SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Nov 16, 2016 14:23:45 GMT
It will just appear on the SM without warning to be bagged by whoever has the fastest fingers.
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dawn
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Post by dawn on Nov 16, 2016 14:24:44 GMT
I interpreted that to mean any DFL tranches (not necessarily the whole DFL) that is under £100k will be put straight onto the SM for anyone to buy (ie without going through pre-funding).... happy to be corrected if I am wrong... EDit - crossed with Steve
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seeingred
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Post by seeingred on Nov 16, 2016 14:33:58 GMT
A large slice of DFL007 was dumped on the SM this morning, it vanished in about two blinks of an eye.
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star dust
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Post by star dust on Nov 16, 2016 14:42:51 GMT
So it was, how annoying SS ~ Slippery Slope. Think I might be sliding off myself soon as SM is totally impossible for me currently (and till next year at least) on too slow an Internet connection. There are other platforms you know SS.
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SteveT
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Post by SteveT on Nov 16, 2016 14:47:19 GMT
Yes, it's minor things like this that remind you that SS really take their lenders entirely for granted (and I speak as an overall fan of SS). Would it really have killed them to stick it on the pipeline, send a couple of emails and give everyone another modest slice? It's not the £50 allocation I care about, it's the sense they don't give a damn.
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Post by upland on Nov 16, 2016 15:10:04 GMT
So it was, how annoying SS ~ Slippery Slope. Think I might be sliding off myself soon as SM is totally impossible for me currently (and till next year at least) on too slow an Internet connection. There are other platforms you know SS. I did reasonably well with the SM several months ago but it just seems a quantum jump harder now and I too am beginning to examine where I put funds. There are easier portals.
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seeingred
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Post by seeingred on Nov 16, 2016 15:23:34 GMT
Maybe it depends on what fraction of total SS funding is from small/medium investors.
Maybe so long as the top predators can be kept on board, a turnover of smaller fish is of no concern.
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Post by sayyestocress on Nov 16, 2016 16:28:44 GMT
...Scots sometimes need a wee bit of assistance with English translation... If it's any consolation this Englishman was confused by the very same sentence.
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Post by supernumerary on Nov 16, 2016 17:05:53 GMT
...it's the sense they don't give a damn. IMHO, Saving Stream are at times forgetful and it is from this forgetfulness, that some of their problems are arising! For instance; [1] A 365 day pipeline loan goes to a 270 day loan (approx.) when live due to forgetfulness... [2] Stating that larger loans are safer, then a few months later, due to forgetfulness providing lower rates on smaller loans, because they are safer instead... [3] Announcing a new loan for the Saturday, then watching TV and forgetting that lenders had made efforts to fund it for that day, before the loan goes live on the Sunday... [4] Announcing that loans above £1,000,000 will be allocated as a percentage of funding level from lenders, then forgetting that and just changing it to bottom up for all loans... [5] Announcing that they had consulted lenders about reducing rates, but forgetting to announce who and how many lenders, they had consulted... [6] Announcing this new secondary market allocation approach, but forgetting that they had in place, a proven pipeline method already that lenders were happy with... In reading this list, there may be an element of déjà vu, but IMHO Saving Stream are doing their best, they are human and like all of us, they make mistakes. It can be frustrating at times, but when I get paid that interest every month, so far, it makes up for everything...
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 17:45:25 GMT
DFLs under £100k will be released by increasing the loan value as required, thus releasing additional availability to the general secondary market. A strange sentence which makes perfect sense, but only when someone tells you what it means! I was completely in the dark. Thanks SteveT and dawn for explaining.
It would have been nice if SS had informed us that they would dump £76,498 on the SM today by increasing DFL007. I was lucky and managed to secure a portion in the few minutes before it disappeared.
I'm assuming the above figure is correct. I calculated it from current loan value and the figure from cooling_dude 's DD thread for this loan (link).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 17:55:49 GMT
I'm working through my initial views on Trump at the moment and I'm concluding I'm too heavy in property, so will be reducing my holding here by 20%. Should happen easily with this change of position, the spliting of rates and the famine. Personally, I have lots of other things to do than sit and watch SS screens for a deal just appearing. If they want to do this silly thing could they do it in a sensible way, for instance always at 3pm, or 6pm (to let the office workers have a pop). Surely the money is not needed that second?
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Post by hantsowl on Nov 16, 2016 18:38:41 GMT
So it was, how annoying SS ~ Slippery Slope. Think I might be sliding off myself soon as SM is totally impossible for me currently (and till next year at least) on too slow an Internet connection. There are other platforms you know SS. This is VERY annoying. I have found DFL007 difficult to grab on the SM and was relying on getting another bit via the pipeline. With the new lower rates and ridiculous changes such as this I think that I may start moving funds elsewhere 😥
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Post by adrianc on Nov 16, 2016 18:52:51 GMT
I'm really not sure I can actually vote on this poll. There isn't a choice that describes my feelings.
Yes - well, not really, not 100%. No - even further away from that one. No view either way - definitely have a view.
If there was a "Well, kinda, but with some reservations" choice, I'd be there.
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Post by cooling_dude on Nov 16, 2016 20:01:02 GMT
I'm pretty sure it simply means that all tranches under 100k will be dumped on the SM.
However... I know what really happened here...
1. SS dumped DFL007 Tranche (£75,778) on the SM 2. Somebody shouts out.... "hang on a minute... didn't we say we wouldn't do that after the uproar it cause before" 3. Panic... 4. Quickly draw up a badly worded e-mail 5. A 'Wall Street Empire' party breaks out in the office
In all honesty; I can understand why SS have taken this decision. Although I am slightly annoyed that a FFF method is now applied for sub 100k tranches, any allocation would just be shrapnel.
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 20:26:20 GMT
But, prior to today (I believe), all new loan opportunities have been notified by e-mail. (by new, I mean 'new lending capital required'.) We always had a mail stating: 'PBLxxx/DFLxxx will be going live...today/tomorrow/Friday...' and we could look it up and prefund.
They could easily have sent an e-mail: 'DFL007 will be extended with £75k (ish) dropped on to the SM 16th November.' They could have given the time also.
Communicate!!!
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