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Post by mrclondon on Jun 24, 2016 16:54:50 GMT
Mod hat off, Hard hat on. Will we get a new 'elite' now the old one has been seen off? And will the new 'elite' remember to share their wealth with all the little people who steered this country into the sunshine so they could be more successful? Perhaps Dyson will now bring his vacuum cleaner manufacturing back to the UK and only employ British designers and engineers? Can't wait to buy one of his British manufactured products, unencumbered as they soon will be by foolish EU energy usage regulations. The one silver lining that IS certain is regaining control of fishing around the UK - just don't expect that to benefit small fishing communities if Iceland's experience is anything to go by. Fishing quotas there are becoming concentrated in the hands of a few rich families who can afford to invest in efficiencies and buy up the quotas of those who can't compete - I guess you just can't stop elites rising to the top. Dyson won't bring manufacturing back to the UK until those naughty Chinese start paying their workers more that the UK Minimum Wage. Agreed. However in due course, UK companies will be able to hire some of the brightest and most innovative engineering graduates in the world .... which was the point Dyson was making a couple of weeks ago in relation to his UK based R&D operation. I have suffered similar frustrations to Dyson at the UK's inability to hire graduates with very specific skills, skills that are often not taught in UK or EU universities.
I personally find the perception that brexit = isolationism puzzling. In the context of 21st century business, it is IMO the EU of 28 countries that is isolated from the realities of globalisation.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 24, 2016 16:57:24 GMT
"(ShareCast News) - The FTSE 100 was down 3.5% to 6,114.73 in afternoon trading, still firmly in the red but ........ It finished the day at 6138, which is about 12 points higher than Monday morning. FTSE250 on the other hand not quite so rosy.
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Post by james on Jun 24, 2016 16:58:26 GMT
That is an old petition that sets hurdles for 75% turnout and 60% majority that are not likely to be met. In effect it was seeking to rig the vote so that it was only possible to have a remain result. For context, that seeks a 75% turnout and the actual turnout in the vote was 72.2%. That is higher than the turnout than in the last five UK elections, going back to 1992 before it was beaten at 77.7%. (1) The turnout required here is (AFAIR) far higher even than the government was proposing for strike ballots. I wonder if the originator of the petition thought about this? (2) Having been a member of a couple of (Baptist) churches that require a greater than 50% majority in certain cases, I find such rules totally frustrating. Effectively they leave the organisation in a situation that nobody wanted. For a local vote on parking I determined that the optimal strategy to reject it was not to vote so that the required participation rate wouldn't be obtained. This petition sought to do the same for the brexit vote, since it would only take about half of the remain voters to not vote to cause quorum failure even if the natural non-voters were ignored, though of course they couldn't be ignored. Just part of how it was seeking to force only a remain vote to be the practical result.
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Post by ablender on Jun 24, 2016 17:01:49 GMT
For anyone who is interested, please visit and if you like sign LINKThat is an old petition that sets hurdles for 75% turnout and 60% majority that are not likely to be met. In effect it was seeking to rig the vote so that it was only possible to have a remain result. For context, that seeks a 75% turnout and the actual turnout in the vote was 72.2%. That is higher than the turnout than in the last five UK elections, going back to 1992 before it was beaten at 77.7%. Why do you say it is an old petition? It is current and signatures are still being added. If you look at the numbers they are increasing as I write.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 24, 2016 17:05:55 GMT
"(ShareCast News) - The FTSE 100 was down 3.5% to 6,114.73 in afternoon trading, still firmly in the red but ........ It finished the day at 6138, which is about 12 points higher than Monday morning. FTSE250 on the other hand not quite so rosy. This was the bit that I thought was pertinent "outperforming European peers, as investors reacted to news that Britain has opted to leave the European Union."
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Post by agent69 on Jun 24, 2016 17:08:29 GMT
It finished the day at 6138, which is about 12 points higher than Monday morning. FTSE250 on the other hand not quite so rosy. "outperforming European peers ...." Rest of Europe was down between 6 and 12%. Makes you wonder who has most to lose.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 24, 2016 17:13:08 GMT
"outperforming European peers ...." Rest of Europe was down between 6 and 12%. Makes you wonder who has most to loose. EXACTLY....a bit like the tail wagging the dog 
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Post by Liz on Jun 24, 2016 17:15:53 GMT
When do we get the emergency budget?
PS it's lose not loose.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 24, 2016 17:18:48 GMT
When do we get the emergency budget? PS it's lose not loose. I've scene a lot werse on here!!
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Post by gmaxkenny on Jun 24, 2016 17:23:01 GMT
"outperforming European peers ...." Rest of Europe was down between 6 and 12%. Makes you wonder who has most to loose. Not surprising,their exports have suddenly become expensive to one of there main markets. Mines a Kia for the road and and a glass of Aussie red to wash down my juicy Brazilian steak.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 24, 2016 17:25:19 GMT
When do we get the emergency budget? PS it's lose not loose. It's a fair cop guv, I'll come quietly.
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Post by Liz on Jun 24, 2016 17:28:53 GMT
When do we get the emergency budget? PS it's lose not loose. I've scene a lot werse on here!! A like for getting "I've" correct.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jun 24, 2016 17:35:00 GMT
I've scene a lot werse on here!! A like for getting "I've" correct. I'm an "apostrophile" and now we're out we'll probably get to keep it!!!! edit the referendum just keeps on giving!
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 24, 2016 17:51:24 GMT
Has anyone seen or heard anything from Gideon today?
He's been conspicuous by his absence.
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Post by Steerpike on Jun 24, 2016 17:57:26 GMT
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