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Post by registerme on Jun 6, 2017 16:36:52 GMT
/mod hat on
Be specific, back up arguments, provide supporting evidence and as long as nothing illegal is being espoused I doubt that we'd have a problem with it. Comments like "all Muslims are terrorists" will get sanctioned quickly and firmly. As will anything that alludes to violence, or hate speech directed towards individuals or populations.
/mod hat off
Bear in mind that introducing division and creating discord is entirely the point of the recent IS inspired (or Daesh, a term I prefer) attacks, both in the UK and across Europe.
Those twits who ran amok in Borough Market on Saturday night? The idiot who blew children up in Manchester? Lambaste them for all you are worth. Over-generalise and you just play into the hands of the nihilists misanthropic religious extremists.
Anyway, back to what we should be talking about - the crisis in social care, NHS funding, Brexit, whether Abbott can count or McDonnell is a Marxist, the death / resurrection of UKIP, money trees and "strong and stable" or "weak and wobbly" et cetera. Because allowing those idiots to influence the political debate again, unfortunately, plays to their agenda. About the only thing I agree with Trump on is that they are losers. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by stub8535 on Jun 6, 2017 16:49:26 GMT
Try not to show anything approaching wealth though, because if the government does not take it to "redistribute" it, half starved thieves will. I'm amazed that anybody taking part in this forum would apparently vote labour! Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas! "Try not to show anything approaching wealth though, because if the government does not take it to "redistribute" it" If any forumites have come across the website house price crash they might remember that land value tax was a fixation with many of it’s contributors, it may still be for all I know, I haven’t visited the site for years but if it is then I bet they will be voting Labour: www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/06/john-bald-labours-land-value-tax-is-a-real-and-present-menace-to-every-homeowner.htmlThe best tool the tories have. D Abbott! Waracxxkup.
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Post by ozboy on Jun 6, 2017 16:50:57 GMT
The best tool the tories have. D Abbott! Waracxxkup. Dontcha just wanna slap her with a wet fish. Insult to fish I know.
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Post by stub8535 on Jun 6, 2017 16:58:23 GMT
I have reached the conclusion that Labour central committee do not want to win this election. What a lousy way to run a campaign.
They want May et al to take us out of Europe and continue to screw the NHS, the police, education and everything else into the ground.
Wheres my aircraft keys to escape to St Kilda and live in isolation?
Prediction change Tory landslide🤢😠😢
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 6, 2017 17:02:10 GMT
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 6, 2017 17:09:41 GMT
/mod hat on Be specific, back up arguments, provide supporting evidence and as long as nothing illegal is being espoused I doubt that we'd have a problem with it. Comments like "all Muslims are terrorists" will get sanctioned quickly and firmly. As will anything that alludes to violence, or hate speech directed towards individuals or populations./mod hat off Bear in mind that introducing division and creating discord is entirely the point of the recent IS inspired (or Daesh, a term I prefer) attacks, both in the UK and across Europe. Those twits who ran amok in Borough Market on Saturday night? The idiot who blew children up in Manchester? Lambaste them for all you are worth. Over-generalise and you just play into the hands of the nihilists misanthropic religious extremists. Anyway, back to what we should be talking about - the crisis in social care, NHS funding, Brexit, whether Abbott can count or McDonnell is a Marxist, the death / resurrection of UKIP, money trees and "strong and stable" or "weak and wobbly" et cetera. Because allowing those idiots to influence the political debate again, unfortunately, plays to their agenda. About the only thing I agree with Trump on is that they are losers. Nothing more, nothing less.“whether Abbott can count” newsthump.com/2017/05/05/labour-wins-huge-majority-in-local-elections-after-diane-abbott-counts-the-votes/"McDonnell a Marxist?" www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/john-mcdonnell-marxism-andrew-marr_uk_590ef88ae4b0104c734f8caf"the death / resurrection of UKIP" p2pindependentforum.com/post/193269"money trees" www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/06/john-bald-labours-land-value-tax-is-a-real-and-present-menace-to-every-homeowner.html
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 6, 2017 17:22:21 GMT
“Political uncertainty” is something of a euphemism.
“The bowel loosening terror felt by politicians when they realise the people may vote against them” is probably closer to the mark.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 6, 2017 17:59:15 GMT
I have reached the conclusion that Labour central committee do not want to win this election. What a lousy way to run a campaign. I'm not sure which party's trying hardest to lose, tbh, but they're all giving it a bloody good try.
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Post by pickles on Jun 6, 2017 20:05:39 GMT
I have reached the conclusion that Labour central committee do not want to win this election. What a lousy way to run a campaign. I'm not sure which party's trying hardest to lose, tbh, but they're all giving it a bloody good try. Who in their right mind would want to win it? They will have to preside over the biggest, most expensive, shambles of any government (and there's plenty of competition for that title) with brexit. Any possible benefits won't be seen until well after the next election or even the one after that.
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Post by martin44 on Jun 6, 2017 21:24:59 GMT
I'm not sure which party's trying hardest to lose, tbh, but they're all giving it a bloody good try. They will have to preside over the biggest, most expensive, shambles of any government (and there's plenty of competition for that title) with brexit. Any possible benefits won't be seen until well after the next election or even the one after that. My bold... I think Theresa may is deadly serious about winning this general election, she is without doubt the only legitimate candidate to see us through a Brit positive brexit ( and i hope she does win) Indeed the benefits may not be seen for some years.... But.... If she does get it right, then the spoils will be the Tories for the next 15/20 years. From where i am sat now, i have no idea if this will be a good thing or a bad thing, but Theresa may will get my vote on Thursday.
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Post by pikestaff on Jun 7, 2017 7:27:50 GMT
Who in their right mind would want to win it? They will have to preside over the biggest, most expensive, shambles of any government (and there's plenty of competition for that title) with brexit. Any possible benefits won't be seen until well after the next election or even the one after that. My bold... I think Theresa may is deadly serious about winning this general election, she is without doubt the only legitimate candidate to see us through a Brit positive brexit ( and i hope she does win) Indeed the benefits may not be seen for some years.... But.... If she does get it right, then the spoils will be the Tories for the next 15/20 years. From where i am sat now, i have no idea if this will be a good thing or a bad thing, but Theresa may will get my vote on Thursday. That of course depends on your perspective. I think she's been an utter disaster so far, just as she was as Home Secretary, mainly because of her obsession with immigration. We are liable to end up with a very hard brexit as a result. I expect that to be very bad news for the country, and for the Tories once the electorate wake up to the costs. So bad that it might make the likes of Corbyn electable, which is terrifying.
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Post by chielamangus on Jun 7, 2017 9:02:50 GMT
Who in their right mind would want to win it? They will have to preside over the biggest, most expensive, shambles of any government (and there's plenty of competition for that title) with brexit. Any possible benefits won't be seen until well after the next election or even the one after that. Sorry to disappoint you, pickles, but I have already had a Brexit benefit - an enormous uplift in my spirit since the Referendum result. Presumably you mean economic benefit. Well, no one expects a smooth ride. For me Brexit is an investment (what some of us do here) with longer term returns. And in the meantime I am happier. Win-win, even if my material standard of living drops in the short term. However, I understand that people like you see it as lose-lose. Some people think their well-being always depends on others and not on their own efforts and approach to life.
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Post by yorkshireman on Jun 7, 2017 9:08:56 GMT
My bold... I think Theresa may is deadly serious about winning this general election, she is without doubt the only legitimate candidate to see us through a Brit positive brexit ( and i hope she does win) Indeed the benefits may not be seen for some years.... But.... If she does get it right, then the spoils will be the Tories for the next 15/20 years. From where i am sat now, i have no idea if this will be a good thing or a bad thing, but Theresa may will get my vote on Thursday. her obsession with immigration. Could this be the result if someone doesn’t get a grip on immigration and political correctness in the UK, never mind the Netherlands? www.politico.eu/article/ayaan-hirsi-ali-tackle-islam-or-face-civil-war/
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Post by r1200gs on Jun 7, 2017 10:55:42 GMT
Well, being black, female and "right on" never saved Dianne, even if I'm pretty sure that's what got her the job of shadow home secretary in the first place. Now replaced by Lyn Brown. The fact she was appointed in the first place should trouble any potential voter.
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Post by Steerpike on Jun 7, 2017 11:03:55 GMT
JC has been trying to work miracles with 3rd tier MPs in the Shadow Cabinet because most of the big beasts galloped away to wait for YC or DM to launch a coup.
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