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Post by brianac on Jun 14, 2016 19:13:00 GMT
It will be interesting to see how many cancel their SM sales - there's a fair amount of interest to be lost over night for some of the bigger hitters. No need, I believe they implemented their proposal that you no longer lose / stop accruing interest when a loan put on sale. Not verified myself, but it was posted here. I have a small amount near the front of a very large Q, so I may end up testing it myself tonight if it doesn't sell before midnight. No they didn't we have already verified it with the "Macbeth" loan a couple of weeks ago. It was a suggestion that wasn't implemented (sp?) in the end. HTH Brian
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Post by trevxe on Jun 14, 2016 19:19:15 GMT
No, but this would be one of the clearest examples of professional negligence I could imagine. I have been involved in settling cases on behalf on insurers. Well good luck with that, but if this loan fails due to such basic errors do you really believe Lendy Ltd will still be around to sue the lawyers in the first instance? Whatever happens I believe Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd will be.
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Post by am on Jun 14, 2016 19:24:36 GMT
SS could have avoided a lot of drama here if they had assured us at the start that the lease extensions had all been completed. Also (which as far as I know still hasn't been done) assuring us that the refurbishments have also been completed. While it is reasonable to assume that SS wouldn't have released the loans without these conditions being satisfied, until the principles of "trust, but verify" and "don't assume" we shouldn't be asked to make such assumptions, but should be informed with the announcement of the loans. With these points left in the air it is easy for people to take counsel from their fears. People started digging, and got confused by all the various companies involved - so perhaps some documentation of the corporate structure involved, or at least an explanation of the various names appearing in the valuations, would not have gone amiss either.
Even if a platform thinks that its due diligence should be sufficient for its lenders, it's in the platform's interest to avoid its lenders getting spooked.
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Post by star dust on Jun 14, 2016 19:28:48 GMT
No need, I believe they implemented their proposal that you no longer lose / stop accruing interest when a loan put on sale. Not verified myself, but it was posted here. I have a small amount near the front of a very large Q, so I may end up testing it myself tonight if it doesn't sell before midnight. No they didn't we have already verified it with the "Macbeth" loan a couple of weeks ago. It was a suggestion that wasn't implemented (sp?) in the end. HTH Brian Er yes, unfortunately I saw your first post which I linked to, but completely missed the follow up that CD's just pointed out/ linked to . Well I guess I may be confirming there's no change to the policy , and agree MONEY , they'll be saving themselves a bit of interest. Not sure how many might try cancelling, but I guess they'd better watch out for the technical upgrade. I wonder if the site will be down? In edit: well, I won't be confirming anything myself, my loan part's just sold
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Post by dualinvestor on Jun 14, 2016 19:31:00 GMT
Well good luck with that, but if this loan fails due to such basic errors do you really believe Lendy Ltd will still be around to sue the lawyers in the first instance? Whatever happens I believe Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd will be. EDITED BY ADMIN:
Good luck with that one too given that SSSH is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lendy Ltd with no independent management
ADMIN NOTE:
What was posted is factually incorrect, and to have left as posted risked damage to Lendy Ltd. The records at company house show that Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd IS NOT a subsidiary of Lendy Ltd.
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Post by harvey on Jun 14, 2016 19:49:05 GMT
It's a shame they didn't know they they were going to make technical improvements to the site tonight when they sent the go-live notice yesterday..........sounds like BS. We should find out tomorrow when the action starts because if the server hasn't been upgraded tonight it will all seize up again tomorrow whereas if it has been upgraded it should run more smoothly and much quicker than it did last night.
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Post by harvey on Jun 14, 2016 19:57:16 GMT
I don't know much about IT stuff but normally when websites upgrade the hardware and make improvements they take the site offline for a little bit and I think there would be a bit of an outcry if the saving stream website was taken offline at some point tonight on the eve of the biggest loan launch day in their history.
Back On Topic - what a pity saving stream rushed these out yesterday with incomplete and out of date information. I.e. the lease details. I have to say this was another communication failure by saving stream and a lot of the negative comments over the last day could have been avoided.
I'm still not sure I will be getting into many of these loans. I think I will still stick with just two of them or maybe three and limit the size of my investments.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 14, 2016 20:08:55 GMT
I don't know much about IT stuff but normally when websites upgrade the hardware and make improvements they take the site offline for a little bit and I think there would be a bit of an outcry if the saving stream website was taken offline at some point tonight on the eve of the biggest loan launch day in their history. They've clearly got some load-balancing in there, with several servers handling requests, then pushing actual buying commitments back for confirmation - hence the occasional long pauses after hitting the invest button. I suspect they're getting some more front-end servers in, and - hopefully - boosting the back end, which should be less user-visible.
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Post by jsmithe on Jun 14, 2016 21:28:37 GMT
I'm not sure I trust the ones which claim to be 'looking to refinance'.
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Post by mrclondon on Jun 14, 2016 21:52:07 GMT
[ADMIN NOTE]An earlier post in this thread has been corrected to strike through an incorrect allegation concerning the ownership of Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd. This post is to give anyone that was potentially misled by the earlier post the opportunity to be aware of the correction. Whatever happens I believe Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd will be. EDITED BY ADMIN:
Good luck with that one too given that SSSH is a wholly owned subsidiary of Lendy Ltd with no independent management
ADMIN NOTE:
What was posted is factually incorrect, and to have left as posted risked damage to Lendy Ltd. The records at company house show that Saving Stream Security Holding Ltd IS NOT a subsidiary of Lendy Ltd.
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Post by littleoldlady on Jun 15, 2016 7:26:20 GMT
Does it make much difference if SSSH is a subsidiary or not? Are the directors the same? Is the PF held as cash in a SSSH bank account or is it just an accounting entry in Lendy's working capital, with SSSH as a creditor? I don't know the answers to any of these questions.
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Post by arbster on Jun 15, 2016 8:05:52 GMT
Would anybody on here, like to guess when these loans will go live tomorrow? Will it be in the morning, afternoon, or evening? Yes, I think it will be...
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Post by meledor on Jun 15, 2016 8:12:09 GMT
Does it make much difference if SSSH is a subsidiary or not? Are the directors the same? Is the PF held as cash in a SSSH bank account or is it just an accounting entry in Lendy's working capital, with SSSH as a creditor? I don't know the answers to any of these questions. It makes a great deal of difference. Under the new true P2P structure set up last September SSSH holds the loan security on our behalf. Therefore it is important that it is isolated from any bankruptcy risk for Lendy Ltd.
The PF is a completely different issue for which there is another company,Lendy Provision Reserve Ltd (again not a subsidiary of Lendy Ltd).
Why do you think the provision fund could be 'just an accounting entry in Lendy's working capital'?
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Post by adrianc on Jun 15, 2016 8:15:34 GMT
Does it make much difference if SSSH is a subsidiary or not? Definitely! Let's say Lendy go mammaries skywards. If SSSH is a subsidiary, then their assets are part of Lendy. If SSSH is not a subsidiary, then their assets are not part of Lendy.
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Post by averageguy on Jun 15, 2016 8:34:42 GMT
I'm not sure I trust the ones which claim to be 'looking to refinance'. On what grounds?
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