stevio
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Post by stevio on Apr 20, 2016 18:21:34 GMT
Does anyone know of an accurate online tax calculator that takes into account: - Salary - Savings Interest - Dividend income - Personal Pension contributions I know the HMRC Self Assessment will do this for you, but I am not able to access the current year as I have not yet submitted 2014/15 If you go onto the HMRC website www.gov.uk/software-tax-returns this gives a list of the software they recognise that will do a self assessment calculation for you. I have used the trial version of this one abcsa.co.ukThanks for this, it is actually what I asked for, but I did want one that would calculate the current tax year
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Post by stevio on Oct 30, 2016 14:52:12 GMT
Thanks, that's how I thought it worked and how it has seemed to work for me but i'm always open to possible good news. I'm looking at VCT's again - I think Albion released a new batch around Nov last year? I can't see anything yet on their website
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Post by james on Oct 30, 2016 16:20:00 GMT
Albion have said that they expect to have an offer this year, starting around November. They have been helpful on the phone whenever I've called and if you want to know the exact timing that should get it for you. One thing they have done in past years is have their first allocation of shares at the end of January. More later of course. That makes it a bit of a guess, do you think they will be oversubscribed and have your money sitting in their bank account until then? Or do you wait until near to the end and maybe miss it if the one(s) you want become full? I suggest fairly early. Three others that are open already are: Foresight VCT - not looked much yet. Min £3k. Raised £23m of £30m target so far. ProVen Growth & Income allocations on 9 Nov 2016, 31 Jan 2017, 3 March 2017, 5 April 2017. Buyback 5%. Min £5k. Raised £4m of £30m target so far. Octopus Titan allocations on 16 Dec 2016 and presumably others, last on 5 April 2017. Buyback 5%. Min £3k. Raised £14.2m of £70m target so far. Not so much in the way of asset backing though and they invest earlier in the company growth cycle than Albion, there's a picture here (PDF) to illustrate. I've listed them with later stage first, then early stage, so Foresight is later stage and hence likely to be safer than the other two, while Octopus Titan has mostly relatively early stage. Albion have historically had a minimum £6k total buy across all of their VCTs with minimum £1k in any one of them but have said to me on the phone that they would be flexible at their discretion, particularly for existing investors. Flexibility is more likely early on when less busy and not close to full, I suspect. Foresight have an extra 0.5% initial discount on charges for existing investors, ProVen G&I and Octopus Titan 1%, if I recall correctly Albion it's 0.5%. The discounts from brokers reduce 5.5% or so initial charges down by 3-4.5% depending on whether you're an existing investor in the VCT or not, those numbers include the early bird discounts. I suggest AAVC first if you want relative stability and asset backing but if you want or need move diversification those might be worth considering.
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Post by james on Nov 11, 2016 9:06:08 GMT
Albion have announced that they expect to open their offers this year and make the prospectus available on 29 November.
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Post by stevio on Dec 2, 2016 8:15:55 GMT
How do people work out the return on their VCT's?
There is the offset tax, is this simply just the amount of tax saved divided by 5yrs?
Also the dividends, are these yearly?
I believe their very illiquid, so selling can be difficult without a big discount for the loss of tax relief. I understand some companies buy back the shares, but again at a discount. So I'm guessing you would need to factor the discount to sell into the overall return? Or would the best strategy be to keep them after the 5yrs? If so, how do you work out the return?
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Post by hazellend on Dec 2, 2016 11:34:03 GMT
There are different eligibility requirements for the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band and the new 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band = Claim as long as SALARY AND SAVINGS income is below £16,000 (doesn’t take into account Dividends) 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance = Claim as long as SALARY AND SAVINGS income is below Basic Rate Tax Band (£43,000 16/17) (doesn’t take into account Dividends) With your example James, if your savings and salary are 26k, - you wouldn't receive the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band - you would receive the 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance You could use VCT's to reduce the tax you have incurred, but it wouldn't give you back the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band However, should you have income that takes you outside the Basic Rate Tax Band, I wonder if Pension payments that increase the Basic Rate Tax Band, would mean that you would then still be eligible for the 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance? I am playing round with the calculation in 15/16 tax return at the moment to see the most relief I can receive from VCT's Hi Stevio, my take on the savings starting band rate is different. I think as long as your non savings income is less than 16k you are entitled to it. So if you earn 10k from non savings and 10k from savings income, you will only need to pay tax on 4k (20k - 16k) Please read this website copy and paste: Can you explain the 0% Starting Rate for Savings and the Personal Savings Allowance? Starting Rate for Savings (SR) - On 6 April 2015 the 10% starting rate was abolished and replaced by the 0% starting rate. The rules for signing an R85, the form used to inform a savings provider to pay interest gross also changed. The 0% band for 2015/16 & 2016/17 is £5,000. It is restricted by non- savings taxable income so that none of the band will be available if that income is above their personal allowance (& blind person’s allowance if claimed) plus the £5,000 starting rate. Personal Savings Allowance (PSA) - On 6 April 2016 the Personal Savings Allowance will be introduced, £1,000 for basic rate taxpayers and £500 for higher rate taxpayers. Additional rate tax payers aren’t eligible. The two allowances work together and are dependent on your total taxable income. Interest Paid Gross – From 6 April 2016 savings income will be paid gross (without tax being taken). The R85 will be discontinued. The easiest way to establish if you qualify is to add up your non savings income, if it is below or within your personal allowance plus £5,000 then the Starting Rate for Savings will apply. If this doesn’t cover all of your savings income then apply the Personal Savings Allowance. To determine which rate to use add up all of your taxable income including savings income. If it's £43,000 or less then use £1,000, if between £43,001 and £150,000, use £500.
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Post by stevio on Dec 2, 2016 12:59:30 GMT
There are different eligibility requirements for the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band and the new 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band = Claim as long as SALARY AND SAVINGS income is below £16,000 (doesn’t take into account Dividends) 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance = Claim as long as SALARY AND SAVINGS income is below Basic Rate Tax Band (£43,000 16/17) (doesn’t take into account Dividends) With your example James, if your savings and salary are 26k, - you wouldn't receive the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band - you would receive the 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance You could use VCT's to reduce the tax you have incurred, but it wouldn't give you back the 5k 0% Savings Starting Rate band However, should you have income that takes you outside the Basic Rate Tax Band, I wonder if Pension payments that increase the Basic Rate Tax Band, would mean that you would then still be eligible for the 1k 0% Personal Savings Allowance? I am playing round with the calculation in 15/16 tax return at the moment to see the most relief I can receive from VCT's Hi Stevio, my take on the savings starting band rate is different. I think as long as your non savings income is less than 16k you are entitled to it. So if you earn 10k from non savings and 10k from savings income, you will only need to pay tax on 4k (20k - 16k) Please read this website copy and paste: Can you explain the 0% Starting Rate for Savings and the Personal Savings Allowance? Starting Rate for Savings (SR) - On 6 April 2015 the 10% starting rate was abolished and replaced by the 0% starting rate. The rules for signing an R85, the form used to inform a savings provider to pay interest gross also changed. The 0% band for 2015/16 & 2016/17 is £5,000. It is restricted by non- savings taxable income so that none of the band will be available if that income is above their personal allowance (& blind person’s allowance if claimed) plus the £5,000 starting rate. Personal Savings Allowance (PSA) - On 6 April 2016 the Personal Savings Allowance will be introduced, £1,000 for basic rate taxpayers and £500 for higher rate taxpayers. Additional rate tax payers aren’t eligible. The two allowances work together and are dependent on your total taxable income. Interest Paid Gross – From 6 April 2016 savings income will be paid gross (without tax being taken). The R85 will be discontinued. The easiest way to establish if you qualify is to add up your non savings income, if it is below or within your personal allowance plus £5,000 then the Starting Rate for Savings will apply. If this doesn’t cover all of your savings income then apply the Personal Savings Allowance. To determine which rate to use add up all of your taxable income including savings income. If it's £43,000 or less then use £1,000, if between £43,001 and £150,000, use £500. Sorry, how are you saying it differs, that seems to be exactly what I said?
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Post by hazellend on Dec 2, 2016 13:49:27 GMT
You said Salary and savings income. This is saying salary only and savings income doesn't matter.
So if your salary is 11k you get the 5k + 1k even if you are over 16k total once you include savings income.
Hopefully I'm not confusing the situation too much.
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Post by eascogo on Dec 17, 2016 0:50:00 GMT
For those thinking of diversifying into stocks&shares I recommend this inspirational video by the founder of Fundsmith Equity Fund. I have a 6-digit sum in this fund. Published on 6 Apr 2016 "Terry Smith presents the full Fundsmith 2016 Annual Shareholder's Meeting from Central Hall Westminster, London." www.youtube.com/watch?v=frllk_p_IaE
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