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Post by michaelc on Dec 19, 2023 21:24:38 GMT
The very sad reality of course is that culturally, the UK is changing very fast indeed and Happy Holidays is just a very annoying symptom of it. There may well be significant benefit economically. IMHO the reason against mass immigration often given by the popular traditional press is the wrong one - namely that such folk are likely to cost the economy whereas in fact they add economic value. BUT we lose our culture. We've become a hodge podge mix of people who largely do not mix despite the odd use case picked up by the Woke movement. I think its a real shame and its definitely too late as we have already assimilated far too many people. I watched this guy last night along with a few million other people. All those people in Jaywick and elsewhere essentially kicked out of London - really grim. www.youtube.com/watch?v=omtg122Ym0Q |
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Post by adrianc on Dec 19, 2023 22:13:20 GMT
Really...? Isn't that exactly what this whole thread's about? "Me, ME! It's all about ME! You have to do it the way I WANT! Any other view is much less important. I'll be VERY offended if you don't use the words I WANT TO HEAR!"Your italicised quote would seem to fit exactly The PC Lefty Wokes?  Really? It was actually a paraphrase of the opening post of this thread.
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 19, 2023 23:04:05 GMT
Your italicised quote would seem to fit exactly The PC Lefty Wokes? Really? It was actually a paraphrase of the opening post of this thread. Ah, you mean the one with 7 upticks and counting... the most liked comment anywhere on this thread... 
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Post by pikestaff on Dec 20, 2023 8:36:44 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 20, 2023 9:27:57 GMT
Quite. It's been turned into one of those faux woke liberal tropes so beloved of the likes of the Trumpian wing of the Republican party, US Evangelicals (OK, at the moment the latter are a subset of the former), and the British "Redtop" media.
It's probably 35+ years since I parted ways with my American Jewish partner, but I was using "Happy Holidays/Seasons Greetings" blah blah back then, without an inkling it would become a populist "anti-woke" hate target. Indeed, had you told me back then it was "woke", I would have look puzzled and probably attempted to correct your grammar while figuring out why you were using a verb rather than an adjective.
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Post by aj on Dec 20, 2023 9:44:57 GMT
Solstice Blessings (In a couple of days) one and all. If i'm going to pick something to worship, I pick the sun. At least it's not imaginary like the magical sky people of other religions!  |
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Post by benaj on Dec 20, 2023 10:12:15 GMT
Feliĉan Kristnaskon al ĉiuj. Come on, it’s just season greetings. I have plenty of non christians saying this to almost every body whether religious or not, buddhists, muslims and atheists, including cards and presents from muslim friends. |
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Post by adrianc on Dec 20, 2023 10:26:23 GMT
Feliĉan Kristnaskon al ĉiuj. Come on, it’s just season greetings. I have plenty of non christians saying this to almost every body whether religious or not, buddhists, muslims and atheists, including cards and presents from muslim friends. 'course, the actual objection here isn't that people are trying to stopping you, Oz, Michael, Berny, Ethel, Marky, Mogish from saying whatever the hell you want to whoever the hell you want... Fill yer boots. It's that you want others to be stopped from saying things to you that don't fit your preference. Why can't they have the same freedom as you? Why do a few friendly syllables different cause you such anguish? Indeed, what's so different between "happy holidays" and the phrase you just used, "seasons greetings"? Neither explicitly reference one particular winter celebration, but both can be taken to include it. A cynic might suggest it could be described as "snowflake cancel culture".
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Post by benaj on Dec 20, 2023 10:33:33 GMT
Oh, I'm not going to explode. I understood OP's message quite well. He isn’t stopping anybody. Just greetings.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 20, 2023 10:41:45 GMT
I've never had a Happy Holidays card.  I wouldn't mind although I would assume it was from a long lost American cousin, it is just a holiday for a lot of people, but most seem to go for Merry Xmas or Seasons Greetings whatever their religion or lack of. |
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Post by benaj on Dec 20, 2023 11:34:12 GMT
I've never had a Happy Holidays card. I wouldn't mind although I would assume it was from a long lost American cousin, it is just a holiday for a lot of people, but most seem to go for Merry Xmas or Seasons Greetings whatever their religion or lack of. Well, very unlikely to receive one from J Witness. , may return a free mag or study instead.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 20, 2023 11:36:14 GMT
I've never had a Happy Holidays card. I wouldn't mind although I would assume it was from a long lost American cousin, it is just a holiday for a lot of people, but most seem to go for Merry Xmas or Seasons Greetings whatever their religion or lack of. Well, very unlikely to receive one from J Witness. Do they send cards? Seems a bit frivolous.
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 20, 2023 11:54:16 GMT
Well, very unlikely to receive one from J Witness. Do they send cards? Seems a bit frivolous. They don't celebrate Christmas or send cards. Ditto birthdays. I know this first-hand because a family member spent many years as a JW. Not sure why JWs singled out though. There are, of course, millions who don't send Christmas cards for religious reasons.
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Post by benaj on Dec 20, 2023 12:36:28 GMT
Well, very unlikely to receive one from J Witness. Do they send cards? Seems a bit frivolous. They do, but rarely. Last year, I received a card from a unknown JW, offering free bible for the entire block of residents. Say 70 letter x 1st stamps. All addressed to “residents”, not named.
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 20, 2023 12:48:44 GMT
Do they send cards? Seems a bit frivolous. They don't celebrate Christmas or send cards. Ditto birthdays. I know this first-hand because a family member spent many years as a JW. Not sure why JWs singled out though. There are, of course, millions who don't send Christmas cards for religious reasons.or non-religious reasons
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I wouldn't mind although I would assume it was from a long lost American cousin, it is just a holiday for a lot of people, but most seem to go for Merry Xmas or Seasons Greetings whatever their religion or lack of.