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Uown
Jun 7, 2017 8:37:39 GMT
Post by ding on Jun 7, 2017 8:37:39 GMT
Hi Ding, thanks for your question. In answer to the first part of the question, if the property is vacant there would be no income paid, however all properties on the platform are tenanted now and for the 2017/2018 academic year. We are also paying out rent to all current investors in the properties at the moment, also it helps that for these particular properties we have an established relationship with a sunday times award winning letting/management agent in Leeds . The second part of that question, we have three different approaches that help with regards to property maintenance, firstly insurance, secondly maintenance allowance deducted from the rent, thirdly tenant deposits. These measures will protect the investors. We hope that helps. Thanks - I thought that would be the case. Invested £400, £300, £300 across the 3 properties. Extra shares received after a few minutes.
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Post by kaya on Jun 7, 2017 8:48:27 GMT
Overall I like the look of the set-up, with the backing of an established in-house property & letting business. No problem with market value valuations either (as opposed to 'below market value' purchases - as long as the valuations are realistic.
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Post by uown on Jun 7, 2017 11:35:42 GMT
Thanks guys. Just wanted to let the people who have recently invested and claimed our offer know that we are starting part two of the offer today. There is a chance to increase the top up from 20% to 30%. If you have invested you will be receiving an email, all you have to do is forward on the email to 5 friends and [email protected] and then have one of your friends or family invest £200 or more. Just to break it down, if you have invested 1,000 there is potentially another £100 of free shares available. All the best,
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Jun 8, 2017 10:58:10 GMT
Post by littonowl on Jun 8, 2017 10:58:10 GMT
Hi uown Like the site and your open and honest answers on this forum. With that in mind, and before I invest, I've a few queries which I'd appreciate if you could address: 1) HMO Licences - at the time of the respective surveyors reports, one property didn't have a licence ('not required'?), one had a licence expiring in January and one towards the end of this month. Can you confirm the new licences have been obtained or in the case of the June expiry, applied for/granted? 2) There doesn't appear to be a set term for holding the properties? How is it determined if or when to sell the properties in the future? Democratic vote by shareholders? 3) The properties appear to be only very slowly filling. As they are currently owned by a strategic partner, do you still require them to be fully funded and if so, is there a cut off date for this to happen and for money to be returned to investors? Thanks in advance...
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Uown
Jun 8, 2017 11:09:08 GMT
Post by kaya on Jun 8, 2017 11:09:08 GMT
Attention uown Deposit not credited
After making an initial small deposit yesterday morning (credited about 11.am), a larger deposit was made at 11.15 am yesterday. STILL not credited to my account. Sorry to have to make a negative comment, but this is not good enough. It is making me nervous and is wasting my time. My emails and contact attempts have so far received no response, and I would be on the phone to you right now but there is no number to call. Edit 25 minutes later) funds now credited!
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Uown
Jun 8, 2017 13:18:44 GMT
Post by kaya on Jun 8, 2017 13:18:44 GMT
er... not having a good day here. The system will not let me accept the T & C's for investing in a property. When I try to tick the box, it just keeps flashing up the T & C page again.
Should I take this as a sign.....?
Edit) ah, I see now that the 'Accept' banner, which appears at the bottom of the T & C page and needs to be ticked, does not automatically appear on the laptop I am using (and it is a 17" !), but a bit of jiggling about with this and that gets it to appear.
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Jun 8, 2017 14:28:22 GMT
Post by littonowl on Jun 8, 2017 14:28:22 GMT
Hi guys just a quick update we are running an offer for this week where we are basically topping up any investment you make by 20%, for every £100 you invest we will add on £20 of free shares in the properties that you choose to invest in. Maximum amount of free shares available per user is £200. Enjoy, Thanks for the generous offer uown , just deposited some cash and dipped a toe in all 3 investments. Got the 20% additional shares in the first property within a couple of minutes (thank you very much!), but no sign of the 20% shares in the other 2 investments...? Please advise, as I understood from the above post and a subsequent post of yours that the 20% was against all investments? Edit. Additional 20% shares now been added to other 2 investments! Thank you very much!
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Post by Neil_P2PBlog on Jun 8, 2017 19:34:44 GMT
3) The properties appear to be only very slowly filling. As they are currently owned by a strategic partner, do you still require them to be fully funded and if so, is there a cut off date for this to happen and for money to be returned to investors? If you check the land registry landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd/search it appears they are still in the hands of the original owners (e.g. Number 57 appears to have last sold in 1999, even though I've already received dividends from it). My guess is the properties currently are owned by the parents firm, an independent valuation is carried out and then the property is crowdfunded from this on Uown.
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Jun 9, 2017 11:14:45 GMT
Post by Steerpike on Jun 9, 2017 11:14:45 GMT
If anyone is still thinking of investing here the 20% bonus investment ends today, unless UOWN decide to extend the offer...
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Post by kaya on Jun 9, 2017 13:19:18 GMT
I think liquidity is a factor that might presently inhibit new investors at uown As already mentioned, clarification of what will happen if the properties fail to complete funding might help. If (for example after 1 year) from launch this has not happened, will the SPV'S be closed down and investor money returned? Obviously you do not want to consider this a possibility, but if you clarify this, it will surely help the flow of further investment. Other possibilities that might help are: -Offering a buyback guarantee - it is all very well saying you hope to process a sell order within 1 month, but even once a secondary market is established, liquidity remains wholly unknown at this time. Having no fixed term on these investments also means more uncertainty re liquidity. -guaranteeing a minimum of rental yield (perhaps a bit less than the full projected amount) -once a secondary market is established, making it free of your fees for buyers - but allowing sellers to add a small premium (or discount) +/- 2%. This would mean that investors could sell & diversify, and would create a good marketplace. It would also help to increase investment in the primary market - but with a Uown 2% fee on the primary market, it is not financially viable to sell on later & buy into a new investment, unless the fees can be at least partially recouped. But with fees only charged on primary investments, you might have a good model that puts you way ahead of PM. -increasing personal information. The 'dumbed down' approach might appeal to some (not to me), but there will always be those who want to know more about who you are on the website. Actually I think you have a good story to tell and what looks like a solid business foundation behind you, and these should be selling points. I was wondering how many are in your team at present etc but there is zero information. A business phone number should also be supplied, as it is important to be openly contactable. It is with risk that new investors invest, and at the moment there are a lot of uncertainties, though of course we all hope for success. Anyway, these are just some opinions from an opinionated investor. Feel free to ignore! Please do note that the 'dumbed down' approach will put some people off p2pindependentforum.com/post/169312
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Jun 9, 2017 13:44:38 GMT
Post by littonowl on Jun 9, 2017 13:44:38 GMT
I think liquidity is a factor that might presently inhibit new investors at uown As already mentioned, clarification of what will happen if the properties fail to complete funding might help. If (for example after 1 year) from launch this has not happened, will the SPV'S be closed down and investor money returned? Obviously you do not want to consider this a possibility, but if you clarify this, it will surely help the flow of further investment. Other possibilities that might help are: -Offering a buyback guarantee - it is all very well saying you hope to process a sell order within 3 weeks, but even once a secondary market is established, liquidity remains wholly unknown at this time. Having no fixed term on these investments also means more uncertainty re liquidity. -guaranteeing a minimum of rental yield (perhaps a bit less than the full projected amount) -once a secondary market is established, making it free of your fees for buyers - but allowing sellers to add a small premium (or discount) +/- 2%. This would mean that investors could sell & diversify, and would create a good marketplace. It would also help to increase investment in the primary market - but with a Uown 2% fee on the primary market, it is not financially viable to sell on later & buy into a new investment, unless the fees can be at least partially recouped. But with fees only charged on primary investments, you might have a good model that puts you way ahead of PM. -increasing personal information. The 'dumbed down' approach might appeal to some (not to me), but there will always be those who want to know more about who you are on the website. Actually I think you have a good story to tell and what looks like a solid business foundation behind you, and these should be selling points. I was wondering how many are in your team at present etc but there is zero information. A business phone number should also be supplied, as it is important to be openly contactable. It is with risk that new investors invest, and at the moment there are a lot of uncertainties, though of course we all hope for success. Anyway, these are just some opinions from an opinionated investor. Feel free to ignore! All very good points for consideration imo kaya, and a contact number is indeed a vital thing to be added asap, I'd have thought.
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Uown
Jun 10, 2017 14:54:38 GMT
Post by valuehunter on Jun 10, 2017 14:54:38 GMT
Thanks guys. Just wanted to let the people who have recently invested and claimed our offer know that we are starting part two of the offer today. There is a chance to increase the top up from 20% to 30%. If you have invested you will be receiving an email, all you have to do is forward on the email to 5 friends and [email protected] and then have one of your friends or family invest £200 or more. Just to break it down, if you have invested 1,000 there is potentially another £100 of free shares available. All the best, When will the extra 100 shares be credited? Thanks
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Jun 10, 2017 15:06:19 GMT
Post by kaya on Jun 10, 2017 15:06:19 GMT
The blurb does say this: If not enough people decide to back it, everyone gets their money back. Timescale unknown.
And this Email your complaints (or congratulations) to [email protected] or call 0203 504 5678.
...though that number is not in the 'contact us' section.
You have certainly set the bar high by launching 3 properties all at once, and not cheap either - this looks more ambitious and better than a cheap dowdy mid-terrace in County Durham - but I suspect that you might need to keep offering that 20% deal to new investors, if you can afford it. It takes time for word to get around, but look at the interest at Huddle Capital - it will cost them a packet though.
The new 5 email offer might work better if there is an incentive for the referred person to invest.
Is uown better re fees? There are fees added on to the valuation, and if compared to a property at PM which has underwritten rent and where there are no direct fees to invest, there might not be much it it. Uown have no various costs from buying (or selling) to factor in either. Obviously too soon to say if rental yields will deliver, or if valuations are fair and accurate.
By the way guys, you might want to correct your spelling of 'representative' in this thread here p2pindependentforum.com/post/192967/thread It creates a bad impresshun!
Regards, hope things go well for all of us.
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Post by uown on Jun 12, 2017 16:02:33 GMT
Hi Guys,
Firstly for those of you that invested whilst we have had the offer on, thanks we are looking forward to working together with you in the future.
Just to answer some of the questions that have come up.
1) For ** s******e s****t the HMO licesnse was up for renewal in January just gone, we renewed it, I'll see if I can attach a picture at some point, the other property Beechwood mount is due for renewal at the end of this month, we are aware and are processing the renewal.
2) There is a secondary market, so you can sell whenever you like when the property is fully funded.
3) We are only just starting off so initially we just didn't have the user base to make notable headway, but now our sales have really picked up steam, we are breaking our own internal records every month and the word does seem to be getting out there. We don't really have a cut off point from the property owners for funding. If for whatever reason we couldn't fund the properties all investors would get their money back.
Glad that cleared up, its worth noting that payments for Bank wires get processed at two times during the day 11am and 4pm (Not too sure if thats GMT or GMT+1) so there can be a delay if you pay any time between those times.
All good points, will look into them as things develops.
Can one of the admins help me change it? I only just noticed it now, but now I can't unsee it. It was done for me by someone else when I signed up on here.
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Jun 13, 2017 9:26:03 GMT
Post by kaya on Jun 13, 2017 9:26:03 GMT
Contact Admin uown, I'm sure they will help you out. By the way my deposit apparently missed both the 4pm and the 11.am next day slots, thus my nervous disposition (especially when dealing with a new place). Re getting these deals over the line, personally I think you will have to sacrifice any hope of profits on these first deals and go for a proper long-term promotion, e.g. like scrapping all fees on these deals and offer cashback/free shares on all investments. Or something like that. Once they are over the line you are up and running, but it may take a bit of real sacrifice to get there. Essential to get there, no matter the cost.
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