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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 20, 2024 7:44:21 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23kdjxxx1joHeadline says: Russian cash-for-votes flows into Moldova as nation heads to pollsRead the article and it turns out there have been a number of Moldovans returning from Russia with a 3K or 4K Euros. Not illegal the article says but then goes on to say that the money was confiscated anyway. For a lot of folk I suspect this article is boring as what do most people care about Moldova. I find it troublesome that our state broadcaster tells such lies. The French and German state broadcasters are a beacon of honesty in comparison. Amongst the points in the article which you have chosen to omit: "So police and prosecutors began seizing the cash. In one day alone they say they scooped $1.5m (£1.2m). No-one ever asked for their money back." [Note from me: as you say, not illegal to bring money back per se.....so a little extra suspicious then that no-one has ever asked for it back] And: "According to her team, once the cash couriers were detected at the airport and that route made more difficult, payments began to be channelled via a sanctioned Russian bank, PSB. By early October as many as 130,000 voters had received payment through this scheme - about 10% of the active electorate, according to Viorel Cernauteanu, the chief of police. “In September alone, $15m (£12m) was transferred,” he told me, explaining how they could trace funds and recipients because they gave personal data to open a bank account."This is what you choose to characterise as "a number of Moldovans returning from Russia with a 3K or 4K Euros". The only actual concrete evidence of biased reporting here is your summarisation and characterisation of the article. Which if nothing else appears (again) to be a deliberate misrepresentation in order to "evidence" the "truth" of your own biases. By your statement, it appears that events happening in the wider world you consider to be of little or not interest. That is a pity: if they were you would have known that (alleged) Russian interference in Moldovan politics generally - and its fear of a Putin invasion - has been the subject of reporting in various places for some time.
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Post by adrianc on Oct 20, 2024 7:46:39 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23kdjxxx1joHeadline says: Russian cash-for-votes flows into Moldova as nation heads to pollsRead the article and it turns out there have been a number of Moldovans returning from Russia with a 3K or 4K Euros. Not illegal the article says but then goes on to say that the money was confiscated anyway. For a lot of folk I suspect this article is boring as what do most people care about Moldova. I find it troublesome that our state broadcaster tells such lies. The French and German state broadcasters are a beacon of honesty in comparison. "People who had never left Moldova before were returning from a few days in Russia with wads of notes. “Almost everyone had money: 2,000, 3,000, 7,000 euros”, the head of customs at Chisinau Airport, Ruslan Alexandrov, remembers. The amounts themselves were not illegal but the patterns were suspicious. “There were certain flights: Moscow-Istanbul-Chisinau, Moscow-Yerevan-Chisinau,” the customs chief explains. “Normally people don’t come in with that much money. Not from Moscow.” So police and prosecutors began seizing the cash. In one day alone they say they scooped $1.5m (£1.2m). No-one ever asked for their money back.No, nothing at all suspicious there... Not with an EU alignment referendum today, along with a presidential election with the incumbent standing again on an openly pro-EU platform, and the pro-Russian opposition directed by a fugitive convicted fraudster and money-launderer... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilan_Shor
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Post by michaelc on Oct 20, 2024 13:43:48 GMT
As ever better researched than I ilmoro but actually you've sort of helped my argument. I said that in comparison to ours, the German and French state broadcasters are a beacon of honesty. The German state broadcaster headline you quote says "alleged" - there is no such wording in our broadcaster's headline. It was exactly the headline I was complaining about.
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Post by benaj on Oct 22, 2024 6:03:19 GMT
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Post by Ace on Oct 22, 2024 18:54:52 GMT
Thread temporarily locked while I try to move the Kaba related posts to the Kaba thread.
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Post by Ace on Oct 22, 2024 19:03:20 GMT
Thread temporarily locked while I try to move the Kaba related posts to the Kaba thread. Done.
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Post by benaj on Oct 23, 2024 4:32:08 GMT
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Post by keitha on Oct 25, 2024 13:24:00 GMT
Thames water taking another £3 billion of loans
depending on how you look at it 10 million customers, 4 million properties
IF you say 10 million bills,, then over 10 years this adds £30 a year to bills to pay it off ( ignoring interest of course )
of course the concept of cutting payouts won't occur to them.
I get the feeling that they feel they are too big to fail, what happens in 12/18 months when this money runs out ...
I'm not a fan of nationalised industry, but I feel that water is getting silly, if Thames get in more difficulty then we nationalise it with no compensation to owners.
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 25, 2024 14:48:55 GMT
Thames water taking another £3 billion of loans depending on how you look at it 10 million customers, 4 million properties I F you say 10 million bills,, then over 10 years this adds £30 a year to bills to pay it off ( ignoring interest of course )of course the concept of cutting payouts won't occur to them. I get the feeling that they feel they are too big to fail, what happens in 12/18 months when this money runs out ... I'm not a fan of nationalised industry, but I feel that water is getting silly, if Thames get in more difficulty then we nationalise it with no compensation to owners. But not necessarily. They don't get to just set the bills, a conversation I think we have had before. So they don't get to automatically pass that cost on just because they want to do it. But yes, water has become a bit of a mess (british understatement in play there).
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Post by bracknellboy on Oct 30, 2024 9:07:59 GMT
"Significant Fire" overnight in the Devonshire Dock Hall at Barrow. Depending on the extent/seriousness that COULD be massively expensive and have a really big impact on UK defence.
I believe 1 Astute plus 2xDreadnought under construction as of yesterday? Media reports are currently only referencing Dreadnought first of class, but I think the second and potentially even the 3rd are all underway in there.
Also even potential to have a knock on to AUKUS.
If you were a malign foreign actor wanting to hit the UK's defences in the n**s, Devonshire Dock Hall would be a very good place to start. Which is not to say it is anything other than an accident. For now.
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Post by benaj on Nov 5, 2024 16:10:35 GMT
"My £250 Child Trust Fund is now worth only £12" My own pessimistic view: Labour's CTF £250 voucher is close to worth less under bad platforms. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg7j83drd5oTBF, not sure where to put it. Amused or annoyed? This Prince, Max is not really happy to find out this "trust fund" investment.
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Post by daveb on Nov 5, 2024 17:03:53 GMT
"My £250 Child Trust Fund is now worth only £12" My own pessimistic view: Labour's CTF £250 voucher is close to worth less under bad platforms. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg7j83drd5oTBF, not sure where to put it. Amused or annoyed? This Prince, Max is not really happy to find out this "trust fund" investment. "Where are the customers' yachts?"
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Post by benaj on Nov 5, 2024 19:03:21 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Nov 12, 2024 14:33:54 GMT
I see the BBC and others have made their decision on this issue. On the one hand terrible that a few individuals controlling our media decide on matters such as this (yes I know its the MPs but they are heavily influenced by the media. Obviously). I'm glad that those individuals agree with me and thus have peppered the press with news in support of the bill. I support the bill too but would rather the press stuck to reporting news in an unbiased way. Why can NONE of them do that ? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c154pwlv4epo
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Post by registerme on Nov 12, 2024 15:36:52 GMT
I see the BBC and others have made their decision on this issue. On the one hand terrible that a few individuals controlling our media decide on matters such as this (yes I know its the MPs but they are heavily influenced by the media. Obviously). I'm glad that those individuals agree with me and thus have peppered the press with news in support of the bill. I support the bill too but would rather the press stuck to reporting news in an unbiased way. Why can NONE of them do that ? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c154pwlv4epoAnother of those BBC issues of yours where you didn't read the article?
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