Liz
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Post by Liz on Apr 3, 2017 15:34:49 GMT
Maybe and only a guess is that they paid interest on loans when they were up for sale. Paul64 is this correct. It would be nice to know wat has happened. Good thought... which had also crossed my mind but I think it is unlikely because a selling loan part has an end date and so should behave just like a sold loan part in the interest run.
I cannot check whether you're right as I had nothing selling overnight during any of March.
Are you quite sure you haven't inadvertently bought into something at sub-12% level?
My negative balance first appears in the transactions in the 1st week of March, starts off at £3.20 then adjusts several times and is now at £3.40. So this has nothing to do with the interest run in my case. I am perplexed and worried about their system now.
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Post by twoheads on Apr 3, 2017 15:42:03 GMT
Another possible error is that they accidentally paid interest on some IA or DEF loans and have decided to take that back.
Again - I can't check as I don't have any.
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Liz
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Post by Liz on Apr 3, 2017 15:45:05 GMT
Maybe and only a guess is that they paid interest on loans when they were up for sale. Paul64 is this correct. It would be nice to know wat has happened. Good thought... which had also crossed my mind but I think it is unlikely because a selling loan part has an end date and so should behave just like a sold loan part in the interest run.
I cannot check whether you're right as I had nothing selling overnight during any of March.
Are you quite sure you haven't inadvertently bought into something at sub-12% level?
Just double checked and no I haven't. I have only bought 150,151,157 &158 aswell as DFL 1,2,4,5,8,9 and 12. Before that 139, 140,142, 143 and 147. That takes me to when all loans were 12%. I suggest you all check your March transactions for negative balances before the interest run.
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Liz
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Post by Liz on Apr 3, 2017 15:45:57 GMT
Another possible error is that they accidentally paid interest on some IA or DEF loans and have decided to take that back.
Again - I can't check as I don't have any. Nope. I don't hold any negative loans.
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Post by ablender on Apr 3, 2017 15:50:16 GMT
I haven't voted; there is no option for me. It doesn't make me angry; I'm of the opinion SS do have the right to take their money back, but the fact is, it should happen in the first place savingstream can take their money back but in my case I have never had any loan parts apart from 12%. If the error was in the other loan parts I do not see why my balance went down. In the meantime I am still waiting for a reply to my email. Paul64 might want to comment on this.
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seeingred
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Post by seeingred on Apr 3, 2017 15:53:26 GMT
" Liz said My negative balance first appears in the transactions in the 1st week of March, starts off at £3.20 then adjusts several times and is now at £3.40. So this has nothing to do with the interest run in my case. I am perplexed and worried about their system now. That is weird if true. First week in March - a month ago? I've never noticed anything puzzling before the present 'episode' but then again I have not been looking for it. All I keep a record of is my overall loans balance. I've never tried calculating my own interest - I know some people do use spreadsheets to do this - it acts as a valuable check on what SHOULD be a robust system. As with all bank statements you just assume that entries are correct. I do check credit card and bank transactions. I have never found an error.
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ianj
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Post by ianj on Apr 3, 2017 15:53:52 GMT
"Should Saving Stream EVER alter existing transactions? ", rubbish question. I choose YES, because in the second or so it took to read I had thought of several reasons you might want to alter a transaction. Data corruption (hardware fault) sprung immediately to mind. Rubbish question? Poorly worded and subjective maybe, but in essance, asking a very sensible question. Just my opinion. I've no accounting knowlege, and I'll be quite happy to be corrected, but surely 'tampering' with figures, rather than entering a corrective transaction, means there is now no accurate audit trail? That the right phrase, isn't it? Maybe they can't afford real accountants, and rely on the chap who regulary alters loan updates - you know, the one who lives up tp Henry Ford's "History is bunk" philosophy!
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Post by twoheads on Apr 3, 2017 16:02:20 GMT
My negative balance first appears in the transactions in the 1st week of March, starts off at £3.20 then adjusts several times and is now at £3.40. So this has nothing to do with the interest run in my case. I am perplexed and worried about their system now. And I take it that during March, while using the site, your balance was never negative?
Another guess: It sounds to me like they've adjusted an earlier (e.g. February) interest payment downwards which has caused all subsequent balances to be adjusted downwards, taking your historical balances during March from the positives you remember to make some negatives after their adjustment of history.
This is precisely why I and others want an inviolable transaction log with any necessary adjustments appended and time stamped at the time of the correction. Such adjusting transactions would also need some description as to their reason and purpose (e.g. 'Interest correction on loan part ID 1234567' or similar).
If we could trust Lendy's version to be inviolable, then those of us who pedantically download our transactions would not need to.
Since it appears you have not saved your transaction log, you are relying on Lendy's somewhat liquid version and now they've adjusted it, unless they can tell you then you have little hope of finding what adjustment they actually made.
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seeingred
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Post by seeingred on Apr 3, 2017 16:03:29 GMT
Semantics: There was previously an inaccurate audit trail. Something went wrong. So there is now an updated and accurate audit trail. Except there is no evidence that anything ever went wrong. Which it didn't of course, because it would be bad form to have to admit it.
I have little doubt that the amended balances will be correct, but only knowledge of exactly what went wrong can counter suspicions that it couldn't happen again.
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Post by Paul64 on Apr 3, 2017 16:07:24 GMT
No conspiracy I am afraid, despite the theories. It was a simple admin error, which credited March's interest at a flat 12%pa across all loan parts. This was corrected over the weekend, but it did result in some investors receiving less interest than stated on Saturday for loan parts that should be paying less than 12%pa. I'm sorry it happened, but nobody should be disadvantaged. Please though contact support via lendy.co.uk/contact if you have any account specific questions and the team will happily look to investigate them on your behalf.
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will
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Post by will on Apr 3, 2017 16:17:45 GMT
Semantics: There was previously an inaccurate audit trail. Something went wrong. So there is now an updated and accurate audit trail. Except there is no evidence that anything ever went wrong. Which it didn't of course, because it would be bad form to have to admit it. I have little doubt that the amended balances will be correct, but only knowledge of exactly what went wrong can counter suspicions that it couldn't happen again. If you'd exported the transactions before the fix and imported them into 3rd party software then this is far more than semantics. If SS decided to go through your transaction history and give you a big chunk of a loan they're struggling to shift while taking a chunk of a popular loan and replied with "Well that's what you bought, look at the transactions" when you queried it, it'd be more than semantics. An audit trail is not an audit trail if it can be changed.
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will
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Post by will on Apr 3, 2017 16:19:17 GMT
No conspiracy I am afraid, despite the theories. It was a simple admin error, which credited March's interest at a flat 12%pa across all loan parts. This was corrected over the weekend, but it did result in some investors receiving less interest than stated on Saturday for loan parts that should be paying less than 12%pa. I'm sorry it happened, but nobody should be disadvantaged. Please though contact support via lendy.co.uk/contact if you have any account specific questions and the team will happily look to investigate them on your behalf. There are numerous users who don't hold sub-12% loans who have had their balances amended, so that response doesn't stack up.
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Post by locutus on Apr 3, 2017 16:19:21 GMT
No conspiracy I am afraid, despite the theories. It was a simple admin error, which credited March's interest at a flat 12%pa across all loan parts. This was corrected over the weekend, but it did result in some investors receiving less interest than stated on Saturday for loan parts that should be paying less than 12%pa. I'm sorry it happened, but nobody should be disadvantaged. Please though contact support via lendy.co.uk/contact if you have any account specific questions and the team will happily look to investigate them on your behalf. Paul, errors can and do happen - that's life. However, rather than adjusting previously posted figures retrospectively, you should really be appending corrections as per standard accounting practices.
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Post by jamesc on Apr 3, 2017 16:21:06 GMT
No conspiracy I am afraid, despite the theories. It was a simple admin error, which credited March's interest at a flat 12%pa across all loan parts. This was corrected over the weekend, but it did result in some investors receiving less interest than stated on Saturday for loan parts that should be paying less than 12%pa. I'm sorry it happened, but nobody should be disadvantaged. Please though contact support via lendy.co.uk/contact if you have any account specific questions and the team will happily look to investigate them on your behalf. Fair enough we all make mistakes, but that does not answer the question for those of us that don't dabble in any loans less than 12%, why were our interest payments changed ?
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Post by elliotn on Apr 3, 2017 16:21:33 GMT
/ off topic hat on
What 3P software are people pulling their p2p transactions in to, thanks.
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