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Post by blender on Mar 10, 2016 11:33:15 GMT
I have only looked at 'chat' because of a general message from the moderators concerned about standards of compliance with the rules and the workload of the mods. I see the problem. I don't mind consenting adults discussing jokes or politics or even making disparaging remarks about the bodily attributes of their spouses, but I do not see what it has to do with p2p or why our volunteer moderators should have to spend their unpaid time reading it, supervising it and discipling those who become over-emotional about these difficult issues.
So why not do away with chat, or at the very least ensure that every thread created has some direct relevance to p2p? There are plenty of other sites where dad jokes are welcome, even encouraged, and no doubt moderated by dad-joke enthusiasts. How about agreeing to discuss the EU generally on a nominated sites intended for it, unless the discussion is specifically on the relevance to p2p?
It's a p2p site, the p2p site for lenders generally. So why put its reputation and its moderation at risk by straying into irrelevant discussions which make people over-excited and which strain our valuable moderators?
Just a suggestion, from a boring old f*rt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 11:52:39 GMT
I'd agree, but, every forum I contribute either has "nonsense" spread across the whole parish or they have a "nonsense section" to keep it all together. The ones that work well have a section to keep the chatter.
Still, I've been contributing for 12 - 18 months and this has been the first time I've seen a "big step in". Well done to the Mods, BTW. They let it run to see if people would grow up and when it didn't they acted.
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Post by registerme on Mar 10, 2016 12:16:56 GMT
I agree with @bobo, in that it's good to have a section devoted to "off topic". The EU thread though I think is valid in as much as the notion of a Brexit vote could have an impact on the economy, and that could have an impact on P2P (the exchange rate and interest rates being the two most obvious examples). I also agree with Jaydee that humour has its place in life, and this forum would be much the duller without the odd joke and friendly banter between forumites. When it becomes less friendly though, that's when, unfortunately, the mods have to get involved  . |
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Post by blender on Mar 10, 2016 12:21:38 GMT
I spread my nonsense with my serious posts and I think it helps lighten the mood. There are some really good dad jokes on that thread, and I can either read it all or not. But it does seem to be additional and irrelevant. The question I am raising is whether we should be causing the moderators the extra work - and stress. The EU debate is a serious and emotive issue, and may well cause people to forget what the forum is for. I suppose I am floating the suggestion that even in chat the threads should have relevance to p2p and if not the moderators should have the ability to cease the thread - simply to save them the work of reading and moderating it. They did not volunteer to moderate discussions on whether we should stay in or leave the EU. Alternatively, we could find a new moderator for off-topic subjects.
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Post by yorkshireman on Mar 10, 2016 12:35:50 GMT
I agree with @bobo , in that it's good to have a section devoted to "off topic". The EU thread though I think is valid in as much as the notion of a Brexit vote could have an impact on the economy, and that could have an impact on P2P (the exchange rate and interest rates being the two most obvious examples). I also agree with Jaydee that humour has its place in life, and this forum would be much the duller without the odd joke and friendly banter between forumites. When it becomes less friendly though, that's when, unfortunately, the mods have to get involved . I agree, with the proviso that contributors have an obligation to act responsibly and not behave as if they were posting on social media or some other forums by being abusive or vulgar.
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Post by adrianc on Mar 10, 2016 12:47:17 GMT
The EU debate is a serious and emotive issue, and may well cause people to forget what the forum is for. I suppose I am floating the suggestion that even in chat the threads should have relevance to p2p and if not the moderators should have the ability to cease the thread - simply to save them the work of reading and moderating it. If there's any single general political subject which DOES have relevance to P2P right now, it's the forthcoming referendum - it makes a massive difference. Just looking at the number of posters and platforms based in other EU countries shows that. The fact it's emotive is why the referendum's happening in the first place. I can't see how it can be ignored, tbh. If anything's a bit borderline, it is the dad jokes thread - there's more than a few in there that are, shall we say, of limited demographic appeal.
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Post by trentenders on Mar 10, 2016 12:51:58 GMT
Presumably, it increases traffic to the site, which ultimately helps fund it (via advertising revenue).
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Post by adrianc on Mar 10, 2016 13:01:57 GMT
Presumably, it increases traffic to the site, which ultimately helps fund it (via advertising revenue). I don't think that's a big consideration - just look at the number of posts. The Chat forum has seen 2,500 posts - of which 1,000 are in those two threads. Sounds a lot, but look at the number of posts for some of the other forums - 25k in AC, 15k in FC, 17k in SS, 7k in RS and General.
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Post by ilmoro on Mar 10, 2016 13:29:19 GMT
Presumably, it increases traffic to the site, which ultimately helps fund it (via advertising revenue). I don't think that's a big consideration - just look at the number of posts. The Chat forum has seen 2,500 posts - of which 1,000 are in those two threads. Sounds a lot, but look at the number of posts for some of the other forums - 25k in AC, 15k in FC, 17k in SS, 7k in RS and General. Indeed, I doubt that section drives any traffic to the site (maybe rudy), its just an added extra which might make you're stay a bit longer.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 10, 2016 13:34:16 GMT
for the benefit of doubt: the forum iteslf does not receive anything from the advertising: that goes to the hosting service pro-boards. Whereas we control content including boards. So there is no related motive or benefit.
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Post by uncletone on Mar 10, 2016 22:44:19 GMT
for the benefit of doubt: the forum iteslf does not receive anything from the advertising: that goes to the hosting service pro-boards. Whereas we control content including boards. So there is no related motive or benefit. There's advertising? Really? Good heavens, are there people out there who have not discovered "ad blockers"?
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Post by adrianc on Mar 11, 2016 17:55:11 GMT
for the benefit of doubt: the forum iteslf does not receive anything from the advertising: that goes to the hosting service pro-boards. Whereas we control content including boards. So there is no related motive or benefit. There's advertising? Really? Good heavens, are there people out there who have not discovered "ad blockers"? Knowing that the forum itself derives no revenue from advertising removes my guilt from seeing that "You naughty boy!" message.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Mar 12, 2016 16:39:20 GMT
I find the blocked banner Ad at the top is a bit of a pain, since it displays later than the rest of the page, and therefore moves the heading I was just about to click on, so I wind up with the wrong sub-forum! (Anyone else noticed?)
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Post by uncletone on Mar 12, 2016 19:00:14 GMT
I find the blocked banner Ad at the top is a bit of a pain, since it displays later than the rest of the page, and therefore moves the heading I was just about to click on, so I wind up with the wrong sub-forum! (Anyone else noticed?) In truth, no. The whole page displays instantly for me. AdBlock Plus and Ghostery on Firefox (on a Mac).
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Post by adrianc on Mar 12, 2016 19:15:11 GMT
I find the blocked banner Ad at the top is a bit of a pain, since it displays later than the rest of the page, and therefore moves the heading I was just about to click on, so I wind up with the wrong sub-forum! (Anyone else noticed?) In truth, no. The whole page displays instantly for me. AdBlock Plus and Ghostery on Firefox (on a Mac). Pretty much instantly for me, too, and I'm on a really slow (2mbit) connection.
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