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Aug 16, 2015 20:37:16 GMT
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Post by nickthefool on Aug 16, 2015 20:37:16 GMT
For me it all depends on how the ISA works. Without the ISA I feel I might as well just invest through the individual sites. Although a multi-site autobid option might be interesting, it's have to be very good to convince me to use it rather than the individual sites (without the ISA benefit).
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Oct 29, 2015 13:02:20 GMT
I'll only bite on any autobid tool which has dynamic bidding ability - i.e. guarantees to get me in at best available rate at or above the rate I set .. ideally with the ability to scale (lower bids as the rate goes down). Any sort of fixed rate autobidding ('bid all As at 10%') more or less guarantees you'll get more than your fair share of the dross that nobody else wanted, or which everyone else bought at 11% (assuming a non-fixed-rate model). YMMV.
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Nov 3, 2015 12:51:58 GMT
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Post by domUP on Nov 3, 2015 12:51:58 GMT
The robo tools always look for the best, ie highest, rate. A minimum acceptable rate can be set, and the system will wait, if necessary, to complete the bundle (I.e. Of bids/buys). This minimum can be absolute, or averaged across the bundle.
In terms of the spread parameters (across platforms, loan types, term, etc) these may be set to absolute or overflow. Absolute splits the investment strictly, and overflow starts at the best, and applies the spread value only when rates are equal across multiple loan parts and/or securities.
Point releases will add refinements such as consideration given to age of counterparts order, size of platform, etc etc.
Does this help?
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Nov 6, 2015 2:07:42 GMT
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Post by Liz on Nov 6, 2015 2:07:42 GMT
I'm open to this this idea, not sure about the fee, I have a six figure sum in p2p.
Do individual sites plan to launch an ISA, can I get several ISA's across different platforms or is this the only way for diversity.
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Nov 6, 2015 2:10:51 GMT
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Post by Liz on Nov 6, 2015 2:10:51 GMT
Is this ISA in p2p 100% going ahead? Or has hoops still to be jumped through?
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 6, 2015 21:16:56 GMT
Do individual sites plan to launch an ISA, can I get several ISA's across different platforms or is this the only way for diversity. I expect a lot of individual sites will launch their own ISAs. But if the rules for the AltFinISA's are similar to other ISAs, I'd expect that you'll be allowed to have only one. (You used to be able to have separate Cash and S&S ISAs when they were very distinct, and I don't know if that's still possible now. But I don't think you ever could have, say, multiple Cash ISAs for a given year with different banks/BSs, even if the total invested was less than the maximum allowed.)
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Post by james on Nov 7, 2015 9:58:32 GMT
(You used to be able to have separate Cash and S&S ISAs when they were very distinct, and I don't know if that's still possible now. But I don't think you ever could have, say, multiple Cash ISAs for a given year with different banks/BSs, even if the total invested was less than the maximum allowed.) You are allowed to have new money in one cash ISA and one stocks and shares ISA under current rules. The cash ISA money can be in more than one account provided by a single ISA manager, so you could have some current year money in a term deposit account, some in a variable rate and some in a mortgage saver scheme if the manager offered all three. The same applies to the S&S ISA if there's a reason to have more than one account. If transferring current year money from one manager to another when more than one account has been used for current year money, you still have to move all of the current year money with the manager, across all of the different accounts. Nationwide is one cash ISA provider that has more than one account available in its cash ISA that can be used for current year money at the same time.
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Nov 7, 2015 15:40:18 GMT
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Post by Liz on Nov 7, 2015 15:40:18 GMT
I assume you can currently open new cash ISA's with different companies, in different tax years.
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Post by jonah on Nov 7, 2015 20:07:05 GMT
I assume you can currently open new cash ISA's with different companies, in different tax years. You can. You can actually open several cash ISAs in one tax year, just not put non ISA cash into more than one (subscribe). But you could open two, transfer cash from a previous years ISA into one then put 'new' cash into the other. On that note, I think I recall a suggestion in the budget to tweak cash ISAs to allow multiple subscription in a single year. There was also a suggestion about withdrawing and reinserting cash. I don't recall anything more recently but potentially things will be clarified at the same time as the IFISA details come out.
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Post by ben on Nov 7, 2015 20:30:27 GMT
This site looks interesting when the ISA comes into play but at the moment I do not see what the point is. As you are paying a fee to use it and still have to do most of the work yourself. It only seems to benefit you if you can not be bothered to log into multiple sites
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Post by james on Nov 8, 2015 0:05:05 GMT
I assume you can currently open new cash ISA's with different companies, in different tax years. You can have an unlimited number of ISAs of either type using money from past years. There is currently a self-transfer rule for cash ISAs that says if you withdraw all money from a cash ISA and close it, you can redeposit the part of the balance that was current year money into another cash ISA. However, this is done as an exception rather than a standard feature to be freely used. What jonah mentioned is a plan to make it just routine from autumn 2015 (also mentioned in HMRC ISA Bulletin 65)and presumably without the close the account restriction, though the rules aren't known yet. There is currently a Technical consultation: The Individual Savings Account (Amendment) Regulations 2016 that is open until 8 November 2015. Given that closing date and the 2016 in the regulations title it seems unlikely that the extra flexibility will really happen in autumn 2015. It also appears that the change is going to be restricted to just those accounts that call themselves "flexible" to opt in to them, removing much of the potential benefit, which involves providers deliberately using restrictions like new money only. The article at wikipedia has a good description of the various ISA rules. The actual rules are in Guidance Notes for ISA Managers with updates in the various Bulletins.
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Nov 8, 2015 15:36:07 GMT
I assume you can currently open new cash ISA's with different companies, in different tax years. You can have an unlimited number of ISAs of either type using money from past years. There is currently a self-transfer rule for cash ISAs that says if you withdraw all money from a cash ISA and close it, you can redeposit the part of the balance that was current year money into another cash ISA. However, this is done as an exception rather than a standard feature to be freely used. What jonah mentioned is a plan to make it just routine from autumn 2015 (also mentioned in HMRC ISA Bulletin 65)and presumably without the close the account restriction, though the rules aren't known yet. There is currently a Technical consultation: The Individual Savings Account (Amendment) Regulations 2016 that is open until 8 November 2015. Given that closing date and the 2016 in the regulations title it seems unlikely that the extra flexibility will really happen in autumn 2015. It also appears that the change is going to be restricted to just those accounts that call themselves "flexible" to opt in to them, removing much of the potential benefit, which involves providers deliberately using restrictions like new money only. The article at wikipedia has a good description of the various ISA rules. The actual rules are in Guidance Notes for ISA Managers with updates in the various Bulletins. I could really take advantage of that as I have several closed ISA's, then I looked at the 291pages of Guidance form HMRC.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 8, 2015 22:59:17 GMT
This site looks interesting when the ISA comes into play but at the moment I do not see what the point is. As you are paying a fee to use it and still have to do most of the work yourself. It only seems to benefit you if you can not be bothered to log into multiple sites If, as we expect, we're going to be limited to opening just one IFISA next year with new money, then anyone interested in spreading their IFISA investment across multiple platforms would need a product like investUP's to achieve that.
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Post by james on Nov 9, 2015 2:13:42 GMT
I could really take advantage of that as I have several closed ISA's, then I looked at the 291pages of Guidance form HMRC. Closed? Just not taking new money or no money in them any more? Maybe start an ISA topic and say what you'd like to do?
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Post by nush on Apr 9, 2016 12:01:16 GMT
anyone using investup for their isa and is it working ok, also can isa money be put through investup into none isa platforms like AC and still be tax free, i guess not but thought i would ask anyway. thanks
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