which encourages you to save.
Smart meters do have buttons, it's how you get then to display readings, and most have manuals online. so for example my aclara electric meter hit button A and it wakes up then repeated tapping button A will scroll through the readings, Import, TOU1, TOU2,TOU3,TOU4 and export.
the NGESO turn down events this winter getting people to reduce consumption at certain times on a few days has been a very profitable exercise, I have rewards worth £118, for 13 events and National grid wanted me to do a diary of 2 events for which they would pay be £25 each. Only had 1 set of vouchers so far. but as I see it £118 credit plus the vouchers against my electric bill for minor changes is a very worthwhile reward.
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Post by bracknellboy on Apr 3, 2023 20:12:41 GMT
how to say "I have no idea what I'm talking about" without saying "I have no idea what I'm talking about". Their are two distinct types of smart meter... a fixed meter, in which you can do nothing... the OP said he had pressed buttons but to no effect.. which suggests he may have this. www.edfenergy.com/smart-metersuh no. That is a picture of an IHD. Not a Smart meter. An In house Display is just that. Its a 'remote' unit. It doesn't 'measure' anything, it just displays information. It has absolutely no way of 'measuring' your usage direclty, 'cos it isn't directly connect to your gas supply or indeed your electric (other than by way of being plugged in as a consumer). A smart meter is a meter....that is connected to your supply, an is connected over a (normally if not always dedicated) mobile network back to your supplier (via.....), making it 'Smart'. That also happens to talks to your IHD IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE. An IHD without a smart meter is .... dead. A Smart Meter without an IHD is still a Smart Meter. And yes, I also mentioned 'pressing buttons'. That's because a smart meter i.e. the BOX OUTSIDE often (mine does) has a couple of buttons on it that allow you to take direct readings off it WITHOUT HAVING AN IHD. Still, keep going. You were very derisory of the OP and others, and certain of your facts. And have now doubled down it would seem. If you want, I'm sure someone can take that spade out your hands and provide you with a JCB Backhoe instead 
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Post by adrianc on Apr 4, 2023 8:18:56 GMT
Their are two distinct types of smart meter... a fixed meter, in which you can do nothing... the OP said he had pressed buttons but to no effect.. which suggests he may have this. www.edfenergy.com/smart-metersuh no. That is a picture of an IHD. Not a Smart meter. An In house Display is just that. Its a 'remote' unit. It doesn't 'measure' anything, it just displays information. It has absolutely no way of 'measuring' your usage direclty, 'cos it isn't directly connect to your gas supply or indeed your electric (other than by way of being plugged in as a consumer). A smart meter is a meter....that is connected to your supply, an is connected over a (normally if not always dedicated) mobile network back to your supplier (via.....), making it 'Smart'. That also happens to talks to your IHD IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE. An IHD without a smart meter is .... dead. A Smart Meter without an IHD is still a Smart Meter. And yes, I also mentioned 'pressing buttons'. That's because a smart meter i.e. the BOX OUTSIDE often (mine does) has a couple of buttons on it that allow you to take direct readings off it WITHOUT HAVING AN IHD. Still, keep going. You were very derisory of the OP and others, and certain of your facts. And have now doubled down it would seem. If you want, I'm sure someone can take that spade out your hands and provide you with a JCB Backhoe instead That EDF page even says... "Smart meters come with a handy in-home display called an IHD.""Do I need to pay to have a smart meter installed?There is no upfront extra cost for the meter, or for the in-home display it comes with."...then links across to a page about the accessible IHD for those with sight loss... www.edfenergy.com/smart-meters/using-a-smart-meter/talking-geo-trio-display"The in-home display works with your smart meter to help you monitor your energy use, and what it costs....Each time the display is connecting to the smart meter it will give an audible notification, speak and show: 'Connecting to smart meter…' this can take up to five minutes."
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Post by registerme on Apr 4, 2023 9:21:19 GMT
I do have a smart meter (for gas).
I don't have a smart meter (for electricity).
I don't have an IHD.
My "Executive Resolution Specialist" hasn't got back to me in over a week.
I feel another email to the CEO coming on.
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Post by keitha on Apr 4, 2023 9:41:19 GMT
I do have a smart meter (for gas). I don't have a smart meter (for electricity). I don't have an IHD. My "Executive Resolution Specialist" hasn't got back to me in over a week. I feel another email to the CEO coming on. given you can't get the meter to "wake up" and display anything that seems reasonable. If you tell me the Make and model of the Meter I'll have a dig and see if I can find out how to read it. Seems stupid to fit a smart gas meter without a smart electric meter, as it will never be smart but if I remember correctly they are separated by quite a long distance. IHD wouldn't work without a smart electric meter. Basic version is the Electric meter has a comms hub on top of it that talks to the smart meter network so readings can go to the supplier the comms hub also has a zigbee network that gets readings from the gas meter and the sends them on, the same zigbee network sends data to the IHD so you can see the data
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Post by registerme on Apr 4, 2023 9:57:45 GMT
I do have a smart meter (for gas). I don't have a smart meter (for electricity). I don't have an IHD. My "Executive Resolution Specialist" hasn't got back to me in over a week. I feel another email to the CEO coming on. given you can't get the meter to "wake up" and display anything that seems reasonable. If you tell me the Make and model of the Meter I'll have a dig and see if I can find out how to read it. Seems stupid to fit a smart gas meter without a smart electric meter, as it will never be smart but if I remember correctly they are separated by quite a long distance. IHD wouldn't work without a smart electric meter. Basic version is the Electric meter has a comms hub on top of it that talks to the smart meter network so readings can go to the supplier the comms hub also has a zigbee network that gets readings from the gas meter and the sends them on, the same zigbee network sends data to the IHD so you can see the data Thanks keitha. Yeah, you're right, the electricity meter is 70ft away from my front door in a shed. The last time I spoke to EDF about it they said they couldn't do it. When I had the smart meter installed for the gas nobody said anything about a dependency on also having the electricity done too. So I am where I am :/. james100 helped me identify the model of the meter, and I now can get a reading out of it. It's just not a reading I can submit to SO Energy... So I'll just keep on plugging away at it.
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Post by benaj on Dec 15, 2023 9:24:29 GMT
I was about to asking for help.
It took me 3 years to realise my why my ear buds don’t have a physical button to switch off. I kept reading the manual and there’s no mention how to power off.
Tried the cat video platform and duckduckgoose resource on the net, nothing helped. No one mentioned how to switch off the things. I would have thought these would have switch off automatically after putting back in the case, but it didn’t work in the last few days.
My stupid work around is to disconnect the bluetooth connection but it doesn’t switch off the ear buds.
Anyway, I only found out this morning they switch off automatically when I put them back in the case. No idea why they didn’t work before, but it sounds complete bonkers to design something can’t be turned off without inserting them into the holes of the buddy.
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Martin is talking BS!
its a device that monitors your energy usage... and probably your love life. 
