rxdav
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 15:47:16 GMT
Correct oik - but if you read what I wrote I said it could be found on Trott's blog (and others actually) - not that he wrote it.
You really must pay closer attention to what is actually being written - not what you think is being written - often two different things (as we have just seen)!!
Have a great day.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhMdT_C-vQ
Ah I see, you called it "a straight cut and paste from Dave Trott's Blog" knowing that it could have been cut and pasted from the original source or a zillion other places like Trotty's just to confuse us. You're way too sharp for me dav but I expect you already knew that. You might think that - I couldn't possibly comment!
Have a great day.
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Post by stevio on Feb 7, 2019 15:56:11 GMT
Actually, despite previous moderator cleanup, it seems that the thread is determined to descend into personal insults, pointless point-scoring, and off-topic rambling. Before various people get to take an enforced break, perhaps it would be good to go revisit the forum rule about postings being 'polite and constructive', or words to that effect.
I am in this loan Yes, it is late (and has been extended) HOWEVER it is still paying interest last time I looked (which puts it streets ahead of many others)
It would be nice if there was a 'sell out' option for people who can't hang around for the grand finale, but maybe variable SM pricing will fix that (I'd buy some more, but not at 100%). Next time you see a large development loan, in Liverpool in particular perhaps (or Hull, or .. ), you'll know it probably won't run to schedule. This should not be a surprise though .. ask FC, LY, FS, AC etc. As far as I can tell only about 10% of such loans are hiccup-free, and 25%+ are complete disasters (due to lack of 'skin in the game' by the borrowers).
MODS - something needs to be done about this thread - Please just ban them and put us and them out of their misery!
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 16:05:42 GMT
Actually, despite previous moderator cleanup, it seems that the thread is determined to descend into personal insults, pointless point-scoring, and off-topic rambling. Before various people get to take an enforced break, perhaps it would be good to go revisit the forum rule about postings being 'polite and constructive', or words to that effect.
I am in this loan Yes, it is late (and has been extended) HOWEVER it is still paying interest last time I looked (which puts it streets ahead of many others)
It would be nice if there was a 'sell out' option for people who can't hang around for the grand finale, but maybe variable SM pricing will fix that (I'd buy some more, but not at 100%). Next time you see a large development loan, in Liverpool in particular perhaps (or Hull, or .. ), you'll know it probably won't run to schedule. This should not be a surprise though .. ask FC, LY, FS, AC etc. As far as I can tell only about 10% of such loans are hiccup-free, and 25%+ are complete disasters (due to lack of 'skin in the game' by the borrowers).
MODS - something needs to be done about this thread - Please just ban them and put us and them out of their misery! stevio: As I have just articulated to GSX3MIaC there is no compulsion on you to read or respond to any individual comment in this thread - it is totally your choice to do so or not.
P.S. It would be nice if you had something useful to contribute to this thread - since I must assume you have an interest in its content to be here in the first place?
Have a great day.
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Post by boundah on Feb 7, 2019 16:09:38 GMT
I have to say I've tried to desist from reading this thread recently, even though I'm in the loan. It just makes me laugh/cry/shout at the screen every time I read the banal ramblings (mea culpa: I did lower myself to participe once, much to my shame).
Just a thought I'll put out there: can't we get back to some nice pithy analysis / observations / opinions about the Res Dev in Liverpool?
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 16:16:05 GMT
I have to say I've tried to desist from reading this thread recently, even though I'm in the loan. It just makes me laugh/cry/shout at the screen every time I read the banal ramblings (mea culpa: I did lower myself to participe once, much to my shame). Just a thought I'll put out there: can't we get back to some nice pithy analysis / observations / opinions about the Res Dev in Liverpool? With you 100% of the way there boundah with regard to your comments about moving forward. Furthermore, the past is the past and I don't hold grudges.
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Feb 7, 2019 17:20:42 GMT
/mod hat on
Actually, for those who haven't found it yet, this forum does have a filter facility. Just select/click the member you don't want, drop down the cog icon, and 'block member' .. I assume that is available to mere mortals, as well as admin staff ...
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Post by ali on Feb 7, 2019 17:24:20 GMT
/mod hat on
Actually, for those who haven't found it yet, this forum does have a filter facility. Just select/click the member you don't want, drop down the cog icon, and 'block member' .. I assume that is available to mere mortals, as well as admin staff ...
It certainly is and a much better solution (IMHO) to banning people.
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Post by stevio on Feb 7, 2019 18:01:23 GMT
/mod hat on
Actually, for those who haven't found it yet, this forum does have a filter facility. Just select/click the member you don't want, drop down the cog icon, and 'block member' .. I assume that is available to mere mortals, as well as admin staff ...
It certainly is and a much better solution (IMHO) to banning people. A lot of people bookmark threads so they stay up to date with latest information I doubt the above stops the update firing for quite frankly the complete rubbish being posted here from people with nothing better to do than troll forums, even if you are able to hide it when you get here
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Post by ali on Feb 7, 2019 18:15:18 GMT
It certainly is and a much better solution (IMHO) to banning people. A lot of people bookmark threads so they stay up to date with latest information I doubt the above stops the update firing for quite frankly the complete rubbish being posted here from people with nothing better to do than troll forums, even if you are able to hide it when you get here True. I still get emails telling me that somebody I don't care to read has commented. It's not ideal and I'd certainly be delighted if ProBoards improved their implementation. However, I still maintain that banning people for annoying me is the wrong approach. It just creates bad feeling, is open to abuse and is prone to giving the perception that people have been treated unfairly.
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 19:25:38 GMT
It certainly is and a much better solution (IMHO) to banning people. A lot of people bookmark threads so they stay up to date with latest information I doubt the above stops the update firing for quite frankly the complete rubbish being posted here from people with nothing better to do than troll forums, even if you are able to hide it when you get here Sorry stevio - but I get the developing impression you're going to find yourself in a bit of a minority here?
Just one question - that reference you made about folks who allegedly have nothing better to do than troll forums - does that concept also apply to the same folks who allegedly have nothing better to do than read them?
Have a great evening. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhMdT_C-vQ
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 19:30:09 GMT
A lot of people bookmark threads so they stay up to date with latest information I doubt the above stops the update firing for quite frankly the complete rubbish being posted here from people with nothing better to do than troll forums, even if you are able to hide it when you get here True. I still get emails telling me that somebody I don't care to read has commented. It's not ideal and I'd certainly be delighted if ProBoards improved their implementation. However, I still maintain that banning people for annoying me is the wrong approach. It just creates bad feeling, is open to abuse and is prone to giving the perception that people have been treated unfairly. With you all the away ali - a much more professional and fairer way to proceed henceforth I suggest;
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Post by rxdav on Feb 7, 2019 19:34:17 GMT
/mod hat on
Actually, for those who haven't found it yet, this forum does have a filter facility. Just select/click the member you don't want, drop down the cog icon, and 'block member' .. I assume that is available to mere mortals, as well as admin staff ...
GSV3MIac: Well we live and we learn - I said you had been around quite a while - just needed an expert to look at the available functionality and put us 'mere mortals' straight.
Many thanks - and have a cracking evening.
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Post by stevio on Feb 7, 2019 20:27:30 GMT
A lot of people bookmark threads so they stay up to date with latest information I doubt the above stops the update firing for quite frankly the complete rubbish being posted here from people with nothing better to do than troll forums, even if you are able to hide it when you get here Sorry stevio - but I get the developing impression you're going to find yourself in a bit of a minority here?
Just one question - that reference you made about folks who allegedly have nothing better to do than troll forums - does that concept also apply to the same folks who allegedly have nothing better to do than read them?
Have a great evening. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhMdT_C-vQ
Deluded troll continues and Mods do nothing then
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Feb 7, 2019 20:34:21 GMT
Actually we do lots. What we don't generally do is requote stuff we object to, in order to add a line. That, of course, bypasses the 'block member' effect, unless everyone blocks the quoter as well. If you think someone is a troll, STOP FEEDING THEM.
Because someone objects to the handling of this loan, that doesn't make them a troll, just someone you/I don't, in this instance, happen to agree with.
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Post by cedarcourtcapital on Feb 7, 2019 21:46:16 GMT
Because someone objects to the handling of this loan, that doesn't make them a troll, just someone you/I don't, in this instance, happen to agree with.
I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion and to express it. However the sheer volume of the posts suggests one author is enjoying the uproar which is taking place, and in my opinion what is occurring merits some Mod action. I believe previously a Mod used the phrase 'the goading of others'. So I believe 'trolling' is the appropriate term. What I believe, and I am not trying to speak for others, is the fact that the person accused of 'trolling' in this case seems to want to pick 'fights', or at least insult anyone who responds to their posts, and certainly seems to be revelling in the isolation of their opinions. This forum serves many purposes, it often helps some to 'vent' their frustrations and in most cases readers see this and move on. In this case the sheer volume of the 'venting' posts, and their personal comments about intelligence or motivations have upset or maybe annoyed is a better characterisation, other posters.
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