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Post by ozboy on Jan 11, 2024 19:44:50 GMT
Our clinic is much the same. Hit or a miss on what service quality you get. 5 options to press before a long wait to get call answered by a disinterested teenager who either never listens or cuts you off. No one to complain to without fear of being barred and a different Gp if you are lucky enough to see one. The nurses are great though for routine jabs etc. A truly broken system . Today's disgraceful figures sum this up. No political party can fix it. This was happening way before covid. Fingers crossed it improves or a 2 tier system will surely develop. FAR too many people using the NHS who have paid fornication all towards it? Supply and Demand isn't it? And No Shows should definitely receive a hefty billing, as should Health Tourists.
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Post by moonraker on Jan 11, 2024 21:01:40 GMT
FAR too many people using the NHS who have paid fornication all towards it? I don't like to think what I've been costing the NHS this past year and that's after paying out of my own money for a heart op and two check-ups at £700 a time and to see a gastroenterologist (£660 for a blood test). Last year I had four or five consultations and five or six scans of different types with the NHS and have an appointment with an NHS haematologist that could last up to 70 minutes (which privately might cost £500). And I guess that my monthly NHS prescriptions are worth £60-70. It looks as if yearly check-ups are going to cost me £2000 privately, though at the moment one would be at a private hospital, two with the NHS. And I'm not including GP services.
Sure, I paid towards the NHS when I worked, and presumably some of my taxes still go towards it, but I'm one of those increasing numbers of old people who perhaps are now taking out more than we've put and are putting in. (And who knows what further calls I shall be making on the NHS as I age even more?)
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Post by overthehill on Jan 11, 2024 21:05:03 GMT
Our clinic is much the same. Hit or a miss on what service quality you get. 5 options to press before a long wait to get call answered by a disinterested teenager who either never listens or cuts you off. No one to complain to without fear of being barred and a different Gp if you are lucky enough to see one. The nurses are great though for routine jabs etc. A truly broken system . Today's disgraceful figures sum this up. No political party can fix it. This was happening way before covid. Fingers crossed it improves or a 2 tier system will surely develop. FAR too many people using the NHS who have paid fornication all towards it? Supply and Demand isn't it? And No Shows should definitely receive a hefty billing, as should Health Tourists.
Paid fornication ? Is this available on the NHS ? Seriously, I couldn't figure out what this means possibly because I haven't been following.
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I was surprised the term still covered such a range today...
"The term fornication would include incest, prostitution, lesbianism, homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia, and adultery"
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Post by agent69 on Jan 11, 2024 21:13:46 GMT
FAR too many people using the NHS who have paid fornication all towards it? I don't like to think what I've been costing the NHS this past year and that's after paying out of my own money for a heart op and two check-ups at £700 a time and to see a gastroenterologist (£660 for a blood test). Last year I had four or five consultations and five or six scans of different types with the NHS and have an appointment with an NHS haematologist that could last up to 70 minutes (which privately might cost £500). And I guess that my monthly NHS prescriptions are worth £60-70. It looks as if yearly check-ups are going to cost me £2000 privately, though at the moment one would be at a private hospital, two with the NHS. And I'm not including GP services.
Sure, I paid towards the NHS when I worked, and presumably some of my taxes still go towards it, but I'm one of those increasing numbers of old people who perhaps are now taking out more than we've put and are putting in. (And who knows what further calls I shall be making on the NHS as I age even more?)
I always take the attitude that I spent a lifetime paying in so am entitled to take a bit out.
Over the last 5 or 6 years I've had a couple of medical issues that the NHS wouldn't go near (hernia and a lipoma on my neck) and I hapily paid to have them treated privately (about £4k the pair). I think there is a lot to be said for going private if you can afford it.
The foreign model also appears to work well. On a recent holiday I had an attack of 'Bali belly'. It was a 5 minute walk to a private doctor, and when I asked the receptionist when I might be able to see a doctor she said 'as soon as you've filled in the form telling us what's wrong with you'. £60 for a consultation and some antibiotics - money well spent.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 11, 2024 21:41:59 GMT
FAR too many people using the NHS who have paid fornication all towards it? Supply and Demand isn't it? And No Shows should definitely receive a hefty billing, as should Health Tourists.
Paid fornication ? Is this available on the NHS ? Seriously, I couldn't figure out what this means possibly because I haven't been following.
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I was surprised the term still covered such a range today...
"The term fornication would include incest, prostitution, lesbianism, homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia, and adultery"
Its a common expression which is a method of making the phrase "f u c k all" sound more polite. "f u c k all" of course is another expression which means "nothing" but hopefully you realised that already.
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Post by moonraker on Jan 12, 2024 8:01:20 GMT
"Paid fornication ? Is this available on the NHS ? Seriously, I couldn't figure out what this means possibly because I haven't been following."
"When King David was very old, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his attendants said to him, “Let us look for a young virgin to serve the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.” (I Kings 1 1-2)
I am gauging what effect the cold weather has on me now I am taking an anti-coagulant.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 12, 2024 21:31:27 GMT
"Paid fornication ? Is this available on the NHS ? Seriously, I couldn't figure out what this means possibly because I haven't been following."
"When King David was very old, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his attendants said to him, “Let us look for a young virgin to serve the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.” (I Kings 1 1-2)
I am gauging what effect the cold weather has on me now I am taking an anti-coagulant.
Round our way we normally rely on hot water bottles (not wishing to make any comment on the availability of young virgins in my neighbourhood).
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Post by registerme on Jan 31, 2024 18:47:36 GMT
Another example of the type of thing that infuriates me. A friend of mine is a surgeon. Earlier this week she was called to operate on an old man who had dementia. He lived in a care home. He was delivered to the hospital with no medical records. She knew what procedure she was expected to carry out, but had no information on any other conditions he might be suffering from, or anything on the medication he was on.
So obviously this took time and effort to resolve.
Apparently it's standard. Nobody ever arrives from a care home accompanied by their medical record.
This boggles my mind. And the inefficiency must cost an absolute fortune.
EDIT: And it's not rocket science. This sort of thing should be trivial to mandate across the UK.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 31, 2024 19:13:20 GMT
Another example of the type of thing that infuriates me. A friend of mine is a surgeon. Earlier this week she was called to operate on an old man who had dementia. He lived in a care home. He was delivered to the hospital with no medical records. She knew what procedure she was expected to carry out, but had no information on any other conditions he might be suffering from, or anything on the medication he was on. So obviously this took time and effort to resolve. Apparently it's standard. Nobody ever arrives from a care home accompanied by their medical record. This boggles my mind. And the inefficiency must cost an absolute fortune. EDIT: And it's not rocket science. This sort of thing should be trivial to mandate across the UK. He didn't just rock up from the care home, though, did he? Surely he'd been seen by a GP and referred, then seen by a consultant or one of the team before it'd got to the surgery stage? So isn't this an internal-to-the-hospital issue, even an internal-to-surgery-team one? I mean, nobody comes from their own home bearing their medical records...
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Post by registerme on Jan 31, 2024 19:39:06 GMT
Another example of the type of thing that infuriates me. A friend of mine is a surgeon. Earlier this week she was called to operate on an old man who had dementia. He lived in a care home. He was delivered to the hospital with no medical records. She knew what procedure she was expected to carry out, but had no information on any other conditions he might be suffering from, or anything on the medication he was on. So obviously this took time and effort to resolve. Apparently it's standard. Nobody ever arrives from a care home accompanied by their medical record. This boggles my mind. And the inefficiency must cost an absolute fortune. EDIT: And it's not rocket science. This sort of thing should be trivial to mandate across the UK. He didn't just rock up from the care home, though, did he? Surely he'd been seen by a GP and referred, then seen by a consultant or one of the team before it'd got to the surgery stage? So isn't this an internal-to-the-hospital issue, even an internal-to-surgery-team one? I mean, nobody comes from their own home bearing their medical records... I don't know the details, and if I did I probably wouldn't understand them but... no, I don't think so. It was an emergency procedure, the consultant who should have done it wasn't available so my friend had to pick it up. I mean were there also failings within the hospital? Yes. Did the patient appear with no records? Yes.
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Post by agent69 on Jan 31, 2024 19:46:19 GMT
He didn't just rock up from the care home, though, did he? Surely he'd been seen by a GP and referred, then seen by a consultant or one of the team before it'd got to the surgery stage? So isn't this an internal-to-the-hospital issue, even an internal-to-surgery-team one? I mean, nobody comes from their own home bearing their medical records... I don't know the details, and if I did I probably wouldn't understand them but... no, I don't think so. It was an emergency procedure, the consultant who should have done it wasn't available so my friend had to pick it up. I mean were there also failings within the hospital? Yes. Did the patient appear with no records? Yes.But this must happen all the time.
If you are involved in a serious car accident and need urgent treatment in hospital do they wait to get your records from your GP before operating?
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Post by travolta on Jan 31, 2024 19:47:10 GMT
Medical Records accessible online :Need DOB &Name (plus patients agreement to access). They are rarely up to date and can be useless. Up till last week I felt that the NHS was shite . HOWEVER 1/2 collapsed with Heart Attack . 999 produced an ambulance within 3/4 of an hour . (We are 30 miles across some of the worst rural roads in England). Blue lighted to a hospital 60 miles away as neither Shropshire or Hereford do angioplasty . Straight out of wagon into surgery at Worcester Royal and then home again 3 days later. (he's a very fit 72 yearold,but comes from a family of  hearts) However the Heart Dept is chocker full of whales ,both in bed or visitng. I have never seen such overweight monsters. The reason why NHS is not fit for purpose is because Brits are not fit for ..... |
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Post by registerme on Jan 31, 2024 19:51:02 GMT
I don't know the details, and if I did I probably wouldn't understand them but... no, I don't think so. It was an emergency procedure, the consultant who should have done it wasn't available so my friend had to pick it up. I mean were there also failings within the hospital? Yes. Did the patient appear with no records? Yes.But this must happen all the time.
If you are involved in a serious car accident and need urgent treatment in hospital do they wait to get your records from your GP before operating?
No, but in this case the patient came from somewhere that held his records.
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Post by aju on Jan 31, 2024 19:51:22 GMT
Its an interesting concept.
Over here in Rainy Wiltshire things are more joined up than I would have expected. Recently I had some cough issues that was not really being cured by the antibiotics I had been given. I suggest one particular antibiotic that usually works for the kind of chest cough i sometime get. In passing though I mentioned something to one of our Nurses in our surgery about some asbestos i was exposed to some 40 odd years ago and before i could blink i was having xrays, blood tests to a level i had never had before.
Whilst they probably went over the top a little as all of the tests came back in normal ranges and the Xray was clear thankfully. That said having never been exposed to this level of care I was grateful for their checks.
We are I guess very fortunate where we live.
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Post by registerme on Jan 31, 2024 19:52:48 GMT
My point is not that the NHS is awful, because it isn't (I have another friend who has just been diagnosed with breast cancer and is having a mastectomy in two weeks' time). My point is that there are innumerable avoidable inefficiencies.
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