adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jul 11, 2016 15:54:51 GMT
I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that I might have to join the Conservative party just to get a vote on who our next PM will be. You've saved some money, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 16:38:11 GMT
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Post by SteveT on Jul 11, 2016 16:40:33 GMT
Lawyers suggesting there may be legal uncertainty requiring lengthy and expensive investigation by lawyers? Who'd have guessed?!
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Post by adrianc on Jul 11, 2016 16:51:02 GMT
Nobody's ever suggested the referendum was legally binding. The PR referendum legislation explicitly said that if it was a yes vote, that particular PR system would be used for the following GE. The EU referendum legislation said nothing about being binding in any way or timescale.
Article 50 says that the big red button has to be pressed in accordance with the UK's constitution. We don't have a written constitution. So...
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Post by lb on Jul 12, 2016 7:59:16 GMT
probably no second referendum but probably a GE which will be either vote Labour (who will state they wont trigger A50) or vote Tories (who will trigger A50). So Corbyn + EU. Or neither. What a choice!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 8:09:35 GMT
The United kingdom has a new Prime Minister, Theresa May, though a 'Remain' campaigner she has vowed to honour and respect the consider will of the British people and to follow through with Brexit, this will take courage as well as Leadership. It is my view that she has been blessed with both and more.
Our incoming PM will have her work cut out not just in negotiating with the EU the terms of our future relationship with them but also in reunifying Great Britain for Scotland, Northern Ireland and London resoundingly voted for 'Remain' there are growing fractures opening particularly between the one party to our Union between Scotland and England, we should earnestly hope that PM Theresa May and First Minister Nicola Sturgeon can together find common ground and build upon this in furtherance of our United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
It may come to pass that in redefining our relationship with the EU that we may also find ourselves needing to redefine ourselves and our relationships with each other as Special people comprising Special Nations living together on these our Our British Isles, our Home.
In closing I would wish to offer Theresa May my congratulations and hope that she is gifted great wisdom to steer all our People through these challenging times.
I wish her and each of you here my very best.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 12, 2016 10:33:58 GMT
probably no second referendum but probably a GE which will be either vote Labour (who will state they wont trigger A50) or vote Tories (who will trigger A50). So Corbyn + EU. Or neither. What a choice! Will there be a GE in the next year? Hmm. I was fairly sure there would be. Now? Less so. If there is, it'll be following Corbyn remaining Labour leader, and the party splitting. I still think that Article 50 is going to slide further into the long grass, though, and if it does actually happen, we'll end up as an EEA country (or something very similar), so the only real difference will be no MEPs and less influence in the future direction. The "hard brexit" option is simply not going to happen. There's just far too big a risk (damn near a certainty) that it would be suicide for inward investment and suicide for our relationship with our immediate neighbours, as that route will quite probably lead to the break-up of the EU and further fuel the rise of the far right, and just far too little benefit.
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Post by pikestaff on Jul 12, 2016 11:14:37 GMT
I share your assessment of the risks of a hard brexit, but I am not as optimistic as you that it will be avoided.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 12, 2016 13:04:20 GMT
I share your assessment of the risks of a hard brexit, but I am not as optimistic as you that it will be avoided. Right up until yesterday, May could not say anything anti-brexit, for fear of being utterly lynched in the member vote to be leader. She's not so stupid as to do a complete volte-face QUITE so blatantly as that... I'm just happy that she's finally given up on her ridiculous crusade against basic human rights.
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