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Post by dan1 on Jun 29, 2017 10:37:18 GMT
A surprisingly large amount of just one loan available at 0.5% discount. Does anyone have any views as to why a BH would be relinquishing their bonus in loan (1628506850)? It looks Ok to me. It is actually me selling. The loan is sound and no new info has surfaced. I just need the money for other purposes. I see you've played your last move. Any reason you didn't drip-feed onto the SM? Was this indeed a test of the depth of the SM as nick said?
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Post by locutus on Jun 29, 2017 11:05:46 GMT
I see you've played your last move. Any reason you didn't drip-feed onto the SM? Was this indeed a test of the depth of the SM as nick said? I have been drip feeding. This is not a test of the depth of the SM. I genuinely need the money and need to liquidate for other reasons. I'll be interested to see if my 1% discount generates any increased demand.
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Post by n on Jun 29, 2017 11:10:08 GMT
One man's drip is another's swimming pool.
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Post by dan1 on Jun 29, 2017 11:33:18 GMT
I see you've played your last move. Any reason you didn't drip-feed onto the SM? Was this indeed a test of the depth of the SM as nick said? I have been drip feeding. This is not a test of the depth of the SM. I genuinely need the money and need to liquidate for other reasons. I'll be interested to see if my 1% discount generates any increased demand. I assumed you hadn't drip-fed after seeing > £20k on offer at one stage, deep pockets of which I am envious! The SM has been a moody beast these past few months with the massive cash injections from previous years ISAs, although discounts appear to be increasing of late indicating a slow-down. Have you approached FS regarding increasing the allowable discount, they may be agreeable given your status as a HNW investor.
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Post by locutus on Jun 29, 2017 11:38:00 GMT
Have you approached FS regarding increasing the allowable discount, they may be agreeable given your status as a HNW investor. I'm happy to work within the restrictions of the platform. If 19.42% doesn't persuade someone to buy, I don't think going any higher will make much difference. I suspect there is just a bit of a glut at the moment.
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Post by r00lish67 on Jun 29, 2017 12:29:46 GMT
Have you approached FS regarding increasing the allowable discount, they may be agreeable given your status as a HNW investor. I'm happy to work within the restrictions of the platform. If 19.42% doesn't persuade someone to buy, I don't think going any higher will make much difference. I suspect there is just a bit of a glut at the moment. Don't worry, there are those 7 loans due to repay by the end of tomorrow, that'll sort out the glut.
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Post by saraph on Jul 1, 2017 13:48:00 GMT
I registered on FS today and one thing kinda confuses me: there's so many loans being sold on SM at discount, but at first glance they all seem fine. Why is that?
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Post by archie on Jul 1, 2017 13:55:38 GMT
I registered on FS today and one thing kinda confuses me: there's so many loans being sold on SM at discount, but at first glance they all seem fine. Why is that? Loans on FS pay interest at the end of the term only. If the seller bought on the primary market they can sell without incurring any income tax liability so it may make sense to discount. The buyer pays them the equivalent of the interest earned so far, the seller isn't liable for income tax. However, the buyer is liable for income tax on the interest inherited from the buyer plus any interest they then earn.
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Post by saraph on Jul 1, 2017 13:59:41 GMT
I registered on FS today and one thing kinda confuses me: there's so many loans being sold on SM at discount, but at first glance they all seem fine. Why is that? Loans on FS pay interest at the end of the term only. If the seller bought on the primary market they can sell without incurring any income tax liability so it may make sense to discount. The buyer pays them the equivalent of the interest earned so far, the seller isn't liable for income tax. However, the buyer is liable for income tax on the interest inherited from the buyer plus any interest they then earn. That probably only applies to UK residents, doesn't it?
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Post by archie on Jul 1, 2017 14:08:23 GMT
Loans on FS pay interest at the end of the term only. If the seller bought on the primary market they can sell without incurring any income tax liability so it may make sense to discount. The buyer pays them the equivalent of the interest earned so far, the seller isn't liable for income tax. However, the buyer is liable for income tax on the interest inherited from the buyer plus any interest they then earn. That probably only applies to UK residents, doesn't it? Not sure how non-UK residents are taxed.
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Post by Godanubis on Jul 1, 2017 14:34:27 GMT
There is no income or capital gains due if funds are held inFISA .
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Post by IFISAcava on Jul 1, 2017 15:35:44 GMT
I registered on FS today and one thing kinda confuses me: there's so many loans being sold on SM at discount, but at first glance they all seem fine. Why is that? Two things: 1) tax, as already mentioned; selling before term accrues a capital gain and avoids tax on the interest. 2) risk: selling early avoids the higher risk of default the closer a loan gets to term.
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Post by dzo on Jul 1, 2017 16:11:35 GMT
3) Sometimes people need cash for other things.
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Post by Godanubis on Jul 1, 2017 20:38:56 GMT
If you need (or even if you don't credit cards give transfer to bank at 1.9% flat for 10 months at 1% payback per month.) If you need £1000 for 6mth it would cost £19.00 fee if your investment was at 15% (not too difficult) if you took off at the start the 5.5 month payment sell at -1% to insure no tax and money available to pay card back) you have to make at 1% a month you can guarantee payment to card. works like this month 1 borrow £1000 (withdraw £1000 from FS you require) fee £19 , total owing £1019 Total due in payment to credit card for 6 month is £10.19 x 6 =£60.94 Sum left to invest £939.06 (£925 if no interest bought so will work with this figure) invest at 13% for 164 days = £54 sell at -1% = £9.25 (to be sure of sale and no tax) interest left =£44.75 so total in FS to withdraw =£939.06 +44.75=£983.81 Amount left to pay credit card is the original amount you had to invest i.e. £939.06 So you would be £44.75 per £1000 borrowed better off
you can repeat this for as long as you can and still have taken out what you needed. My mortgage currently £100000 costs me £960 interest only a year. I have money to pay this off but why it makes me £12000 a year in interest £11040 after paying mortgage Make your money work for you 😉
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Post by Godanubis on Jul 1, 2017 20:51:42 GMT
Slight error need to sell at 135 days not 165 (silly me) so over £34 per £1000 depending on exact sale date still 6% AER at least on someone else's money
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