ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 30, 2016 23:54:33 GMT
cooling_dude SSSH have charges fixed and floating against S******** C***** Ltd (same director) and Lendy has one as well which seem to be the relevant charge for this loan though no specific asset is noted. (date on latest is right - other might refer to earlier loan) I notice that the 4 charges against PBL59/72 are still listed unsatisfied. Annual return 3 months overdue Just found the charge for this loan S******** L***** RESIDENTIAL LIMITED Good job. How does one person have so many entries that CH fail to link. Woņder if related to famous person of same surname. Note another unsatisfied charge on security, hopefully another admin delay,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 9:05:33 GMT
Do SS have any more to release ?
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 31, 2016 11:44:10 GMT
Do SS have any more to release ? I think they might have; the original amount placed onto the SM was 100k. I suspect they release these excess amounts on to the SM manually so we'll just have to wait until tomorrow when they're back at the office.
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 31, 2016 12:00:21 GMT
Just found the charge for this loan S******** L***** RESIDENTIAL LIMITED Good job. How does one person have so many entries that CH fail to link. Woņder if related to famous person of same surname. Note another unsatisfied charge on security, hopefully another admin delay, Yes; if you have a look at Lendy Ltd on CH, neither Director (Tim or Liam) links to the other companies they are involved with. It makes DD hard sometimes... for example, the ex-directors of the garden centre set up a new company just after the loan defaulted, and immediately transferred their shareholdings to their female relatives... CH created two new listings for both these directors .
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Post by jjc on Jul 31, 2016 13:53:49 GMT
The units appear to be for sale at £105k (& on S********Investments.co.uk website from only £94k), which would knock a third off the GDV (& wipe away any profits..)
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Post by locutus on Jul 31, 2016 14:00:15 GMT
The units appear to be for sale at £105k (& on S********Investments.co.uk website from only £94k), which would knock a third off the GDV (& wipe away any profits..) Can you show your calculations as this doesn't sound right. There are 115 apartments and a big commercial space which should leave plenty of room for profit for the developer.
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Post by jjc on Jul 31, 2016 14:10:15 GMT
Just look at the VR appraisal. It assumes £150 - 154k selling prices for the 115 units. The commercial space is relatively minor (2.4m of GDV) & would need to be leased out to credit-worthy tenants on long terms (likely on build completion?) before being worth that.
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Post by Liz on Jul 31, 2016 14:24:30 GMT
Just look at the VR appraisal. It assumes £150 - 154k selling prices for the 115 units. The commercial space is relatively minor (2.4m of GDV) & would need to be leased out to credit-worthy tenants on long terms (likely on build completion?) before being worth that. You did say "from" 94K!!! A very, slight, tiny flaw in your evaluation.
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Post by locutus on Jul 31, 2016 14:26:37 GMT
Just look at the VR appraisal. It assumes £150 - 154k selling prices for the 115 units. The commercial space is relatively minor (2.4m of GDV) & would need to be leased out to credit-worthy tenants on long terms (likely on build completion?) before being worth that. I see what you're saying. I think the advertised rates are for the smallest one bed apartments whilst the calculations use a blended rate (average price for 1/2/3 bed apartments). It is a good question though. Perhaps they decided to opt for cheaper finishes so they could sell at a cheaper price and still maintain their margin. Or maybe the advertised rate is for a bare bones apartment and everything else is an upsell to get to their desired sales figure.
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Post by Liz on Jul 31, 2016 14:29:17 GMT
jjc please pm the link, so I can investigate further.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 31, 2016 14:49:15 GMT
The 94k is for the one bedroom serviced appartments, the two beds are £164k upwards
There are 60 serviced appartments ranging from £94k (1 appartment) but all the rest are from c£120k to £226k Total value £9m
The residential appartments have a price per sq ft ranging from £208 to £264 as opposed to the VR which gave £250 per sq ft. (which is value standard for all serviced)
Residential appts range from £105 to £172k Total value 7.5m
So that covers the 16.6m GDV excl commercial unit
I can PM links to schedule if anyone wants it
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Post by jjc on Jul 31, 2016 19:50:01 GMT
Thanks ilmoro. Yes, based on the schedule you found the £94k is a teaser price for 1 unit only. The GDV however has lost c.£1m from the VR GDV (£17.5m). Which added to some other slightly stretched / unclear assumptions (finance at 6.5% really? doesn’t include any finance costs for the acquisition of the building btw, which may have some further time drag if made, as presumably quite likely, months before the loan drew with SS – the SPV was incorporated in Jul’15, will the 5% contingency be sufficient for the possible structural issues mentioned by the valuer due to adding the additional floors, when will the commercial space be let & at what prices etc etc) I can see another £1–2m (hence total 2-3m from VR) being eroded from profits quite easily (even assuming the commercial space goes ok). Things don’t always pan out in real life as they do on paper. That said the deal is still workable imo (if they can keep the potentially complex build costs to budget, & do find the buyers relatively quickly), & I quite like it. I’d like to know more about the status on the build & sales progress however. On the schedule only 2 reservations had been taken (& no sales made). Ps. Wasn’t meaning to ruffle any feathers btw Liz. Am new to this deal (& much of the fab wacky world of SS). Would like to invest much more on the platform, but do possibly take a sterner look than some as I build my personal picture. A good occasion to thank people like cooling_dude for the much good work done, so here goes.
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Post by jcb208 on Jul 31, 2016 20:21:08 GMT
Someone evidently likes it as they've just taken £122,000 off the SM! ... I wonder if SS have a new BH (d*********i - can anybody remember who took that big lump out of DFL004?) Let's see if SS have any more available... (d*********I) Has just taken another 43K ,looks like he really likes this one or knows something we don't
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Post by mikes1531 on Sept 14, 2016 15:16:33 GMT
I was a bit surprised by the update of a week ago saying the borrower has found another development funder. Since SS already have the first charge, I would have thought they'd have an advantage over any other lender because some of the legal work wouldn't need to be paid for again. But perhaps that's peanuts in the big picture.
What did strike me was that if SS have been asked for a redemption statement, repayment could come soon. And if it did, that'd put £3.8M into investors' hands, and that's a lot of money to find a new home for.
The fact that SS are "In discussions" suggests that there's still a chance SS could keep the loan/borrower. I have my fingers crossed.
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Post by awk on Sept 14, 2016 15:20:58 GMT
But then, if I was negotiating with SS, the first thing I'd do is request a redemption statement and talk about alternative lenders forming a queue for my business .... unless
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