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Post by jackpease on Mar 20, 2017 11:10:13 GMT
It was a magnificent day for SS. ..................Welcome back to number one on the charts SS. Well said. I'm sure many will reply re-airing The Gripes but I am seeing a near-perfect market at work here with loans filling and huge amounts of money flowing in, these are exciting days at SS especially for those that lose their fixation with 12% being realistic for 'good quality' loans in today's market. Jack P
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:22:24 GMT
It was a magnificent day for SS... And working all weekend, right through to so late on a Sunday. Yeah, I'm sure some moaners will say its their own fault etc... but for me, being prepared to put in those kind of hours shows a dedication to getting things right.
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Post by elliotn on Mar 20, 2017 11:27:07 GMT
It was a magnificent day for SS... And working all weekend, right through to so late on a Sunday. Yeah, I'm sure some moaners will say its their own fault etc... but for me, being prepared to put in those kind of hours shows a dedication to getting things right. Above and beyond considering the football, rugby and sailing foregone 😎
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Post by cooling_dude on Mar 20, 2017 11:29:15 GMT
It was a successful Sunday after a missed "Go-Live" date; however, what I was pleased to see was the e-mail to advise there was a delay, and the new "Go-Live" date successfully met. Kudos to SS for a successful day. Not sure I agree with the rest of your post GeorgeT ; genuine concerns and observations doesn't strike me as a reason not to engage, and one successful day does not (IMO) return SS to top spot; there are still concerns about customer service, openness and integrity at SS, all still present
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:33:47 GMT
and one successful day does not (IMO) return SS to top spot You have to admit though, when things go well at SS, the sheer speed and quantity of money sloshing around the platform is very impressive indeed Compare and contrast to the current 'top spot' MT, where the deal pipeline has dried up completely, and I can't even get peanuts invested any more...
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Post by cooling_dude on Mar 20, 2017 11:40:29 GMT
and one successful day does not (IMO) return SS to top spot You have to admit though, when things go well at SS, the sheer speed and quantity of money sloshing around the platform is very impressive indeed Compare and contrast to the current 'top spot' MT, where the deal pipeline has dried up completely, and I can't even get peanuts invested any more... MT need loans; there does seem to be some in the pipeline, but I agree it has become a frustrated marketplace I can't complain about SS loan flow and ability to process loans quickly and efficiently; best in the business.
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Post by guff on Mar 20, 2017 15:16:33 GMT
You have to admit though, when things go well at SS, the sheer speed and quantity of money sloshing around the platform is very impressive indeed Compare and contrast to the current 'top spot' MT, where the deal pipeline has dried up completely, and I can't even get peanuts invested any more... MT need loans; there does seem to be some in the pipeline, but I agree it has become a frustrated marketplace I can't complain about SS loan flow and ability to process loans quickly and efficiently; best in the business. Best in one important aspect, but what about the quality of the loans? And VRs? And communications? And 'recent updates'? And surveyor's reports? And speed of withdrawal?
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Post by cooling_dude on Mar 20, 2017 15:24:58 GMT
MT need loans; there does seem to be some in the pipeline, but I agree it has become a frustrated marketplace I can't complain about SS loan flow and ability to process loans quickly and efficiently; best in the business. Best in one important aspect, but what about the quality of the loans? And VRs? And communications? And 'recent updates'? And surveyor's reports? And speed of withdrawal? I was only referring to the churn of new loans; there are many negatives, and you list some of them. Quality of the loans is subjective; it goes hand in hand with the inadequate information SS provide, as this is P2P and it is entirely up to the investor whether they want to invest or not, but that should be based on information only SS can provide.
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Post by guff on Mar 20, 2017 15:32:07 GMT
Best in one important aspect, but what about the quality of the loans? And VRs? And communications? And 'recent updates'? And surveyor's reports? And speed of withdrawal? I was only referring to the churn of new loans; there are many negatives, and you list some of them. Quality of the loans is subjective; it goes hand in hand with the inadequate information SS provide, as this is P2P and it is entirely up to the investor whether they want to invest or not, but that should be based on information only SS can provide. … and won't. Some of the other negative aspects are tolerable, but it is denying investors access to information that SS have which is required for investors to perform their own due diligence which SS insist on that annoys me and makes the other negative aspects more important. Any progress on this aspect Paul64 ?
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Post by Paul64 on Mar 20, 2017 16:00:51 GMT
Hi Guff, thanks for your message. You are right, we are not perfect, but are making some progress in the areas you mention. We are still unable to provide some of the more detailed information you would like owing to certain legal restrictions in place. They are not however being ignored, and remain on my 'to work on' list with the lawyers, borrowers, and our own credit committee.
You will be able to see better laid out Loan Particulars, and we do monitor both the forum, and our own support desk for the most frequently asked Qs about our loans, so we can do our best to provide as much detail on each loan as we can, and to improve the transparency as we move forward. I am sure you might see this as a PR answer, but I am confident that transparency will improve over time. I just cannot promise it fully today. Of course P2P is about bringing lender and borrowers together and there will always be a 'caveat emptor' dimension to this type of investment. Paul
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Post by cooling_dude on Mar 20, 2017 16:11:38 GMT
They are not however being ignored, and remain on my 'to work on' list with the lawyers, borrowers, and our own credit committee. That's good news - Thanks for the update I think you need to do a better job of keeping investors updated with DFLs - I would prefer to see QS reports, but failing that a simple update on progress of the project would be nice. Some of the DFL have no updates on the progress, and we have no idea what our money has been spent on, or what future funds will be used for.
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Post by spyrogyra on Mar 20, 2017 16:20:04 GMT
For me, the litmus of success is the number of loans in defaults. If problems can't be resolved in 180 days after the initial 183 (365) days, it is very likely that some capital will be lost. At least on 70% LTVs with optimistic valuations.
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Post by guff on Mar 21, 2017 10:44:46 GMT
Hi Guff, thanks for your message. You are right, we are not perfect, but are making some progress in the areas you mention. We are still unable to provide some of the more detailed information you would like owing to certain legal restrictions in place. They are not however being ignored, and remain on my 'to work on' list with the lawyers, borrowers, and our own credit committee. You will be able to see better laid out Loan Particulars, and we do monitor both the forum, and our own support desk for the most frequently asked Qs about our loans, so we can do our best to provide as much detail on each loan as we can, and to improve the transparency as we move forward. I am sure you might see this as a PR answer, but I am confident that transparency will improve over time. I just cannot promise it fully today. Of course P2P is about bringing lender and borrowers together and there will always be a 'caveat emptor' dimension to this type of investment. Paul With due respect Paul64 , what possible legal restriction stops you releasing MS reports to the people stumping up their money to continue the developments? You manage to provide us with VRs, so why not MS reports? If you are going to provide MS reports, then when? If you aren't, then why not? I am only an engineer and no expert in these matters, but I thought that the UK had moved away from the caveat emptor and information asymmetry, with protection afforded by the likes of the Consumer Rights Act 2015. I believe that SS owe investors a duty of care and by denying access to crucial documents during development, SS are breaching that duty. This is especially so since you changed the Ts&Cs and we investors are now lending directly to borrowers.
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Post by jamesc on Mar 22, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
What a difference 1% makes, two loans similar sizes one DFL19 12% Over subscribed and none on the SM and DFL17 11% looks about 50% subscribed given more than £2mln was on the SM after launch and at least 3 more £300k slices have hit the SM yes I think 19 is a better loan but does it really all come down to the 1% ?
Yes I know some will say PBL035 was rolled into DFL19 and PBL073 repaid, but it also followed DFL017 when a lot of the excess funds had already been eaten up and when they SM was fully laden. Whereas DFL017 came first to a fairly barren SM. Just mindless thoughts but still think its interesting how sensitive the rate is. And I have to own up personally also guilty, went for max allocation for 19 and zero for 17.
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Post by adrianc on Mar 22, 2017 16:57:24 GMT
What a difference 1% makes, two loans similar sizes one DFL19 12% Over subscribed and none on the SM and DFL17 11% looks about 50% subscribed The biggest difference is that I'm not alone in not wanting to go near the mess that's DFL017 at ANY price...
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