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Post by jjc on May 4, 2017 16:12:22 GMT
Opportunity chucked into the wind there by MLP. Shoddy performance you can only assume was a badly advised attempt to attract Melenchon voters & scare everyone else off (ie she doesn’t really want to govern) that surely paves the way now for the jeune whizz-kid. Won’t be plain sailing with him having to fight the established parties in the legislatives in June, & this could turn out to be a poisoned chalice, but Brussels & co will (for now) be breathing a sigh of relief. Looking glass half-full a disorderly breakup of the EU looks far less likely now, & with those across the table from May having one (big) thing less to worry about perhaps it will help our discussions. Though I suspect there will be more than one more bad dinner everyone will have to digest before we get there (for those that missed it this is the account that initially stirred things up last week): www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/theresa-may-jean-claude-juncker-and-the-disastrous-brexit-dinner-14998803.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2 |
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Post by mrclondon on May 6, 2017 18:27:59 GMT
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Post by yorkshireman on May 7, 2017 14:19:08 GMT
Interesting to see that the percentage of votes for UKIP in this poll has increased, despite the council election results suggesting the opposite.
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on May 7, 2017 18:21:02 GMT
Er, yes but I would assume that the way someone votes in a general election indicates which party they want to form a government therefore a vote for Labour must be a vote for Abbott albeit indirectly. Not necessarily a safe assumption. I believe many people vote for the MP they want. Additionally, people may be motivated to limit a potentially thumping majority, because whilst it can be great for those on the winning side, it can make things very unpleasant for those whose lives will get adversely affected by essentially unfettered control. In this election it is likely that a person could vote for a Labour MP knowing very well that there isn't going to be a Labour government. Regarding the specifics of this particular assumption, I also could imagine that a great many labour supporters and probably party members might intensely dislike the woman in question. In fact, could any of us really ever cast a vote for any candidate if we had to limit ourselves to those belonging to a party where there wasn't a single minister/shadow minister that we disliked?
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jonno
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Post by jonno on May 8, 2017 10:27:28 GMT
Here's an instruction apparently issued secretly by Mrs May : "Oi Agent Abbott; reign it in a bit will yer or people might start to get suspicious"  |
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Post by adrianc on May 16, 2017 11:31:34 GMT
Here's a question that's actually relatively on-topic for this forum...  Labour's manifesto promises a "National Investment Bank", delivering private capital to small businesses... Sound vaguely familiar? Yeh, that's what I thought. So what IS the difference to the British Business Bank...? |
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on May 16, 2017 11:59:24 GMT
"Labour will transform how our financial system operates."Oh, they'll transform it alright. Into a bigger omnishambles than it already is. "Labour" and "Finance", the two really go together comfortably and efficiently don't they. 
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Post by yorkshireman on May 16, 2017 17:26:00 GMT
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Post by nush on May 16, 2017 18:04:18 GMT
tory promises when they came into power and the reality
We will balance the books by 2015
THE TRUTH: Britain still has a budget deficit of £90billion
We will pay down Britain’s debts
THE TRUTH: George Osborne has borrowed over £500billion in five years - more than Labour did in 13
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Post by nush on May 16, 2017 18:07:21 GMT
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on May 17, 2017 9:23:55 GMT
tory promises when they came into power and the reality We will balance the books by 2015 THE TRUTH: Britain still has a budget deficit of £90billion We will pay down Britain’s debts THE TRUTH: George Osborne has borrowed over £500billion in five years - more than Labour did in 13 Umm, where's that £90bn deficit figure coming from? It's actually around £14bn for the FY ending March 17. It hasn't been £90bn since about 2011/2. It's now back to mid-noughties, pre-crash levels. And, yes, if there's a deficit, the debt does continue to increase. Because the gov't is still spending more than is coming in. Which is why bringing the deficit down - ideally to surplus - is generally perceived as A Good Thing. It's like continually spending more than you earn, then wondering why your credit card bill and overdraft aren't going down... Historical deficits up until a few years ago 
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Post by nush on May 17, 2017 9:47:00 GMT
i thought the info came from the second post i made but if it did i cannot find it now.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on May 17, 2017 9:51:40 GMT
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ozboy
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Post by ozboy on May 17, 2017 11:03:09 GMT
A picture paints a thousand words ....................................................
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Post by Steerpike on May 17, 2017 11:11:49 GMT
For the first 5 years of his reign didn't George Brown maintain the policies of his conservative predecessor?
Probably one would need a more sophisticated instrument than the simple blue and red graph to relate the behaviour of the economy and level of borrowing to the policies of a particular chancellor.
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