gwenynwyr
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 14:29:49 GMT
Post by gwenynwyr on Nov 16, 2016 14:29:49 GMT
Is this T** A****, W*******, Norfolk or O*** H*** S****, Office to residential conversion, Liverpool centre?
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n
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Post by n on Nov 16, 2016 14:32:01 GMT
I wonder how long it will take savingstream to notice they spelt DFL009 wrong! |
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adrianc
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 14:42:22 GMT
Post by adrianc on Nov 16, 2016 14:42:22 GMT
Is this T** A****, W*******, Norfolk or O*** H*** S****, Office to residential conversion, Liverpool centre? Naaaaaarfk. They relied on the traditional number of fingers for the counting, forgetting the location.
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Nov 16, 2016 14:44:22 GMT
Post by puffin on Nov 16, 2016 14:44:22 GMT
I wonder how long it will take savingstream to notice they spelt DFL009 wrong! Until they read the forum  We currently have two DFL008's DFL008 <mod redacted link> DFL008 <mod redacted link>
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n
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 14:48:20 GMT
Post by n on Nov 16, 2016 14:48:20 GMT
They've noticed!
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twoheads
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Nov 16, 2016 18:20:16 GMT
Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 18:20:16 GMT
star dust , why do the asset names have to be st***ed out?
The names are freely available on the SS site (without logging in) and if I Google 'DFL008' I get the full asset name on page 1, fourth item. Interestingly, the DFL008 thread in this forum comes top but with a load of st*rs.
What is the reason for obfuscating this information in this blog site forum?
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ablender
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 18:25:50 GMT
Post by ablender on Nov 16, 2016 18:25:50 GMT
I wonder how long it will take savingstream to notice they spelt DFL009 wrong! Yes they forgot to use *****
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upland
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 18:39:37 GMT
Post by upland on Nov 16, 2016 18:39:37 GMT
I think that they are very slap dash in many ways. What does Legal Charge mean for the primary security ?
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adrianc
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Nov 16, 2016 18:48:59 GMT
Post by adrianc on Nov 16, 2016 18:48:59 GMT
star dust , why do the asset names have to be st***ed out?
The names are freely available on the SS site and if I Google 'DFL008' I get the full asset name on page 1, fourth item. Interestingly, the DFL008 thread in this forum comes top but with a load of st*rs.
What is the reason for obfuscating this information in this blog site? Because the decision was taken, way back when this forum was new and oldgrumpy was nowt but a cub, that thou shalt not identif borrowers anywhere but on the AC pink pages. The platform make it publicly accessible? It may be so, but the mods don't have the time to manage or track that. That's the platform's problem. Do Not Identify. End Of Argument. We are here within the rules. if we do not like the rules, we do not need to be here. (btw, this isn't a blog, it's a forum)
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 19:02:52 GMT
thou shalt not identify borrowers anywhere but on the AC pink pages. (btw, this isn't a blog, it's a forum) I agree with not identifying the borrower. What I'm talking about is identifying the asset name.
The rules state: 'DO NOT post information1 that allows a borrower to be identified unless either the borrower themselves or the P2x platform have already made that information publicly accessible (e.g. on a website not needing a log in or sign up).'
The SS site shows the asset names without logging in or signing up. That's my point.
('blog' corrected to 'forum' - thanks.)
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adrianc
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DFL008
Nov 16, 2016 19:08:16 GMT
Post by adrianc on Nov 16, 2016 19:08:16 GMT
thou shalt not identify borrowers anywhere but on the AC pink pages. (btw, this isn't a blog, it's a forum) I agree with not identifying the borrower. What I'm talking about is identifying the asset name. And that doesn't identify the borrower?
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twoheads
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Nov 16, 2016 19:21:10 GMT
Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 19:21:10 GMT
I agree with not identifying the borrower. What I'm talking about is identifying the asset name. And that doesn't identify the borrower? No it doesn't. You have to do quite a lot of digging (in some cases) to identify the borrower. Many threads in this forum have st***ed out names of individuals or companies identified as actual borrowers and I fully agree with that obfuscation.
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star dust
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Post by star dust on Nov 16, 2016 19:30:20 GMT
I agree with not identifying the borrower. What I'm talking about is identifying the asset name.
The rules state: 'DO NOT post information1 that allows a borrower to be identified unless either the borrower themselves or the P2x platform have already made that information publicly accessible (e.g. on a website not needing a log in or sign up).'
The SS site shows the asset names without logging in or signing up. That's my point.
('blog' corrected to 'forum' - thanks.)
The point (1) which you have omitted states "1: Information includes, but is not limited to: the name or contact details of the borrower; a link to a website that names them; phrases or hints that when web searched lead to the borrower being identified." The Forum Rules also state "Note: The forum moderators will always err on the side of caution both to protect themselves, the forum and individual posters." Naming and identifying the borrower's asset/s can (in some cases very easily) lead to identifying the borrower. The forum rules exist to protect members (including the volunteer Mod team), platforms and borrowers alike from potentially costly and time-consuming legal headaches. This issue comes up on a regular basis, and has been debated at length on quite a number of occasions before, but there is quite an informative post on this matter made by SteveT recently here
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 16, 2016 19:47:07 GMT
twoheads : adrianc is correct. Yes the forum rule does talk about 'unless publicly made available'. That was constructed to allow for exception cases of e.g. Mention of / linking to Platform Marketing material and hence it would clearly be with the borrower's permission. It was not constructed to cater for a particular platform which singularly / exceptionally in the industry plasters all its borrower's details all over the front page of its website with no requirement for log in. For the purposes of consistency, and to protect against a situation in future where that platform decides to revert to making that information only available to those logged into the site, no exception is being made. Even if that does on the basis of what they do TODAY seem incongruous/illogical. So please feel free to use E.G. DFL008 but do not use the asset / borrower name; the fact that the loan id could allow every tom dick and potentially even harry to connect to the borrower, that is the platform's issue; and should a change of policy on the part of the platform alter that in the future, we will not be left hanging out on a very long limb. Those are the rules as applied in practise, regardless of any strict interpretation. Its a forum and not a court of law :-)
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twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Nov 16, 2016 20:09:45 GMT
star dust, bracknellboy, adrianc, Many thanks for your responses.
I do not intend breaking any of the rules; I seek clarification/explanation only. You have expended time and effort in this regard and I am grateful.
Sorry to have asked!
I'll go back to trawling the SM now.
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