agent69
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Post by agent69 on Aug 14, 2014 18:27:32 GMT
This seems the best proposition of the year to me, 18% from day one (from Aug15), solid security. Notlob and A****y same thing, also nominally 6 months. Perhaps one can expect a juicy enhancement at the end of most short term bridging loans. Before I get carried away can somebody wiser than me lay out the horror stories of when bridgers go wrong. Very good, just clicked on what Notlob is... If memory serves me right, it came from the Backwards episode of Red Dwarf, which featured srehtorB esreveR lanoitasneS ehT
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 14, 2014 18:56:56 GMT
Very good, just clicked on what Notlob is... If memory serves me right, it came from the Backwards episode of Red Dwarf, which featured srehtorB esreveR lanoitasneS ehT Think the clues are in the subsequent posts. Next topic is the application of the 'Crunchy Frog' when it comes to the discussion of asset security
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Post by markr on Aug 14, 2014 19:07:12 GMT
If memory serves me right, it came from the Backwards episode of Red Dwarf, which featured srehtorB esreveR lanoitasneS ehT That was nodnoL, notloB crops up in Monty Python's dead parrot sketch.
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j
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Post by j on Aug 14, 2014 19:41:03 GMT
Huh!
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Post by shimself on Aug 14, 2014 19:59:43 GMT
.... Perhaps one can expect a juicy enhancement at the end of most short term bridging loans. Before I get carried away can somebody wiser than me lay out the horror stories of when bridgers go wrong. So I put in a serious point hoping for guidance and all I get is a load of excitement about sad teardrop (anagramsite.com)
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j
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Post by j on Aug 14, 2014 21:10:40 GMT
.... Perhaps one can expect a juicy enhancement at the end of most short term bridging loans. Before I get carried away can somebody wiser than me lay out the horror stories of when bridgers go wrong. So I put in a serious point hoping for guidance and all I get is a load of excitement about sad teardrop (anagramsite.com)
You get nothing but seriousness on this forum
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Aug 14, 2014 21:41:40 GMT
.... Perhaps one can expect a juicy enhancement at the end of most short term bridging loans. Before I get carried away can somebody wiser than me lay out the horror stories of when bridgers go wrong. So I put in a serious point hoping for guidance and all I get is a load of excitement about sad teardrop (anagramsite.com)
dead parrots
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Aug 14, 2014 22:37:49 GMT
.... Perhaps one can expect a juicy enhancement at the end of most short term bridging loans. Before I get carried away can somebody wiser than me lay out the horror stories of when bridgers go wrong. So I put in a serious point hoping for guidance and all I get is a load of excitement about sad teardrop (anagramsite.com)
could be worse, you could've got the Spanish Inquisition! <groan>
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Post by shimself on Aug 16, 2014 21:45:00 GMT
could be worse, you could've got the Spanish Inquisition! <groan> Everybody was expecting that one
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Post by jevans4949 on Aug 17, 2014 13:16:36 GMT
Back on topic (sort of), we shouldn't be surprised about loans running over their term if they depend on re-financing. After all, during the time it takes for an AC loan to be drawn down, somebody somewhere has got an outstanding loan waiting to be repaid.
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Post by shimself on Aug 17, 2014 14:14:08 GMT
Back on topic (sort of), we shouldn't be surprised about loans running over their term if they depend on re-financing. After all, during the time it takes for an AC loan to be drawn down, somebody somewhere has got an outstanding loan waiting to be repaid. well yes that was rather my point, that there is a good chance that the loan will be sweetened by a month or 2 of interest at 18%. I did read somewhere just recently though that for distressed sales you should figure 66% of full valuation (which I think means that to feel safe one is looking for 66% ish LTV, less say another 5% to cover interest, and no doubt another 5% to cover dead money while the sale takes place, say 55% in all)
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Aug 18, 2014 11:39:13 GMT
Back on topic (sort of), we shouldn't be surprised about loans running over their term if they depend on re-financing. After all, during the time it takes for an AC loan to be drawn down, somebody somewhere has got an outstanding loan waiting to be repaid. well yes that was rather my point, that there is a good chance that the loan will be sweetened by a month or 2 of interest at 18%. I did read somewhere just recently though that for distressed sales you should figure 66% of full valuation (which I think means that to feel safe one is looking for 66% ish LTV, less say another 5% to cover interest, and no doubt another 5% to cover dead money while the sale takes place, say 55% in all) I think you're spot on, every deal would be perfectly covered from month one. We'd get a lot of safe deals with lower rates too.
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Post by mikes1531 on Aug 27, 2014 10:11:43 GMT
I did read somewhere just recently though that for distressed sales you should figure 66% of full valuation (which I think means that to feel safe one is looking for 66% ish LTV, less say another 5% to cover interest, and no doubt another 5% to cover dead money while the sale takes place, say 55% in all) If you read the AC valuation reports thoroughly, often the valuer is asked to provide a value for a sale with a time restriction of, say, three or six months. The discount required for a faster sale -- compared to waiting for a buyer to come along and pay the full value -- can be eyewatering! In the case of borrower defaults, therefore, I think we should expect either a long wait for our money or a faster return and a capital loss. (Not forgetting, of course, that lender interest is at the end of the queue for repayments after foreclosure administration fees, introducer fees, AC fees, etc.) In short, while 70% LTV sounds like it ought to be more than adequate to protect lenders, lenders still are taking on a risk in order to receive their returns. Whether all P2P/P2B lenders realise that risk exists is another matter completely.
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Post by j on Aug 28, 2014 11:16:54 GMT
In case it was missed, as per q&a on AC, an update is anticipated this morning re:repayment. Nothing as yet though communicated further.
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Post by chielamangus on Aug 28, 2014 16:05:38 GMT
Well, I wish I could sell some of this loan. Have tried, and I am sure there are buyers out there at 1.5 per cent per month, but sales are currently blocked by AC. My portfolio is constipated until this and a few others are repaid.
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