dawn
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Post by dawn on Jul 7, 2017 9:23:43 GMT
Are you sure it was PBL127 - my records show that one as repaying on 19th February 2017?
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mary
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Post by mary on Jul 7, 2017 9:27:08 GMT
Are you sure it was PBL127 - my records show that one as repaying on 19th February 2017? Sorry 125! Typo in the excitement of a repayment!
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Post by r1200gs on Jul 7, 2017 10:05:26 GMT
PLB127 just repaid - £620k - lets see what effect that has? 125? I doubt it will make even a small dent - most of these repayments will be moved out of the platform. A trend that will continue until investors see resolutions with the defaulted loans I only have one loan for sale, and there has been a significant up-tick in sales this morning. I do accept that many will withdraw though. We really do have a confidence crisis more than anything else. A few big payments, some defaults brought to a conclusion and I still think it's possible we can go back to famine on SM. Edit: Actually, quite a large increase in sales this morning, and I presume more to come when people get back from work.
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Post by GeorgeT on Jul 7, 2017 11:07:00 GMT
As I have just posted elsewhere the secondary market has been on fire after this repayment and I have got 10 loan part sold emails in my inbox as a result.
To put this into perspective, yesterday I did not sell a single loan part.
One more decent repayment and the secondary market would become like a desert - offering only sand.
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Post by beechside on Jul 7, 2017 11:07:38 GMT
Edit: Actually, quite a large increase in sales this morning, and I presume more to come when people get back from work. Not sure what evidence you have for that but I'd be delighted were it true! Both Jonah's graphs and the scripts report very little change in outstanding SM. In any case I, like many others, am sitting on large quantities that I want to put on the market. However, this latent demand is not worth triggering with so much already on the SM. For the first time in my history with Lendy, I have negative day loans because I've been unable to diversify fast enough. Am getting very twitchy about Lendy but there's no way out at the moment...
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Post by r1200gs on Jul 7, 2017 11:48:35 GMT
Edit: Actually, quite a large increase in sales this morning, and I presume more to come when people get back from work. Not sure what evidence you have for that but I'd be delighted were it true! Both Jonah's graphs and the scripts report very little change in outstanding SM. In any case I, like many others, am sitting on large quantities that I want to put on the market. However, this latent demand is not worth triggering with so much already on the SM. For the first time in my history with Lendy, I have negative day loans because I've been unable to diversify fast enough. Am getting very twitchy about Lendy but there's no way out at the moment... The evidence can be seen on the big posers palace on the Thames. I mean, it's not exactly blazing but sales are well up, so clearly some people are a little more optimistic. Obviously not everyone is pulling their funds out. I don't pretend to be able to tell the future, but I think a couple more loan repayments might cheer up the pessimists no end, particularly if they are defaults.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Jul 7, 2017 12:19:34 GMT
Not sure what evidence you have for that but I'd be delighted were it true! Both Jonah's graphs and the scripts report very little change in outstanding SM. In any case I, like many others, am sitting on large quantities that I want to put on the market. However, this latent demand is not worth triggering with so much already on the SM. For the first time in my history with Lendy, I have negative day loans because I've been unable to diversify fast enough. Am getting very twitchy about Lendy but there's no way out at the moment... The evidence can be seen on the big posers palace on the Thames. I mean, it's not exactly blazing but sales are well up, so clearly some people are a little more optimistic. Obviously not everyone is pulling their funds out. I don't pretend to be able to tell the future, but I think a couple more loan repayments might cheer up the pessimists no end, particularly if they are defaults. MIght cheer up the optimists. The pessimists are long out of the door. It may cause the realists to pause on the threshold.
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Post by GeorgeT on Jul 7, 2017 12:31:49 GMT
Today, I've sold quite a lot of DFL019, PBL150 and PBL151.
Last 2 days I sold nothing.
And having now checked on my queue positions I can advise I have moved up very nicely in a few others. Investor activity is strong.
This won't reflect fully in the Jonah SM availability graphs (although the dip is clear to see) because some investors, like me, will have responded by listing more loan parts for sale. Now I have the sold funds available for re-investment, I am able to put more on the SM without affecting my income.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 7, 2017 12:42:33 GMT
Even the queue for PBL101 has dipped...
By a whole £15. Only another ton, and I'm starting to sell...
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Post by skippyonspeed on Jul 7, 2017 12:55:00 GMT
Even the queue for PBL101 has dipped... By a whole £15. Only another ton, and I'm starting to sell... Better keep your beard trimmed else you will be tripping over it!!!
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on Jul 7, 2017 14:43:29 GMT
There has been some talk today after the repayment that the SM is moving again. Well, there is certainly some churn, but it is still flatlining at £7m - it simply hasn't moved. In fact, it has been at 7m since interest day - so while some are able to exit, it won't help LY fill new loans I've decided to exit (which is pending) because I fear there may be some issues surrounding the defaulted loans around the corner (hope I'm wrong, and will happily eat humble pie and jump back in if that is the case). I believe many others are doing the same. Being pedantic, it has fallen today, very slightly. Availability currently around £6.8 million - down from a peak of £8m about a month ago. I try and maintain a similar amount of my LY total up for sale. So if I sell £1k, I go through my loanbook and list the next £1k I want shot of. So my sales don't affect the availability stats. But they still happen. I'm on a carefully managed LY reduction strategy - which will continue until I reach my LY baseline figure which will amount to about half the total interest I have earned off the platform over the last 3 to 4 years. The amount I have invested on the LY platform reduces every week. But I hold some quality which very rarely even appears on the SM and therefore which I wish to hang onto and if possible get more of. I'm a bit surprised you have decided to exit. You are famous for being the King of Due Diligence and I rather got the impression you only invested in loans which ticked all the DD boxes and which you were happy to hold to term end or beyond, because you had done a belt and braces investigative job on your loans and were confident they were bomb proof. I assume your reason for exiting is a combination of 1. the fear of a messy, long drawn out platform failure/wind down procedure as a result of the defaults situation and 2. Because, currently, you can get better returns on your money elsewhere for no greater or, arguably, lower risk. Depending on the quality of your portfolio, a full exit could take some time, or even be unachievable. My position is that I remain in reduction mode and not exit mode. It's a sticky patch but I'm holding my nerve and I hope others act similarly in our collective interests. LY are listening and changes are afoot which will help a lot. Also, if the massive PBL143 does repay within the next 6 weeks as advised, that could be a total game changer and some early exiters might regret making a knee jerk decision and having to start from scratch again.
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Post by mack on Jul 7, 2017 15:11:26 GMT
I think you will be pie free Dude.
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GeorgeT
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Post by GeorgeT on Jul 7, 2017 15:25:53 GMT
................... The last loan I invested in was the Cement Factory, which was back in April .............. I'm surprised a near £5m loan against a troublesome cement site passed your checks but you avoided the later PBL178, PBL179, DFL022, DFL027, DFL028 and DFL029. All much smaller and longer dated 12% loans and consequently very rare, high quality, sought after and liquid in minutes on the SM. As your active investment involvement is a barometer of the health of the platform, I hope we see you back and will be able to ask you if you prefer your humble pie served with custard or ice cream. Good luck with selling your loan parts and rest assured if you put any quality on offer, I am still buying the good stuff.
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Post by mack on Jul 7, 2017 15:30:40 GMT
................... The last loan I invested in was the Cement Factory, which was back in April .............. I'm surprised a near £5m loan against a troublesome cement site passed your checks but you avoided the later PBL178, PBL179, DFL022, DFL027, DFL028 and DFL029. All much smaller and longer dated 12% loans and consequently very rare, high quality, sought after and liquid in minutes on the SM. As your active investment involvement is a barometer of the health of the platform, I hope we see you back and will be able to ask you if you prefer your humble pie served with custard or ice cream. Good luck with selling your loan parts and rest assured if you put any quality on offer, I am still buying the good stuff. Excellent comedy! High quality ....12% .... so funny!
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Post by elliotn on Jul 7, 2017 15:47:51 GMT
................... The last loan I invested in was the Cement Factory, which was back in April .............. I'm surprised a near £5m loan against a troublesome cement site passed your checks but you avoided the later PBL178, PBL179, DFL022, DFL027, DFL028 and DFL029. All much smaller and longer dated 12% loans and consequently very rare, high quality, sought after and liquid in minutes on the SM. As your active investment involvement is a barometer of the health of the platform, I hope we see you back and will be able to ask you if you prefer your humble pie served with custard or ice cream. Good luck with selling your loan parts and rest assured if you put any quality on offer, I am still buying the good stuff. Cement headlines of 12%, 365D, c50% purchase price should tick a lot of your boxes. For DD, no dirt on the borrower who was exercising a long term fixed option and the site had already appreciated above purchase price and development could not start during term so this was essentially a holding loan to secure the option which helped to de-risk alongside considerable borrower equity. A win-win for both strategies.
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