easynow
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Post by easynow on Aug 14, 2023 21:44:47 GMT
Went on Friday for my checkup, and after the new dentist took x rays, she said I needed to see the hygienist, "unfortunately we no longer provide NHS hygienist services, its private the fee is £49, are you willing to pay" No I'd had no prior notice, so felt rather cornered. So now my checkups will cost me £63, £49 private hygienist, £14 for NHS checkup. It's not that different to the £49 NHS checkup and hygienis, but personally I fear that some will drop the hygienist to save the £49 especially given how tight money is for some. £49 for hygienist is cheap, I’m paying around £75 now
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keitha
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Aug 24, 2023 16:54:53 GMT
Post by keitha on Aug 24, 2023 16:54:53 GMT
Well I've had the appointment, I need another longer appointment for a deep clean, That's another £125 please...
on the NHS it was on charge for the course of treatment.
do they not realise people in poorer parts of the country can't afford £175 every few months.
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mogish
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Aug 25, 2023 6:23:53 GMT
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Post by mogish on Aug 25, 2023 6:23:53 GMT
Here's a question. Do celebs get tax relief on their unnaturally white knashers? If they do why cant we get tax relief for dental treatment?
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Aug 25, 2023 10:09:51 GMT
Post by IFISAcava on Aug 25, 2023 10:09:51 GMT
Here's a question. Do celebs get tax relief on their unnaturally white knashers? If they do why cant we get tax relief for dental treatment? In the absence of clear HMRC guidance/precedent (which there may be, I don't know), if my job depended on appearance then for sure I'd claim it and see what HMRC said.
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beh
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Post by beh on Aug 25, 2023 10:30:11 GMT
£49 for hygienist is cheap, I’m paying around £75 now Was slightly surprised to find my hygienist scale and polish yesterday is now £71. Was ~£50 last year.
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Aug 25, 2023 11:52:26 GMT
Post by moonraker on Aug 25, 2023 11:52:26 GMT
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michaelc
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Sept 4, 2023 20:17:27 GMT
Post by michaelc on Sept 4, 2023 20:17:27 GMT
Went on Friday for my checkup, and after the new dentist took x rays, she said I needed to see the hygienist, "unfortunately we no longer provide NHS hygienist services, its private the fee is £49, are you willing to pay" No I'd had no prior notice, so felt rather cornered. So now my checkups will cost me £63, £49 private hygienist, £14 for NHS checkup. It's not that different to the £49 NHS checkup and hygienis, but personally I fear that some will drop the hygienist to save the £49 especially given how tight money is for some. £49 for hygienist is cheap, I’m paying around £75 now £132 here.
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mogish
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Sept 4, 2023 20:34:19 GMT
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Post by mogish on Sept 4, 2023 20:34:19 GMT
My nhs dentist has moved to 6m check ups, which in reality is every 9 months as they wont book an appointment until 6m is up and then wait 3 months to see a dentist.
The scale and polish is now only a scale.
Thinks the cost is around £16.
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Dec 16, 2023 16:45:51 GMT
Post by overthehill on Dec 16, 2023 16:45:51 GMT
NHS dental checkups in Scotland moved from 6m to maximum of 2 years. My NHS dentist told me it would be a year, if I wanted a checkup and scale in 6 months it would £60 instead of £15.
SNP have implemented a news blackout given next year's elections and the fact Sturgeon's pledge was to make NHS dentistry free for all Indyref 2 must have used up all the resources.
The SNP defend the decision by saying it will increase the number of NHS dentists which is currently 1 out of 5. I guess they never spoke to my dentist who said as they will be seeing less NHS patients and doing less NHS work, it creates more incentive to go private?
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 16, 2023 17:14:25 GMT
NHS dentistry is now a sick joke here in Wales. None available and most patients have no choice but to go private.
My son-in-law has a tooth needs filling, but it's apparently beyond the skillset of his private dentist. It has a curved root, so he needs a specialist... at £1,600. For a single tooth. And it would be expected to last just 6-8 years. But because it's apparently in thinner bone, the dentist won't extract it either - the same specialist has to do that, for a mere £600, if he can't afford option A.
With the appalling demise in NHS dentistry, we are fast returning to the days of licensed bandits in a mask.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 16, 2023 17:42:20 GMT
NHS dentistry is now a sick joke here in Wales. None available and most patients have no choice but to go private. My son-in-law has a tooth needs filling, but it's apparently beyond the skillset of his private dentist. It has a curved root, so he needs a specialist... at £1,600. For a single tooth. And it would be expected to last just 6-8 years. But because it's apparently in thinner bone, the dentist won't extract it either - the same specialist has to do that, for a mere £600, if he can't afford option A. With the appalling demise in NHS dentistry, we are fast returning to the days of licensed bandits in a mask. I hope he is not in any pain while this all gets sorted out. I've been there many times before. If its a "root" filling that needs doing the issue is both time and skill. I had one or two "root canal treatments" as they like to call it, done by my private dentist here some here ago. I found out he had skipped some key parts of the procedure (rubber dam not used for example) and it took him a total of an hour and a half. That is actually quick. In an ideal world the procedure would be carried out by an endodontist taking around 60 minutes _per root_ and using a dental microscope. That's where the money comes in. I have since had this done by a proper endo (not a general dentist) and have had very good results. What annoys me most about the UK is that even if you do go private, the service is often still c rap. If you don't live in a big city where is your nearest specialist endodontist ? Even then they might practice out of a crappy semi detached house. Why can't a few dentists group together and build a really decent purpose built dental clinic with all facilities and specialities. We really are moving towards the 3rd world
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 16, 2023 18:21:48 GMT
NHS dentistry is now a sick joke here in Wales. None available and most patients have no choice but to go private. My son-in-law has a tooth needs filling, but it's apparently beyond the skillset of his private dentist. It has a curved root, so he needs a specialist... at £1,600. For a single tooth. And it would be expected to last just 6-8 years. But because it's apparently in thinner bone, the dentist won't extract it either - the same specialist has to do that, for a mere £600, if he can't afford option A. With the appalling demise in NHS dentistry, we are fast returning to the days of licensed bandits in a mask. I hope he is not in any pain while this all gets sorted out. I've been there many times before. If its a "root" filling that needs doing the issue is both time and skill. I had one or two "root canal treatments" as they like to call it, done by my private dentist here some here ago. I found out he had skipped some key parts of the procedure (rubber dam not used for example) and it took him a total of an hour and a half. That is actually quick. In an ideal world the procedure would be carried out by an endodontist taking around 60 minutes _per root_ and using a dental microscope. That's where the money comes in. I have since had this done by a proper endo (not a general dentist) and have had very good results. What annoys me most about the UK is that even if you do go private, the service is often still c rap. If you don't live in a big city where is your nearest specialist endodontist ? Even then they might practice out of a crappy semi detached house. Why can't a few dentists group together and build a really decent purpose built dental clinic with all facilities and specialities. We really are moving towards the 3rd world He's had some terrible pain from it (and I remember that misery well myself!), but now thankfully quelled down with a temporary filling, pending this further treatment. Like all professions, it's pretty much luck of the draw whether you get a good practitioner or a mediocre one, irrespective of NHS or private. I've been lucky and the half dozen RCTs I've had over the years, performed by two different dentists and one by an endodontist (curved root), all appear to be satisfactory over time. What strikes me about paying your private dentist a fixed monthly contract fee is that it's very much in his interest to lean towards "you need to pay for a specialist" at any opportunity, because he is thereby relieved of having to do that work himself, yet still gets paid his same regular fee. When we are all forced private and there's no other option, it wouldn't surprise me to see this "outsourcing to a mate specialist - at your cost, obviously" on the increase. I'm convinced it already happens in BUPA hospitals, where you go in for one thing and, before you know it, every consultant would like you to see another consultant too, along the corridor, just to eliminate x... while the insurance bill rockets skywards...
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Dec 17, 2023 8:03:09 GMT
Post by agent69 on Dec 17, 2023 8:03:09 GMT
NHS dentistry is now a sick joke here in Wales. None available and most patients have no choice but to go private. My son-in-law has a tooth needs filling, but it's apparently beyond the skillset of his private dentist. It has a curved root, so he needs a specialist... at £1,600. For a single tooth. And it would be expected to last just 6-8 years. But because it's apparently in thinner bone, the dentist won't extract it either - the same specialist has to do that, for a mere £600, if he can't afford option A. With the appalling demise in NHS dentistry, we are fast returning to the days of licensed bandits in a mask. Whatever happened to the good old days.
Get a long piece of string, tie one end to the affected tooth and the other end to the door knob. Slam the door shut, and Bob (as they say) is your Uncle.
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Dec 17, 2023 16:25:52 GMT
NHS dentistry is now a sick joke here in Wales. None available and most patients have no choice but to go private. My son-in-law has a tooth needs filling, but it's apparently beyond the skillset of his private dentist. It has a curved root, so he needs a specialist... at £1,600. For a single tooth. And it would be expected to last just 6-8 years. But because it's apparently in thinner bone, the dentist won't extract it either - the same specialist has to do that, for a mere £600, if he can't afford option A. With the appalling demise in NHS dentistry, we are fast returning to the days of licensed bandits in a mask. Whatever happened to the good old days.
Get a long piece of string, tie one end to the affected tooth and the other end to the door knob. Slam the door shut, and Bob (as they say) is your Uncle. Not related to these two are you? www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA6jW-fiw6Y
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 17, 2023 17:45:13 GMT
I hope he is not in any pain while this all gets sorted out. I've been there many times before. If its a "root" filling that needs doing the issue is both time and skill. I had one or two "root canal treatments" as they like to call it, done by my private dentist here some here ago. I found out he had skipped some key parts of the procedure (rubber dam not used for example) and it took him a total of an hour and a half. That is actually quick. In an ideal world the procedure would be carried out by an endodontist taking around 60 minutes _per root_ and using a dental microscope. That's where the money comes in. I have since had this done by a proper endo (not a general dentist) and have had very good results. What annoys me most about the UK is that even if you do go private, the service is often still c rap. If you don't live in a big city where is your nearest specialist endodontist ? Even then they might practice out of a crappy semi detached house. Why can't a few dentists group together and build a really decent purpose built dental clinic with all facilities and specialities. We really are moving towards the 3rd world He's had some terrible pain from it (and I remember that misery well myself!), but now thankfully quelled down with a temporary filling, pending this further treatment. Like all professions, it's pretty much luck of the draw whether you get a good practitioner or a mediocre one, irrespective of NHS or private. I've been lucky and the half dozen RCTs I've had over the years, performed by two different dentists and one by an endodontist (curved root), all appear to be satisfactory over time. What strikes me about paying your private dentist a fixed monthly contract fee is that it's very much in his interest to lean towards "you need to pay for a specialist" at any opportunity, because he is thereby relieved of having to do that work himself, yet still gets paid his same regular fee. When we are all forced private and there's no other option, it wouldn't surprise me to see this "outsourcing to a mate specialist - at your cost, obviously" on the increase. I'm convinced it already happens in BUPA hospitals, where you go in for one thing and, before you know it, every consultant would like you to see another consultant too, along the corridor, just to eliminate x... while the insurance bill rockets skywards... My dentist is private but its a fee for a regular check up and a fee for the hygienist. Extra for additional treatment, which has generally been just Xrays every two years. For wisdom teeth I was referred to NHS hospital. They have also offered to refer to NHS for other problems, so far not necessary as far as I'm concerned.
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