cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 17, 2016 19:27:35 GMT
at least he was not guilty! Nor was OJ Simpson I'm not a fan of this loan, nor the borrower, but looking at the case details it does seem like this was a case of disgruntled employees who then prayed on our borrower's certain lifestyle choices.
They probably hoped for a quick payday...
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Post by guff on Jul 18, 2016 21:11:09 GMT
Interesting Google review posted in the last week for H****** R****** M***** & B*******:
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Post by guff on Jul 18, 2016 21:33:37 GMT
Thanks for the warning on this one c_d. Duly baled out...
Remind me, how was this one funded - percentage or the other way?
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 18, 2016 21:35:39 GMT
Thanks for the warning on this one c_d. Duly baled out... Remind me, how was this one funded - percentage or the other way? It was allocation bottoms up (the loan was for less than 1m). £300 if my own overview is correct...
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guff
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Post by guff on Jul 18, 2016 21:41:18 GMT
Thanks for the warning on this one c_d. Duly baled out... Remind me, how was this one funded - percentage or the other way? It was allocation (the loan was for less than 1m). £300 if my own overview is correct... So it was bottoms up....
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Jul 18, 2016 21:43:57 GMT
It was allocation (the loan was for less than 1m). £300 if my own overview is correct... So it was bottoms up.... That's right (got it wrong in my post... swiftly correct... )
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guff
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Post by guff on Jul 18, 2016 21:54:56 GMT
That's right (got it wrong in my post... swiftly correct... ) Only an apprentice would get caught out with his bottoms up.
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Post by mikes1531 on Jul 19, 2016 1:13:47 GMT
When the subject is boats, bottom up is bad news!
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guff
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Post by guff on Jul 19, 2016 12:03:56 GMT
It could have been worse: Kingston upon Hull and not Kingston upon Thames.
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Post by harvey on Jul 19, 2016 21:00:52 GMT
I would like to see saving stream doing checks and due diligence on Borrowers and associated companies in addition to due diligence on property valuations and the legal side.
It's all very well to get a professional valuation and get your lawyers to do all the legal work and get the charge registered against the property but if the individual borrower is bent then it is a recipe for problems and perhaps there should be some investigation into the background of Borrowers in addition to checking whether the security is up to the job.
Regardless of the quality of the security offered, if a borrower has a track record of dishonesty or criminality or other adverse or dodgy actions I would suggest that is not a trustworthy person who we should all be getting associated with and it must increase the risk of default.
In terms of people's honesty and reliability and reputation, experience tells most of us that leopards don't very often change their spots.
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Post by registerme on Jul 19, 2016 21:11:14 GMT
......if a borrower has a track record of dishonesty or criminality or other adverse or dodgy actions I would suggest that is not a trustworthy person who we should all be getting associated with and it must increase the risk of default. It doesn't even have to be dishonest, criminal, or "otherwise dodgy". It could just be a record of bad decision making. I got extremely tired of one former employee who was, in spite of being very clever, and very well educated, simply incapable of learning from their mistakes. Would I lend money to them for a business venture? Nope.
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Post by harvey on Jul 19, 2016 21:46:14 GMT
Yes and that's an important point because sometimes people have the very best motives and intentions but their personal characteristics and abilities make them unable to fulfill them.
When somebody approaches you to go into some sort of deal then you must surely know their name address date of birth and various personal details and these days it is very easy to interrogate somebody's background in terms of company records and criminal records and county court judgements and press reports etc etc. As we know from this forum it is quite easy to find out not very glowing things about certain people and I wonder if saving stream should just do a bit more background on the Borrowers themselves rather than concentrating on the security being offered and the business plan behind the need for the loan.
I'm not saying they don't do that already but if they do it could appear that a few people have slipped through the net who perhaps we would rather not be lending to and this goes for other platforms as well and is a general point and not specific to the Riviera loan in which thread I am writing.
At a time like this when things have slowed a little in terms of investor appetite then I think it is a good time to just be a bit more careful and only bring first-class loans to the investors In order to build up confidence. Probably now is the time when quality is much more important than quantity and even an amber warning light flashing on the dashboard perhaps should be enough to say no to the business, when in the past only a red warning light would have triggered such a reaction.
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Post by george4064 on Dec 22, 2016 8:16:39 GMT
-34 days overdue, last update was 3 weeks ago. I wonder whats going on.....
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Post by arbster on Dec 22, 2016 8:24:56 GMT
-34 days overdue, last update was 3 weeks ago. I wonder whats going on..... -34 days is nothing. If you're investing here you need to be prepared for months of overdues, but you'll probably get the interest in the end.
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Post by jcb208 on Dec 22, 2016 8:30:55 GMT
-34 days overdue, last update was 3 weeks ago. I wonder whats going on..... Updates on all loans expected by COB friday
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