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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 8:38:55 GMT
Well obviously there HAS been stuff on the SM for those prepared to look for it.... I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but still possible there's a "reasonable" explanation....and if anyone is trying to shift money around, they're not likely to be very successful when there's not much on the market Really, pom, these trades are about 80-90% of all the trading volume so far today - I guess everyone else is just not looking hard enough  It also appears they are being very successful at moving money around on a quiet day.
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Post by pom on Apr 14, 2016 9:06:50 GMT
What I meant is that there's an obvious risk of someone else managing to snaffle the loans before they can. They could just as easily be in competition with each other - and in fact on a couple of those loans you quote would appear to be so. And there has been plenty of previous cases of a few people managing to grab anything going when the SM was previously empty, leading to lots of bot accusations.
So, whatever.... if there's something dodgy going on I'm sure SS will soon sort them out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 9:24:14 GMT
Well we do agree on one thing pom, Saving Stream will sort this out |
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Post by sl75 on Apr 14, 2016 9:24:57 GMT
Really, pom, these trades are about 80-90% of all the trading volume so far today - I guess everyone else is just not looking hard enough It also appears they are being very successful at moving money around on a quiet day. With ample opportunity to buy during the recent glut, I doubt there are many investors who are sufficiently desperate to invest to be set up for a few-seconds reaction time to loans becoming newly-available. However, your attention is drawn to 14.2 of the T&Cs: "We may end your membership of Saving Stream at any time and for any reason". If anyone is trying to make "easy money" to which they're not entitled (also known as "attempted fraud"), SS have a simple and effective way of dealing with it. In order to actually make the "easy money", you would somehow need to dupe SS for so long that not only did your interest get credited, but also SS were tricked into sending the full amount to your bank account without investigating further... if anyone is so foolish as to actually think they get away with it, then as far as I'm concerned, they're welcome to continue with their attempted fraud for as long as SS are happy to give them further rope with which to hang themselves (also known as "gathering further evidence").
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Apr 14, 2016 9:47:13 GMT
Well obviously there HAS been stuff on the SM for those prepared to look for it.... I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but still possible there's a "reasonable" explanation....and if anyone is trying to shift money around, they're not likely to be very successful when there's not much on the market Actually it looks exactly as if someone has been busy shifting money around (maybe in the wee small hours though). If some user wants to set up a new series of accounts for some reason (suppose they were 'peter x' 'vivian X' etc, and now they want 'peter x 1', 'vivian x 1') then they just need to tee-up an appropriate captcha approval, and then sell/buy within the response time of the average 2AM-awake-human (a few seconds). Not foolproof, but probably fairly safe. If it was 'pass the parcel to avoid paying' the amounts would recur daily, so I'm sure it is just someone doing 'new tax year housekeeping'. If SS provided a way to move loan parts to a place of your choice, the whole game would likely be invisible.
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Post by pom on Apr 14, 2016 9:59:01 GMT
With ample opportunity to buy during the recent glut, I doubt there are many investors who are sufficiently desperate to invest to be set up for a few-seconds reaction time to loans becoming newly-available. True, tho if they've got big pockets you don't need many....and the majority of the glut was in the last tax year. When I was a newbie I began investigating sites in March but made a conscious decision to delay starting investments until the new tax year so I'd have plenty of time for the extra tax return hassle to be worth it. So maybe the glut ran out before their pockets did. Just saying there's always lots of possible reasons....at least we're all agreed that SS will keep people honest (one way or another!) 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 10:08:54 GMT
I only highlighted these accounts today because the sm is unusually quiet.
I don't think it is anything to do with the new tax year as these particular accounts seem to appear regularly whenever I check the investor activity of the more popular loans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 13:53:21 GMT
Looks like n******1 is back buying everything he can, no doubt this will recycled to k******1 and w********1 after the weekend.
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Post by bigal on May 16, 2016 11:13:36 GMT
Looks like n******1 is back buying everything he can, no doubt this will recycled to k******1 and w********1 after the weekend. I watched what appeared something rather similar happening just after midnight this morning. Thought somebody was teasing folk by making them chase endless lakes and rivers, putting up a new £1 part immediately after the previous one sold. Then I checked the transaction list. Probably teeing up and testing their captcha/script first, before dumping the big load. The 16/05 transactions all happened within 90 seconds: 
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Post by frogmarch1987 on May 16, 2016 17:58:09 GMT
Looks like n******1 is back buying everything he can, no doubt this will recycled to k******1 and w********1 after the weekend. I watched what appeared something rather similar happening just after midnight this morning. Thought somebody was teasing folk by making them chase endless lakes and rivers, putting up a new £1 part immediately after the previous one sold. Then I checked the transaction list. Probably teeing up and testing their captcha/script first, before dumping the big load. The 16/05 transactions all happened within 90 seconds: I've noticed this also. I haven't looked into it like you did, but I have noticed that £1 pops up and then shortly afterwards a huge chunk of the same appears. Usually you don't even get to see the huge amount because it disappears between reloads, but occasionally you do. Obviously someone(s) with multiple accounts moving between themselves.
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Post by earthbound on May 16, 2016 18:05:14 GMT
Yup... Free interest.. But not for much longer.. SS got their beady eyes on em .. |
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Post by earthbound on May 16, 2016 18:26:49 GMT
Ahh - so they put up the £1, and solve the recaptur but don't buy then put up the big chunk and then buy it quickly without having to solve the recaptur. Nice. Paul correct, the crafty burgers are passin the parcel for free interest. been going on for a while, just noticed, my 1st line, don't thing McDonald's are involved.. Erm.. By the way. Can you keep the recapcha thing a bit quiet please. Works with with all loans .. Apparently .
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Post by holmesy999 on May 17, 2016 20:49:03 GMT
So does that mean if the eagle eyed amongst see £0.01 or £1 available on a loan, we can jump in and do the same- go to buy it knowing it will disappear, select a large amount i want, click I'm not a robot and solve any bullsh|t captcha, then what? Wait until the loan size goes big, or just click hoping to beat the person doing the "internal" transfer?
How can I take advantage and piss someone off???
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Post by cooling_dude on May 17, 2016 20:56:35 GMT
So does that mean if the eagle eyed amongst see £0.01 or £1 available on a loan, we can jump in and do the same- go to buy it knowing it will disappear, select a large amount i want, click I'm not a robot and solve any bullsh|t captcha, then what? Wait until the loan size goes big, or just click hoping to beat the person doing the "internal" transfer? How can I take advantage and piss someone off??? I've been doing it for months; but not for the reason that has arisen here... If an investor sells an entire loan that they have invested in, they'll possibly have many parts in that investment to sell. Every time I see a small loan part come up for sale, I go through the process, knowing full well I probably won't gain that investment part, but after the capture I wait about for a minute and occasionally the next loan part pops up and I knick it (no capture require, as I completed it previously). Yes, there are the occasions where a 1p part has appeared, and I have hovered to then knick a far larger amount (happened in the last hour with PBL61); never occurred to me it me that it was an investor trying to transfer the amount between accounts.
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Post by stevio on May 17, 2016 21:26:28 GMT
So does that mean if the eagle eyed amongst see £0.01 or £1 available on a loan, we can jump in and do the same- go to buy it knowing it will disappear, select a large amount i want, click I'm not a robot and solve any bullsh|t captcha, then what? Wait until the loan size goes big, or just click hoping to beat the person doing the "internal" transfer? How can I take advantage and piss someone off??? I've been doing it for months; but not for the reason that has arisen here... If an investor sells an entire loan that they have invested in, they'll possibly have many parts in that investment to sell. Every time I see a small loan part come up for sale, I go through the process, knowing full well I probably won't gain that investment part, but after the capture I wait about for a minute and occasionally the next loan part pops up and I knick it (no capture require, as I completed it previously). Yes, there are the occasions where a 1p part has appeared, and I have hovered to then knick a far larger amount (happened in the last hour with PBL61); never occurred to me it me that it was an investor trying to transfer the amount between accounts. Do you keep the available loans page open and the solved captcha at the same time and just refresh the available loans page to see the parts added?
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