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Post by nush on Apr 1, 2017 9:23:40 GMT
they must really like me, i have £6 uninvested, every time i send new cash it take about a week to be fully invested again, i do only send small amounts though, nothing new to send now until after isa day.
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Post by sunburyjane on Apr 1, 2017 11:51:13 GMT
I deposited £9000 just over 28 days ago and so far only £4300 (47.7%) has been invested. I like the idea of a 'hands off' P2P and will carry on with Bondmason for the time being. My query is, from investors experiences would I be better off withdrawing uninvested money and drip feeding it back, rather than placing larger sums in the first place?
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Post by littleoldlady on Apr 1, 2017 13:50:23 GMT
I deposited £9000 just over 28 days ago and so far only £4300 (47.7%) has been invested. I like the idea of a 'hands off' P2P and will carry on with Bondmason for the time being. My query is, from investors experiences would I be better off withdrawing uninvested money and drip feeding it back, rather than placing larger sums in the first place? I used the drip feed method to avoid having cash lying idle, but the trouble is that the 2% max rule means that only small amounts are invested at first. With your method you get invested much quicker but lose some interest (opportunity cost). I guess it depends on where the surplus cash would be if it was not on BM and what interest you would be getting on it. If it would be in a low rate account I would leave it with BM.
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Post by nush on Apr 3, 2017 20:19:31 GMT
they must really like me, i have £6 uninvested, every time i send new cash it take about a week to be fully invested again, i do only send small amounts though, nothing new to send now until after isa day. and now only 20p lol. time to add more funds or maybe i will wait until after isa day
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Post by stevefindlay on Apr 4, 2017 17:37:22 GMT
We have some good availability (new loans coming through) - we are just waiting for a number of loans to draw down.
I'm going to prepare some analysis on the best deposit method: drip feeding / all in one go / 2% vs 1% etc etc and then share (it may take a couple of days) - for those that want to be a little more active with their deployment strategy. I have some thoughts about how this can be optimised from a clients perspective, whilst keeping everything fair...
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Post by TheDriver on Apr 4, 2017 22:03:17 GMT
Thanks for the update stevefindlay ; hope the optimism for improved loan availability is borne out.
I guess the chosen funding method will depend on personal preference for idle funds vs slower funding; although if I get too many more sub 0.5% allocations I might opt for drip-feeding! Over a week and I'm still less than 20% invested, with a third of those for one month which will soon dilute investment level - however, I'll be happier with quality over quantity.
I'm intrigued about the "more active" deployment - but suspect it will be curtailed by the "fairness" criteria.
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Post by stub8535 on Apr 4, 2017 22:12:00 GMT
stevefindlay please start a new thread with your jottings rather than it be hidden away.
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Post by TheDriver on Apr 5, 2017 6:49:02 GMT
Seems to me this contribution by stevefindlay was useful in the context of this thread rather than being standalone. However, if some new opportunities / functionality becomes available a more visible specific announcement would be appropriate
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Post by stub8535 on Apr 5, 2017 7:08:59 GMT
TheDriver some experienced investors that have read, (understood and accepted before investing) what it says on the website about speed of lending may not want to trawl through the comments/ gripes on this thread about cash drag to find the nugget from Steve. This is the reason I requested Steve posts in a new thread. He can always post a link on this thread pointing to that post.
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Post by stevefindlay on Apr 5, 2017 8:57:27 GMT
I'll do both ;-)
I hope to get a chance to take a look in detail. Probably early next week / over the weekend.
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Post by TheDriver on Apr 5, 2017 19:28:41 GMT
TheDriver some experienced investors that have read, (understood and accepted before investing) what it says on the website about speed of lending may not want to trawl through the comments/ gripes on this thread about cash drag to find the nugget from Steve. This is the reason I requested Steve posts in a new thread. He can always post a link on this thread pointing to that post.
I understand what you're saying, but as a statement of intent the announcement is fairly meaningless until it comes to fruition. I think investors who are on the board and bothered about slow investment would be following this thread, and others just want to see the result. Therefore I don't see the point of another thread - but as it's not my call it not an issue to me
Ultimately, I'll be pleased to see performance meet expectation
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Post by TheDriver on Apr 8, 2017 18:00:51 GMT
As a comparison, a platform I recently left offer a managed fund targeting 6%, deploying funds "instantly" by trawling the SM at a max 5% exposure.
That's effectively how I first invested last year when I started with them. When I got out recently I had capital defaults from that portion of my portfolio totalling 12% against 9.43% net return - I can think of more satisfying ways of getting rid of money!
The fact they are currently reporting total Arrears/Losses approaching 5% from that period is untypical for anyone investing a balanced spread, because the defaults have been exclusively amongst the smaller loans (hence the £defaults are proportionally less than the 15% of loans which have gone pear-shaped - which had repaid about 2.5%).
So I'll go with BM's "slowly slowly catchy monkey" approach, with careful loan selection to minimise losses. I funded half my short-term investment target at 2%, intending to add more at 1% if all went well. The fact that's looking like around 2 months rather than one (I'm almost 25% deployed after almost 2 weeks) doesn't bother me, although I would like to see the delay recognised in marketing, such as admitting the reality that full investment takes 7 - 56 days.
Keep up the good work, Steve (plus colleagues) and congratulations on your track record and candid dialogue.
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Post by jimc99 on Apr 27, 2017 2:26:08 GMT
Am I right that the BM fees are applied to the investors total money on the site?
So its 1.5% but if the investors money is on average 80% invested in loans the charge becomes 1.5/0.8 = 1.875% for example.
I'm currently around 70% invested with a gross return of 8.2%. The net 6.5% is looking a bit optimistic at the moment.
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Post by bobthebuilder on Apr 27, 2017 2:41:22 GMT
No, the fees are charged only on the amount invested. There's no fee on amounts held as cash.
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Post by jimc99 on Apr 27, 2017 3:33:09 GMT
OK. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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