michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Jun 7, 2024 15:07:01 GMT
All vaccines are bad IMO. Don't do vaccines, M'kay? I see you're not very good at figuring out the consequences of a radically different past with no vaccines.
I'll give you a clue, if my father was killed in WW2...
m'kay dick, that is your name isn't it.
This used to be a P2P forum about money, I can't be the only one to have noticed the recent trend, there can be 12 hour periods with no posts at all, I wonder why ?
Adrian is asleep ?
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Post by agent69 on Jun 7, 2024 16:26:34 GMT
All vaccines are bad IMO. Don't do vaccines, M'kay? So is it just vaccines that you object to, or is it anything medical that might be introduced into your system (for example do you decline local anaesthetic at the dentists for a filling or tooth removal?)
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Post by adrianc on Jun 7, 2024 17:11:48 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 7, 2024 18:24:30 GMT
I'm pumped full of all the vaccines that were going. What symptoms of the bad things they have done to me should I look out for?
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 7, 2024 20:11:25 GMT
I'm pumped full of all the vaccines that were going. What symptoms of the bad things they have done to me should I look out for? Being free of measles. free of mumps. Free of whooping cough. Free of polio. Free of tetanus. Free of Hep B. Free of diptheria. Free of having been a vector for transmission of those diseases to the poor s*ds who have either a very poor or non-functioning immune system. Nor for transmission to the mix of freeloaders and nut jobs, who having never lived in a world where diseases were rampant, decide that these diseases are either minor or are not due to viruses or bacteria 'cos such things don't exist and instead are due to "poisons". Or chem trails. Or are just a hoax. Or something.
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 7, 2024 20:18:46 GMT
I'm pumped full of all the vaccines that were going. What symptoms of the bad things they have done to me should I look out for? Bing free of measles. free of mumps. Free of whooping cough. Free of polio. Free of tetanus. Free of Hep B. Free of diptheria. Free of having been a vector for transmission of those diseases to the poor s*ds who have either a very poor or non-functioning immune system. Nor for transmission to the mix of freeloaders and nut jobs, who having never lived in a world where diseases were rampant, decide that either these diseases are either minor or are not due to viruses or bacteria 'cos such things don't exist and instead are due to "poisons". Or chem trails. Or are just a hoax. Or something. I don't get it. If Dark Forces wanted to poison mankind, there are easier ways to do it. And what would their evil plan be?
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 7, 2024 20:35:31 GMT
Bing free of measles. free of mumps. Free of whooping cough. Free of polio. Free of tetanus. Free of Hep B. Free of diptheria. Free of having been a vector for transmission of those diseases to the poor s*ds who have either a very poor or non-functioning immune system. Nor for transmission to the mix of freeloaders and nut jobs, who having never lived in a world where diseases were rampant, decide that either these diseases are either minor or are not due to viruses or bacteria 'cos such things don't exist and instead are due to "poisons". Or chem trails. Or are just a hoax. Or something. I don't get it. If Dark Forces wanted to poison mankind, there are easier ways to do it. And what would their evil plan be? ah, but they don't want to poison mankind. At least not today. Even if yesterday they did. No, they want to inject them with nano-sized microchips (yes, I know) that connect with the nascent 5G network so that Bill Gates can sit in his "human kind control centre" surrounded by screens and be God. Or something. But not if you think that theory is ridiculous, and its actually the space lizards that are in control. Which is clearly much more plausible. Or it's just big pharma that IS trying to poison us, but only so they can sell us more stuff to "cure" us. And of course the millions of trained medical staff and are all in the same conspiracy. Whichever conspiracy that actually is. Apparently. But don't let this whole thing detract from the chem trails. We mustn't forget them.
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Jun 7, 2024 20:40:31 GMT
Bing free of measles. free of mumps. Free of whooping cough. Free of polio. Free of tetanus. Free of Hep B. Free of diptheria. Free of having been a vector for transmission of those diseases to the poor s*ds who have either a very poor or non-functioning immune system. Nor for transmission to the mix of freeloaders and nut jobs, who having never lived in a world where diseases were rampant, decide that either these diseases are either minor or are not due to viruses or bacteria 'cos such things don't exist and instead are due to "poisons". Or chem trails. Or are just a hoax. Or something. I don't get it. If Dark Forces wanted to poison mankind, there are easier ways to do it. And what would their evil plan be? So the problem I have is not that stereotypical anti-vax nonsense that you allude. Definitely not. However some of the decisions that were taken during the covid pandemic seem worthy of in depth investigation. There have been some around the world already and my impression is they were generally rubber stamp excercises ("...yes the government did the right thing under the circumstances...."). I believe it is perfectly possible for a genuinely independent (of scientist and politicians who took decisions during the pandemic) and thorough investigation to both question decisions that were taken and also exonerate some/most of those who took them due to the emergency nature of the pandemic. There are all sorts of issues that arose from the use of this emergency vaccine. Young people and children is an obvious one. Was it ethical for them to to be asked to have it in order to protect older people? Taking any medicine carries some risk and the more people that take it the more people will suffer the more extreme side affects. People have died and have suffered enormously due to a bad reaction to the different covid vaccines. Of course that does not mean we shouldn't have used the vaccines as it probably saved more from covid19 than it killed. But tell that to the family of someone who was killed by the vaccine ? There are many, many other unanswered questions. What damage was done by shutting down and a particular emphasis on children? etc etc <\rant>
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Post by overthehill on Jun 7, 2024 21:39:23 GMT
Here's the facts about the astrazeneca covid-19 vaccine, and possibly the case for all the vaccines made using the same method. 1 in 10000 people got blood clots which is very serious. Not sure if outcomes have been published.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 7, 2024 21:47:51 GMT
Here's the facts about the astrazeneca covid-19 vaccine, and possibly the case for all the vaccines made using the same method. 1 in 10000 people got blood clots which is very serious. Not sure if outcomes have been published.
Bloody hell - that's a lot more than I thought.
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 7, 2024 22:00:54 GMT
Here's the facts about the astrazeneca covid-19 vaccine, and possibly the case for all the vaccines made using the same method. 1 in 10000 people got blood clots which is very serious. Not sure if outcomes have been published.
Not the facts ... no evidence to support the number given and they arent even sure of the number 'I think' ... there is no number provided by AZ ... merely an admission in 'very rare cases' it can cause TTS & that is heavily caveated ... it is least a factor of 10 out for Germany, 25 for UK and even more for India, possibly the biggest user (produced under licence) www.thenewsminute.com/news/astrazeneca-tells-uk-court-covishield-might-cause-rare-side-effect
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 7, 2024 23:18:46 GMT
Here's the facts about the astrazeneca covid-19 vaccine, and possibly the case for all the vaccines made using the same method. 1 in 10000 people got blood clots which is very serious. Not sure if outcomes have been published.
Not the facts ... no evidence to support the number given and they arent even sure of the number 'I think' ... there is no number provided by AZ ... merely an admission in 'very rare cases' it can cause TTS & that is heavily caveated ... it is least a factor of 10 out for Germany, 25 for UK and even more for India, possibly the biggest user (produced under licence) www.thenewsminute.com/news/astrazeneca-tells-uk-court-covishield-might-cause-rare-side-effectYes but how does this deadlyness compare to rare reactions to paracetamol or aspirin? Or covid? I got vaxed and then got covid and it was practically a light cold, couldn't believe I'd failed the test. But my friend Frank died. He was a local councellor and in good health but not vaccinated. I can indulge the anti-vax fun now but at the time this happened, if I had met anyone telling people not to get vaccinated I would have kicked them in the arse.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 8, 2024 4:08:35 GMT
I'm pumped full of all the vaccines that were going. What symptoms of the bad things they have done to me should I look out for? I had one of my booster vaccinations just before coming on holiday. The nurse said do you want a pneumonia jab while you're here (one jab lasts a lifetime) and I said yes please. I asked her if she had any of the shingles vaccine and she said yes, but you can't have it because you fall into the 65 - 70yo gap and will have to wait until you get to 70.
There are risks associated with everything you do (am i going to stop driving my car because somebody got killed in a car accident yesterday). You just need to keep them in perspective and not get paranoid about something that has virtually no chance of occurring
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Post by bracknellboy on Jun 8, 2024 6:30:43 GMT
with regard to blood clotting and covid vaccines: one needs to also keep in mind that blood clotting was/can be an outcome from having Covid itself.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 8, 2024 8:24:31 GMT
I don't get it. If Dark Forces wanted to poison mankind, there are easier ways to do it. And what would their evil plan be? So the problem I have is not that stereotypical anti-vax nonsense that you allude. Definitely not. However some of the decisions that were taken during the covid pandemic seem worthy of in depth investigation. There have been some around the world already and my impression is they were generally rubber stamp excercises ("...yes the government did the right thing under the circumstances...."). I believe it is perfectly possible for a genuinely independent (of scientist and politicians who took decisions during the pandemic) and thorough investigation to both question decisions that were taken and also exonerate some/most of those who took them due to the emergency nature of the pandemic. There are all sorts of issues that arose from the use of this emergency vaccine. Young people and children is an obvious one. Was it ethical for them to to be asked to have it in order to protect older people? Taking any medicine carries some risk and the more people that take it the more people will suffer the more extreme side affects. People have died and have suffered enormously due to a bad reaction to the different covid vaccines. Of course that does not mean we shouldn't have used the vaccines as it probably saved more from covid19 than it killed. But tell that to the family of someone who was killed by the vaccine ? There are many, many other unanswered questions. What damage was done by shutting down and a particular emphasis on children? etc etc <\rant> If you think the UK covid inquiry is merely rubber-stamping the government's actions, you've not been paying the slightest attention... It's been dropped from the headlines in favour of Horizon, but it's still going on. covid19.public-inquiry.uk/Were the Covid vaccines risk-free? No. Was the risk much, MUCH lower than non-vaccination? Yes. Was shutting down economically harmful? Yes. Was NOT shutting down more harmful? Yes. "Eat out to help out"...? As for vaccinating healthy children - remember, the UK didn't generally do that. Precisely because the risk-vs-benefit profile was so very different. joppp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40545-022-00424-0
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