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Post by gramsky on Jun 9, 2023 7:17:12 GMT
When all our machines and appliances can communicate with each other and think for themselves. What happens when things go wrong, will the fridge elope with the dishwasher?
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Post by martin44 on Jun 9, 2023 18:46:42 GMT
When all our machines and appliances can communicate with each other and think for themselves. What happens when things go wrong, will the fridge elope with the dishwasher? And create the first "fridgewasher"
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Post by mogish on Jun 10, 2023 18:03:38 GMT
When all our machines and appliances can communicate with each other and think for themselves. What happens when things go wrong, will the fridge elope with the dishwasher? And create the first "fridgewasher" That would be cool! Chilled washed beer glasses.
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Post by crabbyoldgit on Jun 11, 2023 8:03:22 GMT
Ready filled with ice cold cider, were geniuses, let's go into business .
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 19, 2024 13:04:49 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 19, 2024 15:03:15 GMT
Bringing an end to my current ponder,
There is an idea called 'accelerationism ' that describes to increasingly intense whirlwind of technological innovation, particularly in the Al field.
There is a tension that people feel (I feel) between an 'end of human history hopelessness' and a speeding up storm of technological complexity. So from this comes the thought, is this where machine learning gathers speed as humans fall by the wayside? To repeat the point in an earlier thread, as our activities, indeed the very power consumption of AI destroys the planetary conditions under which we can live, will the machines who don't need to breathe eventually turn off the AC that is keeping the last people alive? Will the machines outlive us in a continuing uninterrupted capitalist culture?
As a human, you can say that whether or not this happens is a moot point.
You could also ask, can we stop the capitalism that is destroying us? Sadly not because when presented with our miserably short lives, our parents and and society present us with a programme of events, school, marry children work, and capitalism as a means to compete for the resources needed to feel fulfilled, successful etc. Too young to realise that there might be a different future possible, off people go, burning fuel to build their dreams. Anyone with alternatives was shouted down or trampled in the rush to grab. People don't see far beyond their own selves, they do what their peers do, what their parents did. And anyone challenging their right to burn fuel to achieve that same life should be thrown in jail!
If you met a hunter, who said their job was killing the last remaining tigers to sell some parts of them to the Chinese, who are you to say 'hey! Stop that! Because they would say, with these tiger parts I can feed my family, send my girl to school, it's my job no different to yours. We understand that this is capitalism, we all contribute to destroying the world around us. We are powerless to stop ourselves, we are paralysed as our extinction that we know we are causing rushes towards us faster even than our cautious scientists predicted.
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Post by keitha on Jul 19, 2024 15:51:25 GMT
I compare the US and the UK but I fear we are getting more like the US.
Americans are very money focussed, "I'm better than you because I earn more" Americans seem obsessed with status symbols "flash Cars, big houses etc" American has to Win - some years ago a friend was in the US and watching the Ryder cup just as the winning ( for Europe ) Putt dropped the TV cut to adverts, and Came back with cartoons rather than the European celebrations. Food portions are ridiculous 30% of Americans overweight another 40% obese
I'm sure that many British people get the idea from TV programs that America is the land of Milk and Honey, try telling that to the majority
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 19, 2024 16:02:53 GMT
Is the US style enevitable, actually a fuller development of the path humans are on?
i was wondering if capitalism made us more happy, such that we are currently the happiest people ever, making it all worth it. Was everyone on previous history bored, with their big empty brains, waiting for max entertainment choice that we have obtained? Did the amazonian hunter gatherers sit around the lodge of an evening, bored out of their skills with hunting stories, wishing they had an iphone? If this were true, it would justify ruining the planet , well, a bit.
Is capitalism actually inevitable? Is a socialistic society actually impossible? This may in fact be true. All recent tries at it seem to end with corrupt rich oligarchy, as some people play capitalistically, making fools of those who remain kind and generous. Are these people bad, or are they inevitable because capitalism is inevitable?
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Post by benaj on Jul 20, 2024 4:30:10 GMT
If AI is the new “alien” on Planet Earth, could different nations develop different AI to ensure no single AI could wipe out the entire human race? Just a thought. Something like to good “Terminators” wipe out the bad “Terminators”.
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