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Post by ethel on Aug 29, 2024 17:19:16 GMT
I gave up smoking over forty years ago but I object to the Governments proposed smoking ban in outside spaces. This could open up the floodgates to banning anything and everything that is thought to be bad for us. In the case of smoking, I do feel sorry for smokers now. What's going to be the next step - rounding them all up and putting them in a correctional facility, until they see the error of their ways? What will be banned next - alcohol, pizzas, sugar, coffee? The mind boggles.
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Post by moonraker on Aug 29, 2024 18:03:43 GMT
I've always been very anti-smoking and have grim memories of passive smoking in the office, night-clubs and restaurants and the stench of tobacco on my clothes. It certainly caused me respiratory problems, and I was relieved when my office introduced a voluntary ban circa 1990.
I don't feel at all sorry for today's smokers, including vapers, but am not overly bothered about them indulging outside, provided I'm not within range of the aroma. I would not strongly support a ban, except in outdoor eating areas. Not that I eat out/outside much nowadays, but a couple of times this year I've looked suspiciously around before sitting down to see if anyone was smoking. (I didn't spot any ash-trays and suspect that the restaurant was seeking to discourage it.)
(As an aside, I've had recent reason to regret my over-indulgence in sugar in my younger days. IRRC very little was added to food in the Frugal Fifties, and later on it took me too long to realise that I didn't need to buy sugar to add to food that now had it.)
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 29, 2024 18:31:55 GMT
I gave up smoking over forty years ago but I object to the Governments proposed smoking ban in outside spaces. This could open up the floodgates to banning anything and everything that is thought to be bad for us. In the case of smoking, I do feel sorry for smokers now. What's going to be the next step - rounding them all up and putting them in a correctional facility, until they see the error of their ways? What will be banned next - alcohol, pizzas, sugar, coffee? The mind boggles. I'm not sure it has yet reached even the less than dizzying heights of an actual "proposed" ban has it ? It sounded to me like one of those classic run it up the flagpole and see what the reaction is. I think I'm pretty much with you on this. That said, I was at an outdoor concert the other day. The bloke of the couple immediately in front of us and slightly to one side, was smoking. Quite a bit. And he was a little the worse for wear as well. It was generally pretty unpleasant despite being outside, as he was close (close enough to worry that in his less than sober state I might even end up getting a fag burn). I too am an ex smoker, and so not exactly a puritan on this. Though I did spot that Farage has announced that if they ban smoking outdoors at pubs he will never visit a pub again. That seems like a good reason to support a ban.
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Post by benaj on Aug 29, 2024 18:44:15 GMT
Weatherspoon man has said they have gone smoking free to some degree, I think.
How will the UK achieve smoke free 2030?
May be there’s way to achieve smoke free without complete ban all over uk
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Post by keitha on Aug 29, 2024 19:13:26 GMT
A smoking ban will create a bigger black hole in public finances
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Post by michaelc on Aug 29, 2024 19:34:12 GMT
I gave up smoking over forty years ago but I object to the Governments proposed smoking ban in outside spaces. This could open up the floodgates to banning anything and everything that is thought to be bad for us. In the case of smoking, I do feel sorry for smokers now. What's going to be the next step - rounding them all up and putting them in a correctional facility, until they see the error of their ways? What will be banned next - alcohol, pizzas, sugar, coffee? The mind boggles. I'm not sure it has yet reached even the less than dizzying heights of an actual "proposed" ban has it ? It sounded to me like one of those classic run it up the flagpole and see what the reaction is. I think I'm pretty much with you on this. That said, I was at an outdoor concert the other day. The bloke of the couple immediately in front of us and slightly to one side, was smoking. Quite a bit. And he was a little the worse for wear as well. It was generally pretty unpleasant despite being outside, as he was close (close enough to worry that in his less than sober state I might even end up getting a fag burn). I too am an ex smoker, and so not exactly a puritan on this. Though I did spot that Farage has announced that if they ban smoking outdoors at pubs he will never visit a pub again. That seems like a good reason to support a ban. Why not ban alcohol too? That nice chap, the CEO of Ryanair said yesterday he proposes a limit of two drinks in an airport. I'm sure he has all our interests at heart. Of course other people might remain annoying so why not ban them too? A full ban on Other People.
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Post by benaj on Aug 29, 2024 19:55:27 GMT
Ban is a strong word.
It’s like it’s illegal to have sex with under 16 but some teenagers don’t give a shxt and want pleasure without getting caught.
Whatever the new gov propose, it will be like it’s illegal to smoke in [these locations] except police officers are authorised to do so for carrying covert operations
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 29, 2024 20:19:26 GMT
I'm not sure it has yet reached even the less than dizzying heights of an actual "proposed" ban has it ? It sounded to me like one of those classic run it up the flagpole and see what the reaction is. I think I'm pretty much with you on this. That said, I was at an outdoor concert the other day. The bloke of the couple immediately in front of us and slightly to one side, was smoking. Quite a bit. And he was a little the worse for wear as well. It was generally pretty unpleasant despite being outside, as he was close (close enough to worry that in his less than sober state I might even end up getting a fag burn). I too am an ex smoker, and so not exactly a puritan on this. Though I did spot that Farage has announced that if they ban smoking outdoors at pubs he will never visit a pub again. That seems like a good reason to support a ban. Why not ban alcohol too? That nice chap, the CEO of Ryanair said yesterday he proposes a limit of two drinks in an airport. I'm sure he has all our interests at heart. Of course other people might remain annoying so why not ban them too? A full ban on Other People. well of course I didn't say I supported a ban. Indeed I pointed in the other direction.
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Post by bracknellboy on Aug 29, 2024 20:26:55 GMT
A smoking ban will create a bigger black hole in public finances I'm not sure it will 'cos it would only make a tiny dent in overall consumption. When it comes to e.g. pubs, I'm more in favour of leaving it to the pubs. They can easily - and many do - create no smoking and smoking outdoor areas. Better that than forcing all the smokers onto the street 2 feet away. I see the mooted idea also included ban on smoking outside hospitals. While I can understand the sentiment, I can see that having other deleterious effects e.g. people being more reluctant to go to hospital 'cos they won't be able to smoke even outdoors. And still ending up there but when they are even more ill. Still I certainly get that from a public health messaging point of view banning smoking immediately outside of hospitals has merit.
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Post by benaj on Aug 29, 2024 20:40:57 GMT
The unthinkable ban would be no NHS treatment if someone has been found traces of nicotine in the body, probably against Human rights.
Would definitely help reducing NHS cost. 🤣
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Post by benaj on Aug 29, 2024 20:47:06 GMT
I think they are specials, even the police wont want to deal with them with the election bets
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Post by michaelc on Aug 29, 2024 21:23:00 GMT
If such a ban is introduced, should the whole of the Parliamentary Estate be included?AIUI there are currently smoking areas within both the HoL and HoC estates. 100%
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Post by benaj on Aug 30, 2024 4:46:05 GMT
The other perspective, there’s no scientific evidence posting random post would damage anyone’s health outdoors, no impact on NHS cost. 🤣
So no ban proposed yet.
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Post by mogish on Aug 30, 2024 6:19:41 GMT
Ban on log burners in new homes. Reduction in amou t of smoke emitted in existing homes, may be great for the planet but in reality I can't see a council bod climbing on my roof to check emissions or bringing me a new coat when I'm sitting burning nothing.
I'm now "banned" from driving my civic in 4 cities up here, no worries, do online shopping and let more shops close.
I'm not against improved air quality, just getting fed up with constant intervention with government in how I live.
To finish( of the smokey topic) what's wrong with my battery operated smoke alarms that government feel I should spend 300 quid on hard wiring?
Either way, I stopped smoking years ago. No doubt in the future so massive law siot will be brought once evidence that capes weren't as ok as they thought.
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Post by mogish on Aug 30, 2024 6:20:35 GMT
Not capes lol vapes
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