mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 12, 2016 17:44:29 GMT
... but loan start is calculated from date launched. Is this what SS are doing nowadays? IIRC, there was a time when a 1-year loan would say 365 days remaining when it went live, and would stay at that level until the loan actually drew down. Only after drawdown would the days remaining start going down. Perhaps SS don't bother doing that any more, especially as nobody seems to be too bothered when the remaining days count goes negative.
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 12, 2016 18:03:11 GMT
... but loan start is calculated from date launched. Is this what SS are doing nowadays? IIRC, there was a time when a 1-year loan would say 365 days remaining when it went live, and would stay at that level until the loan actually drew down. Only after drawdown would the days remaining start going down. Perhaps SS don't bother doing that any more, especially as nobody seems to be too bothered when the remaining days count goes negative. Been like this for a while. Not sure exactly when it changed, maybe with new site, I didnt notice immediately.
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Post by geoff on Mar 12, 2016 18:34:20 GMT
... but loan start is calculated from date launched. Is this what SS are doing nowadays? IIRC, there was a time when a 1-year loan would say 365 days remaining when it went live, and would stay at that level until the loan actually drew down. Only after drawdown would the days remaining start going down. Perhaps SS don't bother doing that any more, especially as nobody seems to be too bothered when the remaining days count goes negative. You are correct mikes1531 . On the old website, the loan term count down didn't start until a loan had drawndown. This would seem to be the logical approach. Clearly, judging by the questions from new investors, it is also misleading to show negative days remaining unless a loan is not being serviced. If a borrower continues to pay interest beyond the original loan term then surely that loan has effectively been extended, whether SS states this or not. As all loans are presently continuing to pay interest, it follows that there should be no loans showing in negative territory. Logically, IMHO, negative days remaining should only be used to indicate a loan in default. If this reasoning is sound, perhaps savingstream would consider a change to the current display.
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Mar 12, 2016 20:21:54 GMT
If a borrower continues to pay interest beyond the original loan term then surely that loan has effectively been extended, whether SS states this or not. As all loans are presently continuing to pay interest, it follows that there should be no loans showing in negative territory. Logically, IMHO, negative days remaining should only be used to indicate a loan in default. This would seem to be a logical approach, but I'm not sure things actually happen this way. On 'old Ts&Cs' loans, it's Lendy that are obligated to pay the interest, so it wouldn't matter if the borrower was paying or not. We've had some loans where SS have reported that the borrower had paid more interest, but I don't know whether those were 'old Ts&Cs' loans or 'new Ts&Cs' loans. If any were 'new Ts&Cs' loans, we don't know whether the extra interest was paid before, or some time after, the term remaining went negative. And we don't know how many of the currently negative loans actually have had further interest paid by the borrowers. It would seem that SS are making an effort to adjust the displayed remaining term to match the interest that has been prepaid, but we don't know whether they've finished that job. The critical unanswered question is what SS does, or will do, when a 'new Ts&Cs' loan reaches the end of its prepaid term. Unless they make it clear that the interest is unpaid and that investors will receive the accrued interest only if the borrower subsequently pays it, or if the security is sold for enough to return all capital, SS fees, and also pay the interest, then anyone buying parts in that loan will have a grievance if they don't receive the interest they are expecting. Unlike AC, where all borrower payments are shown on their website, SS doesn't publish this sort of info, so we're really in the dark about delinquent borrowers. It's obviously in SS's interest to give the impression that all loans are up-to-date, so they won't want to publish such info if they can avoid it. And if SS are willing to cover the interest in these cases, that's fine. But if they're not, we need a bit more light and transparency from SS.
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Post by caveman38 on Mar 13, 2016 8:33:11 GMT
Can I fund my account using a debit card or can it only be by bank transfer.
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Post by SteveT on Mar 13, 2016 8:33:56 GMT
Can I fund my account using a debit card or can it only be by bank transfer.
Bank transfer only.
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Post by mickj on Mar 13, 2016 9:45:06 GMT
Can I fund my account using a debit card or can it only be by bank transfer.
SS are nice and allow you to invest and then bank transfer what you owe, you may get emails, 24 or 48 hrs grace ? If you fail to transfer the investment won't stand. (include your account number on the transfer)
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Post by caveman38 on Mar 13, 2016 11:18:03 GMT
This I have done thanks. But I assume that although I made purchases both yesterday and today. The transaction may only be processed tomorrow and hit my account with SS on Tuesday (worst case scenario) assuming both SS and FD work faster payments. Would Tuesday arrival be OK or will my purchases be wiped?
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Post by ablender on Mar 13, 2016 11:37:05 GMT
This I have done thanks. But I assume that although I made purchases both yesterday and today. The transaction may only be processed tomorrow and hit my account with SS on Tuesday (worst case scenario) assuming both SS and FD work faster payments. Would Tuesday arrival be OK or will my purchases be wiped? From my past experience, I do not think that your purchases (over the weekend) will be wiped out. I usually send a quick email to SS when I transfer money to let them know that money is heading their way.
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Post by mickj on Mar 13, 2016 11:38:58 GMT
I would think that Tuesday won't be a problem, you can also drop SS an email saying the transfer is on it's way.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 13, 2016 11:41:45 GMT
I believe they'll gritch at you at least twice before they cancel the purchases, and a quick phone call or email from you would sort it before then. If you sent a FP transfer over the w/end it'll get to SS Monday, and typically you''ll get an acknowledgement email (well OK, two or three of them. 8>.) Monday AM.
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Post by caveman38 on Mar 13, 2016 18:40:24 GMT
I asked on a previous post about the SM. The reply was that it is not strictly a SM although you are buying remaining time on Live Loans. Can I ask if there are any tax implications re. interest. Like say FS where "CAUTION: When buying a loan part you are purchasing the original loan part. In line with HMRC rules you will therefore be responsible for any tax liability on all interest paid when the loan completes. As this can result in an overall loss, especially if the loan is repaid early, you should bear this in mind when purchasing on the secondary market". Or does this not apply when interest is paid monthly?
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Post by cooling_dude on Mar 13, 2016 18:43:37 GMT
I asked on a previous post about the SM. The reply was that it is not strictly a SM although you are buying remaining time on Live Loans. Can I ask if there are any tax implications re. interest. Like say FS where "CAUTION: When buying a loan part you are purchasing the original loan part. In line with HMRC rules you will therefore be responsible for any tax liability on all interest paid when the loan completes. As this can result in an overall loss, especially if the loan is repaid early, you should bear this in mind when purchasing on the secondary market". Or does this not apply when interest is paid monthly? I don't know about FS, or their messages as I have never invested with them...... However, you'll only have to declare the interest that you earn..... false stop. SS have a "Tax Statement" page to show exactly how much interest you have gained, during a defined period. You can use this when submitting your returns.
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Post by caveman38 on Mar 13, 2016 18:50:14 GMT
Thanks for the reply. I don't see how other platforms can do that to investors who may be a unaware or like me a bit naïve. It appears that you buy a part loan off an investor at discount or with a premium and also have to pay him the interest that has already accrued because you will be picking that up when the loan terminates. But you are then liable for paying tax on the whole loan. How many people innocently buy on those SM's and get duped?
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Post by pom on Mar 13, 2016 18:53:11 GMT
I asked on a previous post about the SM. The reply was that it is not strictly a SM although you are buying remaining time on Live Loans. Can I ask if there are any tax implications re. interest. Like say FS where "CAUTION: When buying a loan part you are purchasing the original loan part. In line with HMRC rules you will therefore be responsible for any tax liability on all interest paid when the loan completes. As this can result in an overall loss, especially if the loan is repaid early, you should bear this in mind when purchasing on the secondary market". Or does this not apply when interest is paid monthly? Unlike FS, any SS SM purchases are just related to the capital. SS then pay the interest at the end of the month and pro-rate it depending on how much of the month you owned it for (so seller gets first part, buyer the last....and SS keep whatevers due for while it was on the SM in the middle)
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