woodie
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Post by woodie on Sept 13, 2016 22:05:01 GMT
I love obstification and if it's not yet in OED ... it will be.
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sqh
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Post by sqh on Sept 14, 2016 0:02:08 GMT
I am disappointed that ''obstification'' has not made it into the OED's list of new words & phrases. Perhaps if enough forumites (that's another!) used it, it might then receive due recognition. So whenever your sought-after reply/update is not as clear as hoped... You could apply to get the word entered into the urban dictionary. It would likely be accepted.
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Post by kaya on Sept 15, 2016 8:41:36 GMT
Well there you go folks, the latest update is now out. It sounds like Rebs are really trying here, but as for the behavior of the borrower, there is only one word for it...
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Post by shimself on Sept 16, 2016 16:16:50 GMT
Well there you go folks, the latest update is now out. It sounds like Rebs are really trying here, but as for the behavior of the borrower, there is only one word for it...
I'll go for desparate
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Post by baldpate on Nov 2, 2016 18:22:51 GMT
The latest update on this loan is truly priceless. Apparently, in the face of continuing legal action, the company's CFO (for those who don't know their acronyms, that's Chief Fantasy Officer) has contacted ReBS claiming to believe that the loan was all along being repaid.
Perhaps our esteemed member from north of the border, @magenta14 , could provide us with a pithy term, in the local parlance, for barefaced nerve of this high order.
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Post by ablender on Nov 25, 2016 1:00:02 GMT
rebsrep: The last update about this loan is dated 2 November 2016. When can we expect some more news (hopefully positive)? PS: Do we need to remind you for updates or are you learning from the borrowers how to be elusive?
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Post by rebsrep on Nov 27, 2016 20:04:15 GMT
We generally update you when there is something concrete to update you with but debt recovery process's move extremely slowly and often there is very little change month on month between courts, solicitors, accountants, insolvency service & practitioners, administrators and whatever other professionals are involved. However we appreciate we can do better, and there is a rolling programme of improvements and you should see some of those on the next few weeks or so. One that we have already shared is the double up on here with both myself and wilko44 now fielding questions.
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Post by ablender on Nov 27, 2016 22:07:40 GMT
Thanks.
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kaya
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Post by kaya on Feb 10, 2017 15:13:50 GMT
Re latest update, very wise for Rebs to tread very carefully here. I do not trust anything this borrower says for a moment. Various previous statements have been proved blatantly false (they proved that themselves), and they appear to be willing to try anything to stave off a bankruptcy order. All investors in this loan do of course hope that this really is an honest proposal, but I have a vision in my head of pink pigs flying over the moon. Please do prove me wrong SEI Ltd.
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Post by shimself on Feb 10, 2017 15:34:45 GMT
Re latest update, very wise for Rebs to tread very carefully here. I do not trust anything this borrower says for a moment. Various previous statements have been proved blatantly false (they proved that themselves), and they appear to be willing to try anything to stave off a bankruptcy order. All investors in this loan do of course hope that this really is an honest proposal, but I have a vision in my head of pink pigs flying over the moon. Please do prove me wrong SEI Ltd. In summary they've offered to pay it off quite soon, and put up a property as security. Obv we must assume they are lying I've asked Michael can we trust the valuation - we need our own. And are we sure of the title being good? I'm not quite sure that the supposed 160K actually covers everything that is owed. I think it would make some sense to ask for management acccounts while we're at it.
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Post by david42 on Feb 10, 2017 23:28:01 GMT
I equally do not trust this borrower to stick to any repayment plan, given the past record of failed promises. But the additional security, and the involvement of an additional person standing behind the loan, improves the recovery outlook significantly, and I would be happy to give the borrower some leeway in return. And for all our criticism of the softly softly approach Rebs takes on loan recovery, I take my hat off to Rebs in this case for extracting the offer of this additional security.
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ablender
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Post by ablender on Apr 29, 2017 17:18:04 GMT
Some interest after more than a year of non-payment.
Still more outstanding interest, apart from the Capital whose repayment has been frozen.
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Post by stub8535 on Apr 29, 2017 20:47:51 GMT
But ablender, the lenders voted to support Rebuilding Societies proposed action in a fair poll did they not? Fair poll? Not in my opinion on this platform. When you have large backers in many loans, some of which would not have completed without input from an international backer with some seeming interest in massively supporting the platform, and the number of votes being based on investment level and not on 1 investor 1 equal vote, then massive influence can be won over the outcome with a few calls. Pareto rules. Maybe giving the small investor the same voice as anyone else would be a good development for finding the true feelings of the masses and acting accordingly. Another one would be to scrap the incentive scheme, signalled on p2pmoney, where an investor can "pay 5% to get to the front of the queue for payouts" on defaulted loans. Not really treating all lenders the same and it is not advertised in order to allow potential investors to make up their own minds about the fairness displayed by such an offering. The process, and outcomes achieved to date, for payers of this fee are not displayed. Nor is the impact on the rest of investors. One must draw your own conclusions on that one. "P2P investing is HIGH RISK and you may lose all your money" I do hope that the rush of greenhorn isa investors chasing massive rates understand the warnings. Taking the "in recovery" figure and declared bad debt, from the download table on the statistics page, as the HMRC "irrecoverable" as a percentage of the loanbook on a platform as a guide, in the absence of clear definition of bad debt on this platform, may lead to these new investors avoiding a troubled future until "the FCA give clear guidance on the reporting of bad debt" (speech in Leeds by founder this week). Time will tell.
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ablender
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Post by ablender on Apr 30, 2017 10:20:00 GMT
Another one would be to scrap the incentive scheme, signalled on p2pmoney, where an investor can " pay 5% to get to the front of the queue for payouts" on defaulted loans. Not really treating all lenders the same and it is not advertised in order to allow potential investors to make up their own minds about the fairness displayed by such an offering. The process, and outcomes achieved to date, for payers of this fee are not displayed. Nor is the impact on the rest of investors. One must draw your own conclusions on that one. I do not know anything about this. Where did you get the information?
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Post by buttchopf23 on Apr 30, 2017 14:48:03 GMT
In my country this would not be allowed. Happy to see any proof for that.
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